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[Byron]

Any greek cypriot that denounces his ethnos is a fool !

As a matter of interest, who would you support if Greece were to play Cyprus in the World Cup Final?

With everyone waving Greek flags, who would know who was supporting which?

Now you are trying to confuse our Greek cousins. We can tell from their faces. The Greeks from Greece are much uglier. The GC are less ugly on account that they have more TC genes.

Greek Cypriots do not have mongel genes !

[YFred]

Any greek cypriot that denounces his ethnos is a fool !

As a matter of interest, who would you support if Greece were to play Cyprus in the World Cup Final?

With everyone waving Greek flags, who would know who was supporting which?

Now you are trying to confuse our Greek cousins. We can tell from their faces. The Greeks from Greece are much uglier. The GC are less ugly on account that they have more TC genes.

Greek Cypriots do not have mongel genes !

So how do you explain how ugly you guys? That must be the reason then?

[Byron]

If Cyprus needs Greece and Turkey isn't a bit like saying a not so well patient needs a dose of cancer !!
These two countries are the cause of Cyprus's division and the cause that a part of our island is occupied by Turkey.

Your example is not so not so good but so true, that is how immunisation works.

The moral of the story Fred is that if Turkey and Greece are taken out of the equation the Cypriot people would find a way to reunite our island . The problem here is that both from the G/C and T/C prospective many believe that Turkey or Greece is their "motherland" This is the crux of the matter.
Let us presume that the Cypriot people shared the views that Deniz and I share , as well as many many more , ie that we are Cypriots above all else and free to exercise our own faith and its traditions , Christenings , funerals weddings etc , more or less how the UK functions , do you not agree that we could then reach a solution and live peacefully together as one united nation ?

I have to admit that Im perhaps being a little selfish here , you see I have 3 gorgeous grandchildren in Cyprus , as gorgeous and as lovable as
any T/C's grandchildren, I know they are equally loved and treasured just as mine are . Now putting the lives and the future of these innocent little souls in jeopardy because some bloody fanatic wants to waive the Turkish or Greek flag , because some unsophisticated authority decides to erect a huge anti Cypriot emblem on Cyprus's mountains , because the Church continues to preach the mythology of Greece being the motherland , because the T/A has banned the T/C dialect. These adverse unhealthy , unwelcome influences ARE THE CANCER dose that I referred to.
LONG LIVE OUR BELOVED CYPRUS AND LONG MAY IT PROSPER IN PEACE AND UNITY. OUT WITH TURKEY - OUT WITH GREECE !

Any greek cypriot that denounces his ethnos is a fool !

So Mr Kalamaras , can you provide a list denunciations that make up " "ethnos denouncing" For instance would the adoption of the flag of Cyprus as against the flag of Greece or Turkey constitute a denunciation ?
Would the adoption , already in existence and recognized the world over , of our ID be considered a denunciation. I travel exclusively using my Cypriot ID , that states clearly that my nationality is Cypriot , would you consider that this act is a denunciating one.
Grow up mate , we have G/Cs , T/Cs , Armenians and Maronites as well as of late thousands of Brits , Eastern Europeans and more. We are not KALAMARADES , related to them , the G/Cs that is , is an indisputable fact just as the T/Cs are related to Turkey , but my uncles and unties are not my parents , my cousins neither .We are first and foremost Cypriots some of us , the majority I agree , are G/Cs but a very large percentage is not. What we all are , in equal percentage points is Cypriots .

MILTIADES said
but my uncles and unties are not my parents , my cousins neither

well very comprehensible, must be some private joke !!

[Get Real!]

Greek Cypriots do not have mongel genes !

Genghis Khan is legendary for macho reasons but I can’t say the same for your (imagined?) ancient ancestors…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual ... ent_Greece

[Tim Drayton]

No doubt Cyprus needs the EU (and hence also Greece), but Turkey is just coming along for the ride, uninvited, unwanted ... the gooseberry!

Piss off, Turks!

Unfortunately, Oracle, the Turkish side is a party to the problem, so their input - along with Greece - is going to be needed if any hope of a reconciliation solution can be realized.

To use a simple analogy, people from Britain started to settle in their country's North Amercian colonies with the sailing of the Mayflower in 1620. This is the origin of the English speaking population now residing in the USA. Does this historic link entitle Britain to have a say in internal US afafirs? I hardly think so.

Similarly, the Ottomans conquered Cyprus in 1570 and Turkish speaking people began to settle on the island. This is the historic origin of the Turkish speaking population of Cyprus. However, the Ottoman Empire is no more. The Treaty of Lausanne recognised the Republic of Turkey within its presnt borders; this reality became enshrined in Turkey's own milli misak, or national border, doctrine. Under the 1959/1960 agreements, Cyprus became a separate, sovereign country and Turkish speakers living within its territory became citizens of Cyprus.

It is these Turkish Cypriots who constitute the 'Turkish side' to which you refer in the negotations. How does this give the Republic of Turkey the right to intervene?

[SKI-preo]

Personally if I was allowed to return home to Kyrenia and allowed to enjoy all my democratic rights and human rights I have no problem with a small force of say 1,000 mainland Turkish troops being based in Cyprus- but there should be no input into the political affairs of Cyprus from the military of another country.

[B25]

If Cyprus needs Greece and Turkey isn't a bit like saying a not so well patient needs a dose of cancer !!
These two countries are the cause of Cyprus's division and the cause that a part of our island is occupied by Turkey.

Your example is not so not so good but so true, that is how immunisation works.

The moral of the story Fred is that if Turkey and Greece are taken out of the equation the Cypriot people would find a way to reunite our island . The problem here is that both from the G/C and T/C prospective many believe that Turkey or Greece is their "motherland" This is the crux of the matter.
Let us presume that the Cypriot people shared the views that Deniz and I share , as well as many many more , ie that we are Cypriots above all else and free to exercise our own faith and its traditions , Christenings , funerals weddings etc , more or less how the UK functions , do you not agree that we could then reach a solution and live peacefully together as one united nation ?

I have to admit that Im perhaps being a little selfish here , you see I have 3 gorgeous grandchildren in Cyprus , as gorgeous and as lovable as
any T/C's grandchildren, I know they are equally loved and treasured just as mine are . Now putting the lives and the future of these innocent little souls in jeopardy because some bloody fanatic wants to waive the Turkish or Greek flag , because some unsophisticated authority decides to erect a huge anti Cypriot emblem on Cyprus's mountains , because the Church continues to preach the mythology of Greece being the motherland , because the T/A has banned the T/C dialect. These adverse unhealthy , unwelcome influences ARE THE CANCER dose that I referred to.
LONG LIVE OUR BELOVED CYPRUS AND LONG MAY IT PROSPER IN PEACE AND UNITY. OUT WITH TURKEY - OUT WITH GREECE !

Hello Milti, good to see you in fighting spirit after your recent loss.

I would like to add at this point, why do people keep mixing Greece with Turkey on the Cyprus Issue???

Greece, as far as I am aware, has not, and is not, making any claims to Cyprus, holding us to blackmail, ethnically cleansed or murdered or raped us. Greece is a seperate country who respects Cyprus sovereignty, unlike Turkey that IS MAKING claims on our country. So if anyone wants to bash any outsiders Turkey is you target.

I'm fed up with hearing Greece, Greec, Greece, in these arguements, Greece has done nothing wrong to us (save the past), so back off. Turkey is the culprit.

Thanks and all the best.

[Get Real!]

I would like to add at this point, why do people keep mixing Greece with Turkey on the Cyprus Issue???

Greece, as far as I am aware, has not, and is not, making any claims to Cyprus, holding us to blackmail, ethnically cleansed or murdered or raped us. Greece is a seperate country who respects Cyprus sovereignty, unlike Turkey that IS MAKING claims on our country. So if anyone wants to bash any outsiders Turkey is you target.

I'm fed up with hearing Greece, Greec, Greece, in these arguements, Greece has done nothing wrong to us (save the past), so back off. Turkey is the culprit.

Turkey is responsible for the continued PHYSICAL invasion & occupation of Cyprus, whereas Greece is responsible for the continued MENTAL invasion & occupation of Cyprus.

[YFred]

I would like to add at this point, why do people keep mixing Greece with Turkey on the Cyprus Issue???

Greece, as far as I am aware, has not, and is not, making any claims to Cyprus, holding us to blackmail, ethnically cleansed or murdered or raped us. Greece is a seperate country who respects Cyprus sovereignty, unlike Turkey that IS MAKING claims on our country. So if anyone wants to bash any outsiders Turkey is you target.

I'm fed up with hearing Greece, Greec, Greece, in these arguements, Greece has done nothing wrong to us (save the past), so back off. Turkey is the culprit.

Turkey is responsible for the continued PHYSICAL invasion & occupation of Cyprus, whereas Greece is responsible for the continued MENTAL invasion & occupation of Cyprus.

Plus instigating and facilitating your first point. Let us not forget between 70 and 74. How many attempts did Greece make do to kill our beloved president? Was it 4, 5 ,6 ,7 can't remember.
You all have pleasant dreams now, because you may one day wake up to a worst nightmare than 74. Full official Partition, none of this pretend stuff.

[B25]

I would like to add at this point, why do people keep mixing Greece with Turkey on the Cyprus Issue???

Greece, as far as I am aware, has not, and is not, making any claims to Cyprus, holding us to blackmail, ethnically cleansed or murdered or raped us. Greece is a seperate country who respects Cyprus sovereignty, unlike Turkey that IS MAKING claims on our country. So if anyone wants to bash any outsiders Turkey is you target.

I'm fed up with hearing Greece, Greec, Greece, in these arguements, Greece has done nothing wrong to us (save the past), so back off. Turkey is the culprit.

Turkey is responsible for the continued PHYSICAL invasion & occupation of Cyprus, whereas Greece is responsible for the continued MENTAL invasion & occupation of Cyprus.

I agree with your first statement, your statement about Greece is rubbish and in your head alone.

Hade re esei, since when has Greece told us whats what?? Every GC I know calls them Kalamarades and not nicely, and the same for the Greeks calling us whatever.

I re-emphasize, Greece is not our problem here, Turkey is and the sooner we realise this the better.