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[t_henrymb]

Sorry to bother you with a question like this but I need it for a project. If anyone knows anything about the issue please give some information about it. Thank You...

[Piratis]

Apart from both being unrecognized by the UN, the two cases have absolutely nothing in common.

The "trnc" was a result of (1) Invasion of Cyprus by Turkey (2) Ethnic Cleansing of the vast majority of the native population of that territory, (3) Importation of 10s of thousands of foreign Settlers from Turkey in order to replace the native people who had been ethnically cleansed.

All of the above are criminal illegal acts that were committed against Cyprus by Turkey. None of these exists in the case of Taiwan.

This is why the UN issued the following resolution the day Turkey declared this pseudo state on the land the stole from us.

RESOLUTION 541 (1983)

Adopted by the Security Council
on 18 November 1983



The Security Council,

Having heard the statement of the Foreign Minister of the Government of the Republic of Cyprus,

Concerned at the declaration by the Turkish Cypriot authorities issued on 15 November 1983 which purports to create an independent state in northern Cyprus,

Considering that this declaration is incompatible with the 1960 Treaty concerning the establishment of the Republic of Cyprus and the 1960 Treaty of Guarantee,

Considering therefore that the attempt to create a "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus", is invalid, and will contribute to a worsening of the situation in Cyprus,

Reaffirming its resolutions 365(1974) and 367(1975),

Aware of the need for a solution of the Cyprus problem, based on the mission of good offices undertaken by the Secretary-General,

Affirming its continuing support for the United Nations Peace-Keeping Force in Cyprus,

Taking note of the Secretary-General's statement of 17 November 1983,

1. Deplores the declaration of the Turkish Cypriot authorities of the purported secession of part of the Republic of Cyprus;

2. Considers the declaration referred to above as legally invalid and calls for its withdrawal;

3. Calls for the urgent and effective implementation of its resolutions 365(1974) and 367(1975);

4. Requests the Secretary-General to pursue his mission of good offices in order to achieve the earliest possible progress towards a just and lasting settlement in Cyprus;

5. Calls upon the parties to cooperate fully with the Secretary-General in his mission of good offices;

6. Calls upon all States to respect the sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity and non-alignment of the Republic of Cyprus;

7. Calls upon all States not to recognise any Cypriot state other than the Republic of Cyprus;

8. Calls upon all States and the two communities in Cyprus to refrain from any action which might exacerbate the situation;

9. Requests the Secretary-General to keep the Security Council fully informed.

Adopted at the 2500th meeting by 13 votes to 1 against (Pakistan) with 1 abstention (Jordan).

As far as I know there is no similar resolution for Taiwan. (since it is a completely different case)

[Get Real!]

What Are the Differences between ''Taiwan'' and ''TRNC''

There’s no comparison whatsoever. Taiwan (Formosa) was just a Chinese island when communists overthrew the legitimate right-winged Chinese government in the 50s which resulted in the government fleeing to Taiwan!

The international community then isolated the new communist China for many years but the communists wouldn’t fall so eventually they started trading with them both. They’re all Chinese though…

The "TRNC" is an illegal Turkish occupation of Cypriot sovereign territory...

UN RESOLUTION 361 (1974)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr353.htm

...that Turkey attempted to legitimize in 1983 but without any success...

UN RESOLUTION 541 (1983)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

[Expatkiwi]

The "TRNC" is an illegal Turkish occupation of Cypriot sovereign territory...

Hmmm, I always thought that the TRNC was "a natural outcome of the Turkish Cypriot people's right to self determination and sovereignty"...

[Sotos]

The "TRNC" is an illegal Turkish occupation of Cypriot sovereign territory...

Hmmm, I always thought that the TRNC was "a natural outcome of the Turkish Cypriot people's right to self determination and sovereignty"...

Hmmm, I always thought that you are a liar married to some prostitute. I thought of it so it must be true. Thank you Expatwiki for confirming what I thought about you.

[Expatkiwi]

Hmmm, I always thought that you are a liar married to some prostitute. I thought of it so it must be true. Thank you Expatwiki for confirming what I thought about you.

That must have taken some time for you to come up with a response like that! Hope it didn't strain your brain too much...

[EPSILON]

Sorry to bother you with a question like this but I need it for a project. If anyone knows anything about the issue please give some information about it. Thank You...

China/Taiwan have the same population regarding Ethnicity/culture
ROC / SO CALLED TRNC HAVE ELEPHANTS AND DOGS AS CITIZENS-NO RELATION

BRGDS

[SKI-preo]

In Taiwan you can drink Rice wine and eat pork and even little doggies and kitties. I've decided to try not to be immature in my response but I cannot help it. RE koumbare Expat Kiwi ,How does the "right to self determination and sovereignty" trump the existing owners and residents rights to the peaceful enjoyment of their property as upheld in the European COurt of Human Rights in Loizidou v Turkey? You cannot be serious ! You saying if you randomly remove every baby,grandmother,dog,cat and say kiwi bird from a sovereign country then unilaterally declare that the ethnically cleansed slab to be a brand new sovereign country because the local Sunni Muslim minority does not feel like living next to the infidel Christians. What does this mean for a place like Londonistan?

[Sotos]

Hmmm, I always thought that you are a liar married to some prostitute. I thought of it so it must be true. Thank you Expatwiki for confirming what I thought about you.

That must have taken some time for you to come up with a response like that! Hope it didn't strain your brain too much...

I didn't need to strain my brain to come up with the kind of "Hmmm, I always thought that _______________ (fill in the blank)" bullshit that you write. Even a 3 year old can do that! It doesn't matter what you stupidly thought but what the facts are. If you have any facts to disprove the truth that Piratis and Get Real wrote about then give us the facts and not what you thought because people here are interested for the facts not what some ignorant foreigner thought.

[Expatkiwi]

I didn't need to strain my brain to come up with the kind of "Hmmm, I always thought that _______________ (fill in the blank)" bullshit that you write. Even a 3 year old can do that! It doesn't matter what you stupidly thought but what the facts are. If you have any facts to disprove the truth that Piratis and Get Real wrote about then give us the facts and not what you thought because people here are interested for the facts not what some ignorant foreigner thought.

RIIIGGGHHHHTTTTT!!!!! (That was sarcasm, BTW). About two thirds of the people on this forum give opinions, so I'm not exactly unique in that matter. That's the thing about public forums, Sotos: people making their opinions known.