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Bananiot, has learned from his Biology studies that he must adopt to change and survive, thus his proposals to gift parts of Cyprus to the enemy… only problem is he’ll run out of land pretty soon so let’s hope he can adopt to marine life even faster!

If only you were all like Banaiot you could have a unitary state with proportional representation with my blessing.

If only we were all like Bananiot, you’d be a happy Hodja!

But me no want Hodja in Cyprus!

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Bananiot, has learned from his Biology studies that he must adopt to change and survive, thus his proposals to gift parts of Cyprus to the enemy… only problem is he’ll run out of land pretty soon so let’s hope he can adopt to marine life even faster!

If only you were all like Banaiot you could have a unitary state with proportional representation with my blessing.

If only we were all like Bananiot, you’d be a happy Hodja!

But me no want Hodja in Cyprus!

GR have you really grasped what I am saying?

[Kikapu]

Please answerthe following question honestly if you can and without deviating from the point, can the GC take the 1 seat necessary to gain total power in the upper house whether the north state is 18% or 29%...yes or no will do.

Not under the points I made above in my quote for sure, even though there was very little chance they could have taken a seat away even without that provisions I gave above IF the north were to give back 50% of the land back to the GCs to become part of the south state taking with it most of the GC refugees with it. At 29% north state with the potential 100,000 GCs and 150,000 TCs, then you are starting to push your luck a lot if the above provisions are not in place and I can’t imagine the GCs would give you that derogations if you want to keep their land, so don't take the risk and return the GC land and the refugees to become part of the south state. The other way of course is, that a GC can take a seat from the upper house by a GC living in the north state by if enough TCs and GCs vote for a GC candidate over a TC candidate. If that were to happen, most definitely. So what are you going to do, violate the TCs democratic rights to prevent them from voting for a nice GC candidate, say like Bananiot you all speak so nicely about. How will you stop the TCs from voting for a GC if he/she is well liked as you all claim to like Bananiot where you would not mind if all GCs were like him. So the answer is yes, that a GC can take that seat if the TCs help the GCs in voting for one.

So lets assume a GC has been voted in one of the 5 seats allocated for the north state, so what. Is the world going to cave in.? I have asked you several times what the worse could happen to the TCs if that were to happen, and you biggest concern was perhaps the GCs will use their power in the Federal level to shut down the Whorehouses and the Casinos in the north.!

No VP, even if the worse case scenario were to happen as you want to believe, your Whorehouses and the Casinos will be safe, because it will be a state matter and not a Federal matter as long as the constitution allows it, so put it in the constitution that states are allowed to make such decisions. Don't forget, 99% of the laws that will govern each state are made by the states themselves. All you need to worry about is how to keep the north a majority TC, that's all. All decisions made at the Federal level will effect all Cypriots equally.

Now that I have answered your question, tell me what you think of the provisions I have wrote in my quote above. Does this not take care off all your concerns. An honest answer please without deviating from my question will be appreciated.

Thank you for proving my point that there is a posibility that GCs will exploit the camaflouged flaw in your plan and take control over the whole island, that why your plan, the rest of the above post is hot air.

Can you list those provisions one be one rather than place them in a barrage of words which mean nothing.

Man, you have no shame, then again, what Fascist does.! The only thing you have proved again, is that you are a NeoPartitionist at all cost and unless the north is given to you to become a Turkish only state so that you can have a partition, you will never have a settlement. It's OK, because Turkey will take care of everything when the time comes for her to join the EU when ever that may be, and when that time comes, against your wishes of course, the remaining True TCs will not even have a state in the north but truly become a minority in a GC state and people like you who are unreasonable to reach a Fair and Just settlement today will be the reason for Cyprus becoming a "Greek" island.!

If you are going to be dishonest, VP, at least do it in the middle of the night when no one is watching in what you did by taking only part of a sentence to make propaganda with it.!

Here is the full sentence.

Not under the points I made above in my quote for sure, even though there was very little chance they could have taken a seat away even without that provisions I gave above IF the north were to give back 50% of the land back to the GCs to become part of the south state taking with it most of the GC refugees with it.

I know your comprehension of the English language is limited, VP, but what the above sentence says is, "NO, the GCs would not get that seat in the upper house even if the provisions I put in there were not there if 50% of the north were to be returned." I'm happy to have clarified them for you......again!

As for what the provisions I wrote before, this is what it means. It is very simple, that once 50% of the north is returned to be part of the south state leaving only few thousand GCs there against 150,000+ TCs, there can be an agreement that the GC population only grows in the north at the same rate as the TC's population. If at 2% growth meaning 3,600 more TCs in the north, then 3,600 more GCs can move to the north state for that year. This way the TCs will always have 150,000 more TCs in the north than the GCs all awhile everyone has their Democratic and Human Rights, because once most of the GCs move to the south with their land, they will not want to move to the north to live with you, therefore you will have the majority in the north as well as the upper house 5 seats. I’m allowing you this one derogations that solves all the problems without really violating anyone’s rights in reality, but only hypothetically. If anything, TCs will want to move to the south more than GCs wanting to move to the north. Now do you get it.?

Now VP, why did you not respond to the rest of my post.? Your lame excuses are exposed with this plan, VP, is the reason why you have no arguments at all. You have been once again exposed by me as to what your real intensions are. Partition with all the land in the north with a AP like plan. Do you deny this by any chance.??

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Kikapu

Man, you have no shame, then again, what Fascist does.! The only thing you have proved again, is that you are a NeoPartitionist at all cost and unless the north is given to you to become a Turkish only state so that you can have a partition, you will never have a settlement. It's OK, because Turkey will take care of everything when the time comes for her to join the EU when ever that may be, and when that time comes, against your wishes of course, the remaining True TCs will not even have a state in the north but truly become a minority in a GC state and people like you who are unreasonable to reach a Fair and Just settlement today will be the reason for Cyprus becoming a "Greek" island.!

If you are going to be dishonest, VP, at least do it in the middle of the night when no one is watching in what you did by taking only part of a sentence to make propaganda with it.!

Is all the above shit really necessary, you have yet again rverted to attacking the person rather than their arguements, you have been through this before and I can respond in just no even worse degrading manner if you wish, do you want to go down that street once again? you must be a GC you never learn.

You still refrain from stating the obvious which makes you the real liar, GCs if they wish can take the 1 seat necessary even if we reduce the size of the North state to 29% 20% 15%....is it possible???

Please tell everyone the truth as they can see rigth through the flawed plan you are trying to peddle.

I know your comprehension of the English language is limited, VP, but what the above sentence says is, "NO, the GCs would not get that seat in the upper house even if the provisions I put in there were not there if 50% of the north were to be returned." I'm happy to have clarified them for you......again!

As for what the provisions I wrote before, this is what it means. It is very simple, that once 50% of the north is returned to be part of the south state leaving only few thousand GCs there against 150,000+ TCs, there can be an agreement that the GC population only grows in the north at the same rate as the TC's population. If at 2% growth meaning 3,600 more TCs in the north, then 3,600 more GCs can move to the north state for that year. This way the TCs will always have 150,000 more TCs in the north than the GCs all awhile everyone has their Democratic and Human Rights, because once most of the GCs move to the south with their land, they will not want to move to the north to live with you, therefore you will have the majority in the north as well as the upper house 5 seats. I’m allowing you this one derogations that solves all the problems without really violating anyone’s rights in reality, but only hypothetically. If anything, TCs will want to move to the south more than GCs wanting to move to the north. Now do you get it.?

Now lets blow this little theory out of the water, so what you are in fact saying is make your state so small that there will be no GCs left to return in fact no one will want to return and live under a TC administration, am I right?

Lets say the GCs want to take control and we live under a true democracy and human rights where people can buy and settle where ever they wish, is it possible for GCs to buy property in the North state? with its reduced size would they have to buy a lot of land and settle to make a difference? with a numerical advantage and the wealth be it individual or religious sources, could they buy out the TCs, could the TCs pass laws to stop sales to Gcs? NO we would have noway of stopping the influx of GCs who within a very short time frame could take the 1 seat necessary to swing the power and control of the whole island in their favor. You are trying to fuck us over mr thats why you plan is flawed and would never be accepted to stick it where the sun dont shine.

Now VP, why did you not respond to the rest of my post.? Your lame excuses are exposed with this plan, VP, is the reason why you have no arguments at all. You have been once again exposed by me as to what your real intensions are. Partition with all the land in the north with a AP like plan. Do you deny this by any chance.??

The majority of your posts are just hot air nothing more, a barrage of words to conceal the venomous Turk and TC hating mentality you posses, you make things up as you go along and then the twisted part is you believe your own shit and expect pthers to do the same, you will continue to be the reason why we will never unite and the GCs may thing you are on their side by your arse licking tactics but what they dont realize is that it is the Kikapu mentality that will seal division forever...keep up the good work Kikapu.

[Expatkiwi]

The majority of your posts are just hot air nothing more, a barrage of words to conceal the venomous Turk and TC hating mentality you posses, you make things up as you go along and then the twisted part is you believe your own shit and expect pthers to do the same, you will continue to be the reason why we will never unite and the GCs may thing you are on their side by your arse licking tactics but what they dont realize is that it is the Kikapu mentality that will seal division forever...keep up the good work Kikapu.

Don't forget his disdain of anyone supporting the TC position, Viwepoint. Piratis doesn't like me either, but at least he does try to be rather more logical in his replies.

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The majority of your posts are just hot air nothing more, a barrage of words to conceal the venomous Turk and TC hating mentality you posses, you make things up as you go along and then the twisted part is you believe your own shit and expect pthers to do the same, you will continue to be the reason why we will never unite and the GCs may thing you are on their side by your arse licking tactics but what they dont realize is that it is the Kikapu mentality that will seal division forever...keep up the good work Kikapu.

Don't forget his disdain of anyone supporting the TC position, Viwepoint. Piratis doesn't like me either, but at least he does try to be rather more logical in his replies.

At least Piratis has some line of thought Kikapu makes up all this crap then turns around and thinks it s the god given truth, this is not healthy and he should seek medical help real soon. His hate and despise for TCs is very dangerous I just cannot give any reason for his approach, if he was a TC he would have at least a few things where he would admit that Gcs are wrong and that we are right but not one not even anything real simple....makes you question his real intentions.

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The majority of your posts are just hot air nothing more, a barrage of words to conceal the venomous Turk and TC hating mentality you posses, you make things up as you go along and then the twisted part is you believe your own shit and expect pthers to do the same, you will continue to be the reason why we will never unite and the GCs may thing you are on their side by your arse licking tactics but what they dont realize is that it is the Kikapu mentality that will seal division forever...keep up the good work Kikapu.

Don't forget his disdain of anyone supporting the TC position, Viwepoint. Piratis doesn't like me either, but at least he does try to be rather more logical in his replies.

At least Piratis has some line of thought Kikapu makes up all this crap then turns around and thinks it s the god given truth, this is not healthy and he should seek medical help real soon. His hate and despise for TCs is very dangerous I just cannot give any reason for his approach, if he was a TC he would have at least a few things where he would admit that Gcs are wrong and that we are right but not one not even anything real simple....makes you question his real intentions.

This is absolute bollocks, you don't like him because he won't submit to your facsist ways and wants a solution thats fair. Far from you to agree to something like that..

Bana pretends to be a GC, but you just love him because he sings your tune in tempo with you.

As for the Kiwi wanker, no one likes him full stop, don't even understand why he bothers, jeez the pay from Unckie Dontosh must be good, next he'll be writing a F book about it. Dean go draw some F cartoons and leave Cyprus to the Cypriots FFS.

Kikapu is a real TC, shame there are not many more like him.

[Piratis]

VP, the problem is that you want to make a third of the territory of Cyprus Turkish. The whole of Cyprus for 1000s of years had a Greek Cypriot majority but now you want to change this by means of ethnic cleansing and importation of Turkish Settlers.

Do you expect us to accept such thing? A TC state of any kind could only be considered by us if you drop your demands to the proportional 18%, and even then it will still a big compromise from our side.

And just to answer your usual question "But why just 18%. Why not 29%, 50% or 90%" The answer is that GCs are recognized as the majority over the 100% of Cyprus, and they are not obligated to grand to you even 0.1% as a separate state. We are trying to be reasonable by saying 18%, but if you say "Why not 29%?", then we can similarly say "Why not 9%?". The same goes for the coastline.

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The majority of your posts are just hot air nothing more, a barrage of words to conceal the venomous Turk and TC hating mentality you posses, you make things up as you go along and then the twisted part is you believe your own shit and expect pthers to do the same, you will continue to be the reason why we will never unite and the GCs may thing you are on their side by your arse licking tactics but what they dont realize is that it is the Kikapu mentality that will seal division forever...keep up the good work Kikapu.

Don't forget his disdain of anyone supporting the TC position, Viwepoint. Piratis doesn't like me either, but at least he does try to be rather more logical in his replies.

At least Piratis has some line of thought Kikapu makes up all this crap then turns around and thinks it s the god given truth, this is not healthy and he should seek medical help real soon. His hate and despise for TCs is very dangerous I just cannot give any reason for his approach, if he was a TC he would have at least a few things where he would admit that Gcs are wrong and that we are right but not one not even anything real simple....makes you question his real intentions.

This is absolute bollocks, you don't like him because he won't submit to your facsist ways and wants a solution thats fair. Far from you to agree to something like that..

Bana pretends to be a GC, but you just love him because he sings your tune in tempo with you.

As for the Kiwi wanker, no one likes him full stop, don't even understand why he bothers, jeez the pay from Unckie Dontosh must be good, next he'll be writing a F book about it. Dean go draw some F cartoons and leave Cyprus to the Cypriots FFS.

Kikapu is a real TC, shame there are not many more like him.

There arent anymore like him becuase he probably a GC, you can stick him up your arse as he appears to be licking it all the time and he might stop the shit coming out at the same time, hey that your mouth sorry.

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Piratis

VP, the problem is that you want to make a third of the territory of Cyprus Turkish. The whole of Cyprus for 1000s of years had a Greek Cypriot majority but now you want to change this by means of ethnic cleansing and importation of Turkish Settlers.

Where have I stated this? I support a BBF where everyone can choose where they wish to live and that a certain number of settlers are asked to leave within a specifed criteria. Where is what you claim in what I have just stated?

Do you expect us to accept such thing? A TC state of any kind could only be considered by us if you drop your demands to the proportional 18%, and even then it will still a big compromise from our side

No I do not expect such a thing but you appear to not undersand what I do ask for.

And just to answer your usual question "But why just 18%. Why not 29%, 50% or 90%" The answer is that GCs are recognized as the majority over the 100% of Cyprus, and they are not obligated to grand to you even 0.1% as a separate state. We are trying to be reasonable by saying 18%, but if you say "Why not 29%?", then we can similarly say "Why not 9%?". The same goes for the coastline.

29% is with GCs who wish to return, why do you not want us to administer 29% where people will be free to settle as they wish under a BBF?