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Postby magikthrill » Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:39 pm

Hey guys

i noticed downtown this time every year we get cyprus flags flying around everywhere. what day is exaclty remembered as the beginning of the invasion and occupation of cyprus?
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Postby cannedmoose » Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:49 pm

Well tomorrow is the anniversary of the coup, with July 20th the anniversary of the invasion.
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Postby magikthrill » Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:50 pm

tomorrow as in the 15th? thats already today.

i wonder if ill find any cypriots protesting downtown :lol:
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Postby cannedmoose » Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:56 pm

magikthrill wrote:tomorrow as in the 15th? thats already today.

i wonder if ill find any cypriots protesting downtown :lol:


More than possible, I don't know what happens in Cyprus on the 15th, but I'm guessing there won't be any mass protests outside the Greek embassy.

Date that's big in our family is 22nd July, which is when my wife's uncle was killed.
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Postby turkcyp » Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:20 am

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Postby cannedmoose » Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:29 am

turkcyp wrote:
cannedmoose wrote:Date that's big in our family is 22nd July, which is when my wife's uncle was killed.


If it is not too personal, (I do not want to be intruding so I understand if you ignore my dickheadedness) how was he killed? Was he soldier or civilian militia? I mean I was trying to understand if he was killed in fighting or not. Or was he a civilian? Innocent civilians die everyday as a result of the worst concept that is ever created by human beings, "war"?

Again you can completly ignore the question if you wish.


Hi TC, not too personal re. He was a conscript in the GC National Guard serving as a commander of a armoured vehicle of some sort. He apparently had about a month left to do of his service. By all accounts from some of his crew who survived, their vehicle broke down and they walked back to their base in Nicosia. Soon after they arrived, the Turkish airforce carried out a strike on the base, in which he was killed.

He was one of the 1619 declared missing until the government 'found' him a couple of years ago. He was buried on the GC side in an unmarked grave, although obviously someone knew he was there all along. When the family went through a ritual of 'cleaning his bones' (still makes me shudder how they could do this), the cause of his death was clear as he had a large hole through the top of his skull, which indicates that he was hit by a large calibre cannon round, probably fired during the strafing attack. At least he obviously died instantly.
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Postby Piratis » Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:59 am

but I'm guessing there won't be any mass protests outside the Greek embassy.


Why should they be? Do the British or French make protest outside the German embassy when they have anniversaries related with WWII?

Greece was ruled by an illegal junta at that time and the actions of that junta have been condemned by the Greek people and all the democratic greek governments that followed.
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Postby magikthrill » Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:01 am

Piratis wrote:
but I'm guessing there won't be any mass protests outside the Greek embassy.


Why should they be? Do the British or French make protest outside the German embassy when they have anniversaries related with WWII?

Greece was ruled by an illegal junta at that time and the actions of that junta have been condemned by the Greek people and all the democratic greek governments that followed.


yes but lets not forget all the free time these commies have on their hands.
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Postby cannedmoose » Fri Jul 15, 2005 8:49 am

No problem Turkcyp, it's exactly the sort of story that should come out by way of catharsis, I'm sure there are hundreds and thousands of such stories across the island.

I never knew him so for me he's just a face in a photograph, but to the family he is still a huge missing part, as would anyone be if they had died so young. Since he now has a grave and is no longer one of the missing it has allowed people to move on and have a focus for their grief rather than be unsure of what happened to him. Hence why there is still a great deal of anger that the authoritie knew where he was for 28 years and kept it to themselves.
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