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Cyprus needs Turkey and Greece

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby YFred » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:06 am

Tim Drayton wrote:
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Oracle wrote:No doubt Cyprus needs the EU (and hence also Greece), but Turkey is just coming along for the ride, uninvited, unwanted ... the gooseberry!

Piss off, Turks!

That's it, I had enough, my bags are packed, where shall I go next, I think I'll head for South Nicosia, I gather the give free dental care there. There There There.


Not to my knowledge.

It's all going to be paid by GR. He offered the other day. Didn't mean to mislead you. :lol: :lol: :lol:


What a generous geezer.

I am more inclined to describe him as git, however if he is also able to be used as water heating implement, all the better.
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Postby miltiades » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:18 am

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miltiades wrote:If Cyprus needs Greece and Turkey isn't a bit like saying a not so well patient needs a dose of cancer !!
These two countries are the cause of Cyprus's division and the cause that a part of our island is occupied by Turkey.

Your example is not so not so good but so true, that is how immunisation works.

The moral of the story Fred is that if Turkey and Greece are taken out of the equation the Cypriot people would find a way to reunite our island . The problem here is that both from the G/C and T/C prospective many believe that Turkey or Greece is their "motherland" This is the crux of the matter.
Let us presume that the Cypriot people shared the views that Deniz and I share , as well as many many more , ie that we are Cypriots above all else and free to exercise our own faith and its traditions , Christenings , funerals weddings etc , more or less how the UK functions , do you not agree that we could then reach a solution and live peacefully together as one united nation ?

I have to admit that Im perhaps being a little selfish here , you see I have 3 gorgeous grandchildren in Cyprus , as gorgeous and as lovable as
any T/C's grandchildren, I know they are equally loved and treasured just as mine are . Now putting the lives and the future of these innocent little souls in jeopardy because some bloody fanatic wants to waive the Turkish or Greek flag , because some unsophisticated authority decides to erect a huge anti Cypriot emblem on Cyprus's mountains , because the Church continues to preach the mythology of Greece being the motherland , because the T/A has banned the T/C dialect. These adverse unhealthy , unwelcome influences ARE THE CANCER dose that I referred to.
LONG LIVE OUR BELOVED CYPRUS AND LONG MAY IT PROSPER IN PEACE AND UNITY. OUT WITH TURKEY - OUT WITH GREECE !
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Postby Byron » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:29 am

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YFred wrote:
miltiades wrote:If Cyprus needs Greece and Turkey isn't a bit like saying a not so well patient needs a dose of cancer !!
These two countries are the cause of Cyprus's division and the cause that a part of our island is occupied by Turkey.

Your example is not so not so good but so true, that is how immunisation works.

The moral of the story Fred is that if Turkey and Greece are taken out of the equation the Cypriot people would find a way to reunite our island . The problem here is that both from the G/C and T/C prospective many believe that Turkey or Greece is their "motherland" This is the crux of the matter.
Let us presume that the Cypriot people shared the views that Deniz and I share , as well as many many more , ie that we are Cypriots above all else and free to exercise our own faith and its traditions , Christenings , funerals weddings etc , more or less how the UK functions , do you not agree that we could then reach a solution and live peacefully together as one united nation ?

I have to admit that Im perhaps being a little selfish here , you see I have 3 gorgeous grandchildren in Cyprus , as gorgeous and as lovable as
any T/C's grandchildren, I know they are equally loved and treasured just as mine are . Now putting the lives and the future of these innocent little souls in jeopardy because some bloody fanatic wants to waive the Turkish or Greek flag , because some unsophisticated authority decides to erect a huge anti Cypriot emblem on Cyprus's mountains , because the Church continues to preach the mythology of Greece being the motherland , because the T/A has banned the T/C dialect. These adverse unhealthy , unwelcome influences ARE THE CANCER dose that I referred to.
LONG LIVE OUR BELOVED CYPRUS AND LONG MAY IT PROSPER IN PEACE AND UNITY. OUT WITH TURKEY - OUT WITH GREECE !



Any greek cypriot that denounces his ethnos is a fool !
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Postby YFred » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:33 am

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miltiades wrote:If Cyprus needs Greece and Turkey isn't a bit like saying a not so well patient needs a dose of cancer !!
These two countries are the cause of Cyprus's division and the cause that a part of our island is occupied by Turkey.

Your example is not so not so good but so true, that is how immunisation works.

The moral of the story Fred is that if Turkey and Greece are taken out of the equation the Cypriot people would find a way to reunite our island . The problem here is that both from the G/C and T/C prospective many believe that Turkey or Greece is their "motherland" This is the crux of the matter.
Let us presume that the Cypriot people shared the views that Deniz and I share , as well as many many more , ie that we are Cypriots above all else and free to exercise our own faith and its traditions , Christenings , funerals weddings etc , more or less how the UK functions , do you not agree that we could then reach a solution and live peacefully together as one united nation ?

I have to admit that Im perhaps being a little selfish here , you see I have 3 gorgeous grandchildren in Cyprus , as gorgeous and as lovable as
any T/C's grandchildren, I know they are equally loved and treasured just as mine are . Now putting the lives and the future of these innocent little souls in jeopardy because some bloody fanatic wants to waive the Turkish or Greek flag , because some unsophisticated authority decides to erect a huge anti Cypriot emblem on Cyprus's mountains , because the Church continues to preach the mythology of Greece being the motherland , because the T/A has banned the T/C dialect. These adverse unhealthy , unwelcome influences ARE THE CANCER dose that I referred to.
LONG LIVE OUR BELOVED CYPRUS AND LONG MAY IT PROSPER IN PEACE AND UNITY. OUT WITH TURKEY - OUT WITH GREECE !

Milt, I agree with most of what you say, however the real question is " is Cyprus ready for this?" and so long as the extreme in the south have a free reign, unfortunately the TCs will need a bit of a guarantee. It s the extreme in the south that we need to worry about, only because there are a bigger force than the extreme in the north. Will the new roc be able to contain them or with the slightest of trouble will they be given a free hand like last time. Judging by the free hand they have on the media, I suspect the worst.
But I do agree with you in 99% of what you say.
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Postby miltiades » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:56 am

Byron wrote:
miltiades wrote:
YFred wrote:
miltiades wrote:If Cyprus needs Greece and Turkey isn't a bit like saying a not so well patient needs a dose of cancer !!
These two countries are the cause of Cyprus's division and the cause that a part of our island is occupied by Turkey.

Your example is not so not so good but so true, that is how immunisation works.

The moral of the story Fred is that if Turkey and Greece are taken out of the equation the Cypriot people would find a way to reunite our island . The problem here is that both from the G/C and T/C prospective many believe that Turkey or Greece is their "motherland" This is the crux of the matter.
Let us presume that the Cypriot people shared the views that Deniz and I share , as well as many many more , ie that we are Cypriots above all else and free to exercise our own faith and its traditions , Christenings , funerals weddings etc , more or less how the UK functions , do you not agree that we could then reach a solution and live peacefully together as one united nation ?

I have to admit that Im perhaps being a little selfish here , you see I have 3 gorgeous grandchildren in Cyprus , as gorgeous and as lovable as
any T/C's grandchildren, I know they are equally loved and treasured just as mine are . Now putting the lives and the future of these innocent little souls in jeopardy because some bloody fanatic wants to waive the Turkish or Greek flag , because some unsophisticated authority decides to erect a huge anti Cypriot emblem on Cyprus's mountains , because the Church continues to preach the mythology of Greece being the motherland , because the T/A has banned the T/C dialect. These adverse unhealthy , unwelcome influences ARE THE CANCER dose that I referred to.
LONG LIVE OUR BELOVED CYPRUS AND LONG MAY IT PROSPER IN PEACE AND UNITY. OUT WITH TURKEY - OUT WITH GREECE !



Any greek cypriot that denounces his ethnos is a fool !

So Mr Kalamaras , can you provide a list denunciations that make up " "ethnos denouncing" For instance would the adoption of the flag of Cyprus as against the flag of Greece or Turkey constitute a denunciation ?
Would the adoption , already in existence and recognized the world over , of our ID be considered a denunciation. I travel exclusively using my Cypriot ID , that states clearly that my nationality is Cypriot , would you consider that this act is a denunciating one.
Grow up mate , we have G/Cs , T/Cs , Armenians and Maronites as well as of late thousands of Brits , Eastern Europeans and more. We are not KALAMARADES , related to them , the G/Cs that is , is an indisputable fact just as the T/Cs are related to Turkey , but my uncles and unties are not my parents , my cousins neither .We are first and foremost Cypriots some of us , the majority I agree , are G/Cs but a very large percentage is not. What we all are , in equal percentage points is Cypriots .
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Postby Malapapa » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:21 am

Byron wrote:

Any greek cypriot that denounces his ethnos is a fool !


As a matter of interest, who would you support if Greece were to play Cyprus in the World Cup Final?
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Postby AWE » Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:51 pm

Malapapa wrote:
Byron wrote:

Any greek cypriot that denounces his ethnos is a fool !


As a matter of interest, who would you support if Greece were to play Cyprus in the World Cup Final?


Although not direct at me - Cyprus. and if Cyprus played Turkey the answer would also be Cyprus.
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:56 pm

Malapapa wrote:
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Any greek cypriot that denounces his ethnos is a fool !


As a matter of interest, who would you support if Greece were to play Cyprus in the World Cup Final?


With everyone waving Greek flags, who would know who was supporting which? :D
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Postby YFred » Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:24 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
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Any greek cypriot that denounces his ethnos is a fool !


As a matter of interest, who would you support if Greece were to play Cyprus in the World Cup Final?


With everyone waving Greek flags, who would know who was supporting which? :D

Now you are trying to confuse our Greek cousins. We can tell from their faces. The Greeks from Greece are much uglier. The GC are less ugly on account that they have more TC genes.

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Postby Byron » Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:39 pm

Malapapa wrote:
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Any greek cypriot that denounces his ethnos is a fool !


As a matter of interest, who would you support if Greece were to play Cyprus in the World Cup Final?


Your paradigm is off the mark !
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