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[miltiades]

Hey Milti, its good to have the 'voice of reason' back on the Forum and even better that the word 'plonker' is part of it Welcome back , if you are ever over this way when back in Cyprus come over for a coffee.

Thank you Milo , as all know my heart belongs to Cyprus , my English wife rested in Limassol also adored this island and as Lit posted in an excellent fashion above the West and Britain in particular has been and it is the home of hundreds of thousands of Cypriots , mostly G/Cs but also let us not forget our other Cypriot compatriots the T/Cs , Armenians too.

The West is by no means perfect , but on balance it is years , perhaps hundreds of years , ahead of those nations that have attracted the support of the lost souls so frequently posting on this forum pages of vitriolic attacks against the nations with whom we share so much in culture civilization and common sense.

I shall be in Cyprus Dec 24th in time to see the grandchildren , two of them anyway , opening their Xmas presents . Such joy and happiness knowing that life continues with the little ones keeping our spirits , ( wine in my case ! ) high.
Would love to share a coffee with you. I shall be visiting my village , Stroumbi , just after Xmas . Stroumbi , or rather Stroumbi the Great as I refer to , is half way between Paphos and Polis and it also happens to be a favourite of our Oracle. !! She is on record as saying that when approaching Stroumbi the anxiety and thrill overwhelm her to the point that she pushes hard on to the accelerator , cant wait to get there !!

[miltiades]

Afghanistan was used as a base of training terrorists whose only goal was the destruction of the West and civilization as we know it today.

If you're meant to be that "civilization" Miltiades, then I'm all for its destruction!

The West , as far as I'm concerned is too bloody weak and lacks a charismatic strong leader.

Yeah, they need more nuclear warheads in case they need to fire at terrorists on other planets too!

You’re as thick as two short planks…

Yes , I'M PART OF "THAT" civilization unlike a fool who has the audacity to admire and support the likes of Sadam , Bin Laden , Hamas , Al Qaeda , Taliban and every other enemy of the West and of Cyprus. You are so consumed with hatred for the West I'm surprised you have not already joined up forces with the insurgents in Afghanistan or Iraq , this way you will be doing Cyprus a favour !!
Plonker !!!

Here we have Milti...who lives in the UK like 100s of thousands of other Cypriots. Follow me now.

Hundreds of thousands of Cypriots like Milti live in the UK. We have millions of Greeks/Cypriots living in the USA. Do these Cypriots like Milti and myself not love Cyprus? I hardly agree with Milti on almost anything he says but i would never challenge his love for Cyprus. People like Milti and others in the diaspora always push for the Cypriot cause. The diaspora has never hesitated to give back blood, sweat, and money back to the island they call home. Do you understand that you f_ckin village idiots?

When you have nothing but hate, insult, and disgust for these countries...aren't you also hating and insulting your Cypriot brethren that live in these countries!? The hundreds of thousands of diaspora Cypriots that currently reside in these countries!? That study in these countries!? That work in these countries!? That support their family in these countries!?

A freakin box head and his side kick have taken it upon themselves to fill this forum with anti western rhetoric like thats going to help the Cyprus issue. Mother f-ckers, just shut the f-ck up.

Excellent post Lit , and thank you for showing so much common sense .

[denizaksulu]

And lest anybody accuse me of being an Islamic sympathizer, let me assure you I'm not.
those mud dwelling peasants were a ZERO threat to Yankee national security, and neither is Afghanistan.
Its all about Geopolitical issues.

Afghanistan was used as a base of training terrorists whose only goal was the destruction of the West and civilization as we know it today.
The West , as far as I'm concerned is too bloody weak and lacks a charismatic strong leader.
Have you any idea what contribution to civilization Afghanistan offers ?
I tell you , no schools for women , no music of any kind , no cinemas no tvs no social life . These prehistoric men must never be allowed to export their sick ideology coupled with terror to the West.

Its no wonder the Afgans detest the west so much. For the last few hundred years they suffered the attempted invasions of the British and the Soviets - and now its the Americans and their allies. Perhaps life in Afganistan would be different had the old Imperialist powers left them alone.

[miltiades]

Deniz , this is a nation that deprives its women of the very basic human rights , the right to learn to read and write.
I too would welcome the West to depart from Afghanistan permanently but will Afghanistan depart from its dedication to exporting terrorism as well of course opium ?
Somehow I think that Afghanistan will never move on , steeped in the dark ages where corruption , honour killings en-slavery of women and rampant disregard of human rights .

[denizaksulu]

Deniz , this is a nation that deprives its women of the very basic human rights , the right to learn to read and write.
I too would welcome the West to depart from Afghanistan permanently but will Afghanistan depart from its dedication to exporting terrorism as well of course opium ?
Somehow I think that Afghanistan will never move on , steeped in the dark ages where corruption , honour killings en-slavery of women and rampant disregard of human rights .

I know of all the evil doings in Afganistan. I am trying to analyse their reasoning and trying to understand their distrust at anything 'western'. What I mentioned does not help one iota. Ofcourse the rise of the Taliban did not help either.

[Me Ed]

Deniz , this is a nation that deprives its women of the very basic human rights , the right to learn to read and write.
I too would welcome the West to depart from Afghanistan permanently but will Afghanistan depart from its dedication to exporting terrorism as well of course opium ?
Somehow I think that Afghanistan will never move on , steeped in the dark ages where corruption , honour killings en-slavery of women and rampant disregard of human rights .

I know of all the evil doings in Afganistan. I am trying to analyse their reasoning and trying to understand their distrust at anything 'western'. What I mentioned does not help one iota. Ofcourse the rise of the Taliban did not help either.

It is not the Afghan people that detest the West but the Taliban that detests the west.

Given half the chance, your average Afghan would move to the west without a moments hesitation and leave Afghanistan to the Taliban that only rule through fear and intimidation.

[miltiades]

Deniz , this is a nation that deprives its women of the very basic human rights , the right to learn to read and write.
I too would welcome the West to depart from Afghanistan permanently but will Afghanistan depart from its dedication to exporting terrorism as well of course opium ?
Somehow I think that Afghanistan will never move on , steeped in the dark ages where corruption , honour killings en-slavery of women and rampant disregard of human rights .

I know of all the evil doings in Afganistan. I am trying to analyse their reasoning and trying to understand their distrust at anything 'western'. What I mentioned does not help one iota. Ofcourse the rise of the Taliban did not help either.

It is not the Afghan people that detest the West but the Taliban that detests the west.

Given half the chance, your average Afghan would move to the west without a moments hesitation and leave Afghanistan to the Taliban that only rule through fear and intimidation.

The UK is full of Afghans who must have arrived here on their own free will , naturally they wanted to be amongst the "evil" West.
Much is said about the ills of the West but the benefits far outweigh any shortcomings.
Here you are free to do as you please be it in the way you dress , the way you worship or not , follow fashion or not and of course listen to ...music !!

[Me Ed]

Deniz , this is a nation that deprives its women of the very basic human rights , the right to learn to read and write.
I too would welcome the West to depart from Afghanistan permanently but will Afghanistan depart from its dedication to exporting terrorism as well of course opium ?
Somehow I think that Afghanistan will never move on , steeped in the dark ages where corruption , honour killings en-slavery of women and rampant disregard of human rights .

I know of all the evil doings in Afganistan. I am trying to analyse their reasoning and trying to understand their distrust at anything 'western'. What I mentioned does not help one iota. Ofcourse the rise of the Taliban did not help either.

It is not the Afghan people that detest the West but the Taliban that detests the west.

Given half the chance, your average Afghan would move to the west without a moments hesitation and leave Afghanistan to the Taliban that only rule through fear and intimidation.

The UK is full of Afghans who must have arrived here on their own free will , naturally they wanted to be amongst the "evil" West.
Much is said about the ills of the West but the benefits far outweigh any shortcomings.
Here you are free to do as you please be it in the way you dress , the way you worship or not , follow fashion or not and of course listen to ...music !!

I believe this article illustrates the case in point brilliantly:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Afghan_hijackers_case

[Get Real!]

Deniz , this is a nation that deprives its women of the very basic human rights , the right to learn to read and write.

So the US/UK decided to fix that problem by killing everyone there and flattening their mud houses?

[Get Real!]

It is not the Afghan people that detest the West but the Taliban that detests the west.

I wonder how you and Miltiades derive these fantastical conclusions given that neither one of you do any serious reading except for the odd BBC/ABC biased junk report that’s thrown in your face on British TV?

Given half the chance, your average Afghan would move to the west without a moments hesitation and leave Afghanistan to the Taliban that only rule through fear and intimidation.

Would that be before or after the death & destruction the US & UK had caused?