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[halil]

@Selam Birkibrisli .....Selam.....

Selam Halil...

When are u coming to Cyprus ? today around 11 i will have my coffee with Bananiot .... lots of Bananiots will be at coffee in Buyukhan ,we are looking forward to see u as well .

I must go for a sleep soon otherwise i can't wake up .

[Bananiot]

Absolutely nothing was imposed on us. In fact we got more than we deserved for but we did not appreciate it. Even Papadopoulos admitted this at Intercollege in 2005, when he said that the London Zurich agreements were a blessing.

I am more than fed up with people blaming everybody else for our misfortunes and then complain about the so called abuse of our human rights. Let me give you another example from our recent history. EOKA, as you know, killed more Greek Cypriots than British soldiers. From 1955 to 1960 thousands of young Greek Cypriots were forced to leave their places of birth and seek the safety of foreign lands. Many went to England, USA, Australia, Canada and South Africa in order to escape the murdering fiends who eventually brought disaster to Cyprus with their relentless push for the desirable, spreading fear and pain and silencing all voices of reason.

Birkibrisli, Samuel Johnson summed it up very nicely some two hundred years ago. "Patriotism is the last resort of scoundrels" he wrote and this still holds true here in our small island which is European by name but more backward than third world countries, in many respects. Most of those who call for implementation of human rights have the word "traitor" at the tip of their tongue and use it ad nauseam. However they have been tried and found wanting, for they discovered human rights very late in life and those who have the clout to push for the implementation of even basic human rights, do not believe that they are genuine. The best service they can do to Cyprus is to keep quite and let those that historically are not burdened by criminal acts steer a path to salvation. These people are using democracy and human rights as a smoke screen to hide their hatred for the only solution that will end the suffering of Cyprus.

See you tomorrow halil! I wish Birkibrisli would be with us.

[BirKibrisli]

Bir nice to have you back but I beg to differ with you...we complain the system sucked big time when imposed on us so the next best thing is to make sure second time around it's fixed once and for all...half way measures will lead to more problems rendering any half hearted agreement useless...

Thanks,boomers...but the question is,given what you said, would it be right to impose a solution of then TCs,democratic or otherwise,against their will???? How long will that last??? The key is in compromise...Take stock of our past troubles,learn our lessons,and find a solution which might not be the ideal,but one that most people will be happy to live with...It is the only realistic approach...

[Viewpoint]

Bir nice to have you back but I beg to differ with you...we complain the system sucked big time when imposed on us so the next best thing is to make sure second time around it's fixed once and for all...half way measures will lead to more problems rendering any half hearted agreement useless...

Thanks,boomers...but the question is,given what you said, would it be right to impose a solution of then TCs,democratic or otherwise,against their will???? How long will that last??? The key is in compromise...Take stock of our past troubles,learn our lessons,and find a solution which might not be the ideal,but one that most people will be happy to live with...It is the only realistic approach...

GCs will never learn they still think Cyprus is Greek and we should go back to Turkey.

[BirKibrisli]

@Selam Birkibrisli .....Selam.....

Selam Halil...

Welcome back, Bir. You have been gone for too long.!

You have now been grounded young man, which means you can't go anywhere for a while and that you need to stick around here.!

Good to have you back.!

Hello,dear Kikapu!

I will be around for a while,that is for sure...The length of my stay is in the hands of the Gods! Great to see you are still here and kicking!!!

[BirKibrisli]

@Selam Birkibrisli .....Selam.....

Selam Halil...

When are u coming to Cyprus ? today around 11 i will have my coffee with Bananiot .... lots of Bananiots will be at coffee in Buyukhan ,we are looking forward to see u as well .

I must go for a sleep soon otherwise i can't wake up .

How I'd love to be there at Buyukhan too,Halil...
It is probably inevitable that,fate-allowing,I will be in Cyprus sometime next year...
I will depend on you to show me all the good places to eat real Cypriot food,agreed??? And it would be a real pleasure to meet both you and Bananiot in person!..

[BirKibrisli]

Bir nice to have you back but I beg to differ with you...we complain the system sucked big time when imposed on us so the next best thing is to make sure second time around it's fixed once and for all...half way measures will lead to more problems rendering any half hearted agreement useless...

Thanks,boomers...but the question is,given what you said, would it be right to impose a solution of then TCs,democratic or otherwise,against their will???? How long will that last??? The key is in compromise...Take stock of our past troubles,learn our lessons,and find a solution which might not be the ideal,but one that most people will be happy to live with...It is the only realistic approach...

GCs will never learn they still think Cyprus is Greek and we should go back to Turkey.

Hello,VP...The solution is simple...Those who think Cyprus is Greek should go back to Greece,and those who think Cyprus is Turkish should go back to Turkey...The rest of us should be able to live in Cyprus as Cypriots,not giving a second thought to our ethnic bakgrounds...I am dreaming I know,but wouldnt that be the most fair solution???

[Viewpoint]

Bir nice to have you back but I beg to differ with you...we complain the system sucked big time when imposed on us so the next best thing is to make sure second time around it's fixed once and for all...half way measures will lead to more problems rendering any half hearted agreement useless...

Thanks,boomers...but the question is,given what you said, would it be right to impose a solution of then TCs,democratic or otherwise,against their will???? How long will that last??? The key is in compromise...Take stock of our past troubles,learn our lessons,and find a solution which might not be the ideal,but one that most people will be happy to live with...It is the only realistic approach...

GCs will never learn they still think Cyprus is Greek and we should go back to Turkey.

Hello,VP...The solution is simple...Those who think Cyprus is Greek should go back to Greece,and those who think Cyprus is Turkish should go back to Turkey...The rest of us should be able to live in Cyprus as Cypriots,not giving a second thought to our ethnic bakgrounds...I am dreaming I know,but wouldnt that be the most fair solution???

So you are happy to place your safety and future in the hands of the GCs like Piratis Kikapu Sotos Oracle and crowd?

[Expatkiwi]

Hello,VP...The solution is simple...Those who think Cyprus is Greek should go back to Greece,and those who think Cyprus is Turkish should go back to Turkey...The rest of us should be able to live in Cyprus as Cypriots,not giving a second thought to our ethnic bakgrounds...I am dreaming I know,but wouldnt that be the most fair solution???

So you are happy to place your safety and future in the hands of the GCs like Piratis Kikapu Sotos Oracle and crowd?

Viewpoint, sometimes, ideas like this need to be looked at. Out of the box thinking may be needed in order to bring the Cyprus Problem to a conclusion. BirKibrisli's suggestion is IMHO rather too idealistic, but that's probably due to my cynical outlook on the overall situation.

[Piratis]

Gosh Piratis, who is not respecting whose human rights? I think it's time to climb down the moral high grounds now for you seem to suffer from a huge dose of vertigo. I know your arguments about who started it first and so on, but, when the Americans give back America to the Red Indians and Geronimo becomes the President, I will probably have time to hear your human rights thesis on solving political issues.

Tell me even one human right that I want TCs to sacrifice as part of some "solution". I challenge you.

It is obvious who started, but that is not even the issue here. The issue of friendship is not political either.

Friendship is about equality and respect among individual people.

The human rights of the Native Americans were not respected during the colonization of America, neither where the rights of the blacks who were brought there as slaves. In the same way the Turks did not respect our rights during their rule over Cyprus, where Christians were second category people with less rights.

But today is the 21st century, not the 17th or 18th. Today all American citizens are equal and "Geronimo" has every right to participate in the elections of the country on equal terms with everybody else, and he can be elected if he receives the most votes, like Obama did.

This is why today whites, blacks and all other minorities in the USA can be real friends, because as individuals they are equal people with the same rights. If a white American insists that the blacks should continue to have less rights as it was the case several decades ago, then I can guarantee you that such a racist individual can not have a real friendship with an African American. (unless of course there are African American "Bananiots" who can consider somebody like that their friend)