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Postby Malapapa » Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:12 pm

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BirKibrisli wrote:The exchange between Piratis and Viewpoint illustrates once again why we are never going to find an agreed solution...Stripped down Piratis is saying "You were the aggressors in 1571 and ever since...GCs has suffered more and for longer than the TCs,so dont look for any sympathy or understanding from us.It is majority rule or nothing!"And VP is saying "You will always blame us for the original sin,will never appreciate our pain and sufering,so we cannot ever trust you...It is partition of nothing..." Never the twine shall meet!!! or whatever the saying is... :( :(


Now do you understand Bir why we cannot agree a solution the chasm is just to wide and the midset is still the same, why force a marriage when the only real structure that has brought a peaceful exsistence to this island has been the intervention of 1974....the GCs continue to prove some people were correct.


Don't shift the blame on to others when you are one of the culprits. It is individual demagogues like you, with your mindset and your vile and offensive comments about desecrated graves, who are desperate to prove some people were correct.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:19 pm

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BirKibrisli wrote:The exchange between Piratis and Viewpoint illustrates once again why we are never going to find an agreed solution...Stripped down Piratis is saying "You were the aggressors in 1571 and ever since...GCs has suffered more and for longer than the TCs,so dont look for any sympathy or understanding from us.It is majority rule or nothing!"And VP is saying "You will always blame us for the original sin,will never appreciate our pain and sufering,so we cannot ever trust you...It is partition of nothing..." Never the twine shall meet!!! or whatever the saying is... :( :(


Now do you understand Bir why we cannot agree a solution the chasm is just to wide and the midset is still the same, why force a marriage when the only real structure that has brought a peaceful exsistence to this island has been the intervention of 1974....the GCs continue to prove some people were correct.


Don't shift the blame on to others when you are one of the culprits. It is individual demagogues like you, with your mindset and your vile and offensive comments about desecrated graves, who are desperate to prove some people were correct.


You do a good enough job...you dont need my help.
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Postby Malapapa » Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:32 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:The exchange between Piratis and Viewpoint illustrates once again why we are never going to find an agreed solution...Stripped down Piratis is saying "You were the aggressors in 1571 and ever since...GCs has suffered more and for longer than the TCs,so dont look for any sympathy or understanding from us.It is majority rule or nothing!"And VP is saying "You will always blame us for the original sin,will never appreciate our pain and sufering,so we cannot ever trust you...It is partition of nothing..." Never the twine shall meet!!! or whatever the saying is... :( :(


Now do you understand Bir why we cannot agree a solution the chasm is just to wide and the midset is still the same, why force a marriage when the only real structure that has brought a peaceful exsistence to this island has been the intervention of 1974....the GCs continue to prove some people were correct.


Don't shift the blame on to others when you are one of the culprits. It is individual demagogues like you, with your mindset and your vile and offensive comments about desecrated graves, who are desperate to prove some people were correct.


You do a good enough job...you dont need my help.


Where have I done such a "good job"? Can you give me some specific examples so I can curb my behaviour going forward?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:41 pm

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Malapapa wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:The exchange between Piratis and Viewpoint illustrates once again why we are never going to find an agreed solution...Stripped down Piratis is saying "You were the aggressors in 1571 and ever since...GCs has suffered more and for longer than the TCs,so dont look for any sympathy or understanding from us.It is majority rule or nothing!"And VP is saying "You will always blame us for the original sin,will never appreciate our pain and sufering,so we cannot ever trust you...It is partition of nothing..." Never the twine shall meet!!! or whatever the saying is... :( :(


Now do you understand Bir why we cannot agree a solution the chasm is just to wide and the midset is still the same, why force a marriage when the only real structure that has brought a peaceful exsistence to this island has been the intervention of 1974....the GCs continue to prove some people were correct.


Don't shift the blame on to others when you are one of the culprits. It is individual demagogues like you, with your mindset and your vile and offensive comments about desecrated graves, who are desperate to prove some people were correct.


You do a good enough job...you dont need my help.


Where have I done such a "good job"? Can you give me some specific examples so I can curb my behaviour going forward?


Your whole mindset reveals your anti TC stance and demand that we capitulate to GC demands that we allow you a free hand to rule Cyprus as you wish and reduce us into just another minority in a Gc state.

Tell us where you feel we are right?
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Postby Malapapa » Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:57 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Your whole mindset reveals your anti TC stance and demand that we capitulate to GC demands that we allow you a free hand to rule Cyprus as you wish and reduce us into just another minority in a Gc state.


I asked for specifics and you just roll out your meaningless tried and tested pat answer.

Expatkiwi's an outside supporter of your cause. I wonder if he's impressed at your pathetic attempt to equate my mindset with a mindset which endorses the desecration of graves.
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Postby Expatkiwi » Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:16 pm

Malapapa wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Your whole mindset reveals your anti TC stance and demand that we capitulate to GC demands that we allow you a free hand to rule Cyprus as you wish and reduce us into just another minority in a Gc state.


I asked for specifics and you just roll out your meaningless tried and tested pat answer.

Expatkiwi's an outside supporter of your cause. I wonder if he's impressed at your pathetic attempt to equate my mindset with a mindset which endorses the desecration of graves.


Any descrecration of graves is something to be condemned wholeheartedly. If you are indeed supporting the grave-robbing of TPap's mortal remains, Viewpoint, then I would have to say that I would be extremely disappointed. I support the TRNC position because I believe that partition is the best solution given the past history of the island, and the historical emnity between the Greek and Turkish people. That doesn't mean that I support such excesses as grave robbing - FROM EITHER SIDE.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:19 pm

Malapapa wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Your whole mindset reveals your anti TC stance and demand that we capitulate to GC demands that we allow you a free hand to rule Cyprus as you wish and reduce us into just another minority in a Gc state.


I asked for specifics and you just roll out your meaningless tried and tested pat answer.

Expatkiwi's an outside supporter of your cause. I wonder if he's impressed at your pathetic attempt to equate my mindset with a mindset which endorses the desecration of graves.


Can you try answering my question it will reveal all and answer yours at the same time.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:21 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Your whole mindset reveals your anti TC stance and demand that we capitulate to GC demands that we allow you a free hand to rule Cyprus as you wish and reduce us into just another minority in a Gc state.


I asked for specifics and you just roll out your meaningless tried and tested pat answer.

Expatkiwi's an outside supporter of your cause. I wonder if he's impressed at your pathetic attempt to equate my mindset with a mindset which endorses the desecration of graves.


Any descrecration of graves is something to be condemned wholeheartedly. If you are indeed supporting the grave-robbing of TPap's mortal remains, Viewpoint, then I would have to say that I would be extremely disappointed. I support the TRNC position because I believe that partition is the best solution given the past history of the island, and the historical emnity between the Greek and Turkish people. That doesn't mean that I support such excesses as grave robbing - FROM EITHER SIDE.


Although the act is dispicable it couldnt of happened to a better man.
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Postby halil » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:00 pm

TALAT DESCRIBES REASON FOR GREEK CYPRIOT OBJECTION TO HOLD QUINTET SUMMIT AS IRRATIONAL

TRNC President Mehmet Ali Talat has said that he has difficulty understanding the reason cited by the Greek Cypriot Side for its rejection to hold a quintet meeting on the Cyprus Problem.

Speaking on a program on Bayrak Television first channel last night, the President said that the Greek Cypriot Side’s objections to holding such a summit were irrational.

He said that a quintet meeting which would include the two sides in Cyprus as well as the three guarantor powers, Turkey, Greece and Britain, would still be held within the framework of the UN Secretary General’s Good Offices Mission.

“Such a meeting would in no way downgrade the status of the so-called Republic of Cyprus nor would it upgrade the status of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus” he said.

The President also said that the reasons of objection cited by the Greek Cypriot Side were utter rubbish because he and the Greek Cypriot leader were not conducting the ongoing negotiations as Presidents of two states but as heads of their respective communities.

Underlining the importance of the intensified series of meetings at their private residences that will be held in January, the President said that it was necessary to achieve progress in the talks in the first months of next year so as to prevent the negotiations from being used as a propaganda material in the upcoming presidential elections.

Criticizing the Greek Cypriot leader Demetris Christofias for constantly urging him to be flexible, President Talat said what the Greek Cypriot leader really wanted, was for the Turkish Side to surrender.
“A settlement is still possible but chances for a solution are increasingly diminishing, The Greek Cypriot Side is deliberately delaying a solution and playing for time” Talat added.
Touching upon the conclusions of the EU Summit, Talat described the outcome as neutral and balanced.

He said that the reason why the EU failed to impose sanctions on Turkey was because it was pursuing the right policies.
The TRNC President also described the European Union’s decision to set a date for Turkey’s EU accession before the end of 2010 as a mistake as it would encourage the Greek Cypriot Side to drag its feet on the Cyprus Problem.
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Postby Malapapa » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:04 pm

Viewpoint wrote: Tell us where you feel we are right?

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