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Large numbers of TCs visit the south during the Bayram

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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:18 pm

wyoming cowboy wrote:The economic thought that people wont shop at a north Cyprus store is rediculous...If the prices are better and the service is just as good then they will shop....i knew many Gc who go to north Nicosia to fill their gas tanks. because gas is cheaper...your argument Viewpoint misses a lot of points, Cypriots are always looking for bargains its in our blood, if there was something in the north that would save them money they would buy it that is the cypriot psychology...get it


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Postby Get Real! » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:22 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:Mikkie our restaurants are much better and brand names are much cheaper in the north but its is a GC united policy not to buy anything from the north. In my line of business I speak with many businessmen wnd believe me it is a concerted GC official line to stop trade between to the 2 sides...one GC buyer was even fined heavily by the tax office for trade done with a TC company in the north he immediately ceased his dealings...speaks volumes dont you think?

It would be a bizarre situation if on the one hand we wanted the “TRNC” dismantled and on the other kept it afloat… wouldn’t it? :?


Think of that in reverse from the TC angle, doesnt stop us shopping in the south...you people are more united in your goals.

The bloody women are the problem… they are enticed by the larger variety of all the female stuff (bags, shoes, accessories, etc), and ignorant of politics unlike men because most women are disloyal to the national cause and only care about their physical appearance!

Women always ruin the CyProb! :evil: :?
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:28 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
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denizaksulu wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:Deniz do you see the GCs doing the same in the north? thats the difference between us.


VP, I have a lot of respect for what you have to say, But do you really expect our GC friends to behave differently? They have been ethnically cleansed from the north and you expect them to behave in a different manner. If you can get angry at their behaiviour in the past, expect the same or even worse.


Deniz you cannot be to careful with GCs they are very cunning and united in making us pay...the isolation is a clear example of their real intentions...they will not shop in the north as they know it will support or economy which they pray in church every Sunday will collapse leaving us desolate surrendering to their ever whim. They are united in bycotting spending in the north or even going to the property commission thats where we differ we holdno grudges and rush south thinking things are cheaper which has been proven to be a phallacy but we TCs are not united and like to show off by say we went south to shop like its a big deal, which it is clearly not...people just do not realize they are being screwed and they are contributing to the economy of the man who wants them wiped of this island and therefore continues with actions that support the economice isolation and development of the north. You are clever enough to wor out the rest, dont be fooled by the exterior its whats inside which is more important and I personally dont find them to be genuine or balanced.


You are right, they are making us 'pay through our nose for 'stealing their heritage. The politicians have a lot to sort out then. I too do not like their 'isolationist policies, fakat 'ne ekersen onu biçersin' The GC wıll not reward you for your 'peace operation' and everything it entails.


Do you really believe we caused the peace operation on our own? the GCs have a lot to answer for and if we consider the responsiblity to be 50 50 then why should we suffer, dont forget we have lost 67% of our island and recognition which the GCs continue to milk at our loss...they are not as white as you seem to believe but the only alternative they place on the table is minority rights in a Gc state run by the majority which happens to be the GCs whos mentality has not changed one iota from the forefathers in the 1960s...frightening thought.


Ihope I am not receiving a lesson in the history of Cyprus. I am aware of the coup and the 'peace op' which ended up in an 'occupation'. As to the properties left behind, they still belong to the KOCHAN holders. Can you say the same about the GC properties. I belive in justice for all. When I read the 'Constitution' of the north, and the statement that ALL GC properties belong to the northern authorities, I felt disgusted. More so when they were dishing these properties to anyone who knocked on their door. This apart from 'eshdeger'. Then the selling off to developers. You may have your reasons (economic survival) but this is still wrong. My priciples do not stand for such behaviour. Sorry, but this is me.


Deniz is the TRNC perfect? of course not (nowhere in the world is) we have made many mistakes as well but under the GC imposed isolation how else could have things developed? The current situation is the product of both sides errors and the GCs do not realize that their own actions force us to develop in areas which are open and available to us, as we grow do you expect us just to grow on just TC land when we to have lost so much in the south. We lost recognition and all the benefits that go with that but to counter this the GCs have lost their land to balance this out today a solution is needed and I am all for refugees property rights to be restored within realistic bounderies, the problem is not property that can always be resolved the problem is the GC do not want to share power as to equal parties, they want to dominate and take control using their numerical advantgae to our disadvantaage, why do you think they knock back every propostion to strike a balance that would allow us an effective say? you have to ask yourself this as their uniformed goal is to reduce our rights down to just another minority in a GC state ruled by the majority that so conveniently for them happenn to be GCs. Is that what you want with all the dangers for the future of TCs?
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Re: Large numbers of TCs visit the south during the Bayram

Postby Kikapu » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:30 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:http://www.yeniduzen.com/detay.asp?a=14707&z=19

Yeni Düzen estimates that 10,000 Turkish Cypriots crossed over to the south on Saturday (28 November), the second day of the Bayram [religious festival].


I think these TCs are tired of eating lamb again for this Bayram, so they have gone to the south to have some pork for a change with the GCs.!

Or is it that they are "porking" with the GCs in the south.? :lol: :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:31 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Mikkie our restaurants are much better and brand names are much cheaper in the north but its is a GC united policy not to buy anything from the north. In my line of business I speak with many businessmen wnd believe me it is a concerted GC official line to stop trade between to the 2 sides...one GC buyer was even fined heavily by the tax office for trade done with a TC company in the north he immediately ceased his dealings...speaks volumes dont you think?

It would be a bizarre situation if on the one hand we wanted the “TRNC” dismantled and on the other kept it afloat… wouldn’t it? :?


Think of that in reverse from the TC angle, doesnt stop us shopping in the south...you people are more united in your goals.

The bloody women are the problem… they are enticed by the larger variety of all the female stuff (bags, shoes, accessories, etc), and ignorant of politics unlike men because most women are disloyal to the national cause and only care about their physical appearance!

Women always ruin the CyProb! :evil: :?


GR can you be so kind as to explain your national cause to wyoming cowboy??? he seems to be ignorant to the facts.
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Postby Bananiot » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:40 pm

Tim, do you see how none of those that responded to your post saw a half empty bottle rather than a half full one? They are miserable baggers, most of them!
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:42 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Mikkie our restaurants are much better and brand names are much cheaper in the north but its is a GC united policy not to buy anything from the north. In my line of business I speak with many businessmen wnd believe me it is a concerted GC official line to stop trade between to the 2 sides...one GC buyer was even fined heavily by the tax office for trade done with a TC company in the north he immediately ceased his dealings...speaks volumes dont you think?

It would be a bizarre situation if on the one hand we wanted the “TRNC” dismantled and on the other kept it afloat… wouldn’t it? :?


Think of that in reverse from the TC angle, doesnt stop us shopping in the south...you people are more united in your goals.

The bloody women are the problem… they are enticed by the larger variety of all the female stuff (bags, shoes, accessories, etc), and ignorant of politics unlike men because most women are disloyal to the national cause and only care about their physical appearance!

Women always ruin the CyProb! :evil: :?

GR can you be so kind as to explain your national cause to wyoming cowboy??? he seems to be ignorant to the facts.

My national cause is the liberation, preservation, and elevation of the RoC for all Cypriots who believe and support her, and I couldn’t care less of what Cypriot variety they are.

As for the rest of these half-baked “Greek Cypriots” on this forum, I don’t know what the hell they want so I just let them have it!
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Postby insan » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:51 pm

The nearest European country to travel... :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:52 pm

Bananiot wrote:Tim, do you see how none of those that responded to your post saw a half empty bottle rather than a half full one? They are miserable baggers, most of them!

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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:53 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Deniz do you see the GCs doing the same in the north? thats the difference between us.


VP, I have a lot of respect for what you have to say, But do you really expect our GC friends to behave differently? They have been ethnically cleansed from the north and you expect them to behave in a different manner. If you can get angry at their behaiviour in the past, expect the same or even worse.


Deniz you cannot be to careful with GCs they are very cunning and united in making us pay...the isolation is a clear example of their real intentions...they will not shop in the north as they know it will support or economy which they pray in church every Sunday will collapse leaving us desolate surrendering to their ever whim. They are united in bycotting spending in the north or even going to the property commission thats where we differ we holdno grudges and rush south thinking things are cheaper which has been proven to be a phallacy but we TCs are not united and like to show off by say we went south to shop like its a big deal, which it is clearly not...people just do not realize they are being screwed and they are contributing to the economy of the man who wants them wiped of this island and therefore continues with actions that support the economice isolation and development of the north. You are clever enough to wor out the rest, dont be fooled by the exterior its whats inside which is more important and I personally dont find them to be genuine or balanced.


You are right, they are making us 'pay through our nose for 'stealing their heritage. The politicians have a lot to sort out then. I too do not like their 'isolationist policies, fakat 'ne ekersen onu biçersin' The GC wıll not reward you for your 'peace operation' and everything it entails.


Do you really believe we caused the peace operation on our own? the GCs have a lot to answer for and if we consider the responsiblity to be 50 50 then why should we suffer, dont forget we have lost 67% of our island and recognition which the GCs continue to milk at our loss...they are not as white as you seem to believe but the only alternative they place on the table is minority rights in a Gc state run by the majority which happens to be the GCs whos mentality has not changed one iota from the forefathers in the 1960s...frightening thought.


Ihope I am not receiving a lesson in the history of Cyprus. I am aware of the coup and the 'peace op' which ended up in an 'occupation'. As to the properties left behind, they still belong to the KOCHAN holders. Can you say the same about the GC properties. I belive in justice for all. When I read the 'Constitution' of the north, and the statement that ALL GC properties belong to the northern authorities, I felt disgusted. More so when they were dishing these properties to anyone who knocked on their door. This apart from 'eshdeger'. Then the selling off to developers. You may have your reasons (economic survival) but this is still wrong. My priciples do not stand for such behaviour. Sorry, but this is me.


Deniz is the TRNC perfect? of course not (nowhere in the world is) we have made many mistakes as well but under the GC imposed isolation how else could have things developed? The current situation is the product of both sides errors and the GCs do not realize that their own actions force us to develop in areas which are open and available to us, as we grow do you expect us just to grow on just TC land when we to have lost so much in the south. We lost recognition and all the benefits that go with that but to counter this the GCs have lost their land to balance this out today a solution is needed and I am all for refugees property rights to be restored within realistic bounderies, the problem is not property that can always be resolved the problem is the GC do not want to share power as to equal parties, they want to dominate and take control using their numerical advantgae to our disadvantaage, why do you think they knock back every propostion to strike a balance that would allow us an effective say? you have to ask yourself this as their uniformed goal is to reduce our rights down to just another minority in a GC state ruled by the majority that so conveniently for them happenn to be GCs. Is that what you want with all the dangers for the future of TCs?


Recognition? What recognition. Perhaps we were recognised as a 'Federal State', but not by going the UDI way.

VP, you know what is legal and what is not, so I will not address this - yet again (by others).
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