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[wyoming cowboy]

The potatoes or oranges you grow and try to sell to us is grown from lands stolen from us...Its as simple as me stealing your car and offering to charge you for a ride..truths are truths get it.....The Gc government always called for an opening of the Green line, its Denktash and the Turkish military who kept you locked....get it...The Tc could not even sign up for internet access in the early 90's because Denktash kept it from you....and now you come back and argue that the Gc kept you isolated......man your weird....

[Viewpoint]

Duplication

[Viewpoint]

Deniz do you see the GCs doing the same in the north? thats the difference between us.

What shopping would we go to the north for? Mehmets 7-11?

Do you even know where to go for the best stores in the north? that shows how ignorant you really are.

His father in law was killed there only a couple of years ago so I hardly think he’s interested in your stores.

Two totally different issues...if he was killed in France would the same apply?

[wyoming cowboy]

Actually your logic is a frightening thought...VP you weird and scary man

Deniz do you see the GCs doing the same in the north? thats the difference between us.

VP, I have a lot of respect for what you have to say, But do you really expect our GC friends to behave differently? They have been ethnically cleansed from the north and you expect them to behave in a different manner. If you can get angry at their behaiviour in the past, expect the same or even worse.

Deniz you cannot be to careful with GCs they are very cunning and united in making us pay...the isolation is a clear example of their real intentions...they will not shop in the north as they know it will support or economy which they pray in church every Sunday will collapse leaving us desolate surrendering to their ever whim. They are united in bycotting spending in the north or even going to the property commission thats where we differ we holdno grudges and rush south thinking things are cheaper which has been proven to be a phallacy but we TCs are not united and like to show off by say we went south to shop like its a big deal, which it is clearly not...people just do not realize they are being screwed and they are contributing to the economy of the man who wants them wiped of this island and therefore continues with actions that support the economice isolation and development of the north. You are clever enough to wor out the rest, dont be fooled by the exterior its whats inside which is more important and I personally dont find them to be genuine or balanced.

You are right, they are making us 'pay through our nose for 'stealing their heritage. The politicians have a lot to sort out then. I too do not like their 'isolationist policies, fakat 'ne ekersen onu biçersin' The GC wıll not reward you for your 'peace operation' and everything it entails.

Do you really believe we caused the peace operation on our own? the GCs have a lot to answer for and if we consider the responsiblity to be 50 50 then why should we suffer, dont forget we have lost 67% of our island and recognition which the GCs continue to milk at our loss...they are not as white as you seem to believe but the only alternative they place on the table is minority rights in a Gc state run by the majority which happens to be the GCs whos mentality has not changed one iota from the forefathers in the 1960s...frightening thought.

[wyoming cowboy]

Actually i shopped many times in North Nicosia, i bought curtains at Ledra..better material and better prices....so there VP

[wyoming cowboy]

The economic thought that people wont shop at a north Cyprus store is rediculous...If the prices are better and the service is just as good then they will shop....i knew many Gc who go to north Nicosia to fill their gas tanks. because gas is cheaper...your argument Viewpoint misses a lot of points, Cypriots are always looking for bargains its in our blood, if there was something in the north that would save them money they would buy it that is the cypriot psychology...get it

[Viewpoint]

VP your racism and hate resounds in your statement. First of all the isolation of the Turk cyps is by the Turkish armies continues illegal occupation of the island of Cyprus.....Second when you resoundly classify Greek cyps as working together to damage the Turkis cyps then that chord tells me you are not very bright, Greek cyps hardly ever agree on anything and knowing that, and your so called property commission, the one thing Greek cyps do agree in an abstract way is that 2+2=4, and they cannot disagree onthat fact. Truths are truths your commission is illegal and biased, Greek cyps have been ethncally cleansed from their ancestral homes, your have no legitimacy over our lands........get it Cyprus

Deniz do you see the GCs doing the same in the north? thats the difference between us.

VP, I have a lot of respect for what you have to say, But do you really expect our GC friends to behave differently? They have been ethnically cleansed from the north and you expect them to behave in a different manner. If you can get angry at their behaiviour in the past, expect the same or even worse.

Deniz you cannot be to careful with GCs they are very cunning and united in making us pay...the isolation is a clear example of their real intentions...they will not shop in the north as they know it will support or economy which they pray in church every Sunday will collapse leaving us desolate surrendering to their ever whim. They are united in bycotting spending in the north or even going to the property commission thats where we differ we holdno grudges and rush south thinking things are cheaper which has been proven to be a phallacy but we TCs are not united and like to show off by say we went south to shop like its a big deal, which it is clearly not...people just do not realize they are being screwed and they are contributing to the economy of the man who wants them wiped of this island and therefore continues with actions that support the economice isolation and development of the north. You are clever enough to wor out the rest, dont be fooled by the exterior its whats inside which is more important and I personally dont find them to be genuine or balanced.

Your whole policy is geared to making us pay and squeezing us into submission, you can blame all and sundry but the basic facts speak for themselves you support the isoalation of the North and the stiffling of economy well thank god Turkey is around to counter your warped mentality which will not allow us to economically grow in areas naturally and have to resort to the sale of disputed land, so in reality you are shooting yourselves in the foot.

Your naivety about the uniform policy of the GC leadership to crack down on GCs who dare venture into the north that would in anyway benefit the economy labelling them traitors and outcasts is documented. GCs who have traded with TC business have been penalized by the tax office thus the leadership to make sure they stop such pratices, you are either very naive about your own people or very very stupid...Ill let you choose.

[Viewpoint]

"Deniz do you see the GCs doing the same in the north? thats the difference between us."

What is there to buy in the north? Unfortunately, the GC's have gotten used to Western decadence and they have a massive choice of where to buy things from and at very competitive prices.

And that is why TC's flock to the south to buy things because they can get a better deal and wider choice. Its nothing to do with supporting the other community but what is best for ones pocket!

Mikkie our restaurants are much better and brand names are much cheaper in the north but its is a GC united policy not to buy anything from the north. In my line of business I speak with many businessmen wnd believe me it is a concerted GC official line to stop trade between to the 2 sides...one GC buyer was even fined heavily by the tax office for trade done with a TC company in the north he immediately ceased his dealings...speaks volumes dont you think?

It would be a bizarre situation if on the one hand we wanted the “TRNC” dismantled and on the other kept it afloat… wouldn’t it?

Think of that in reverse from the TC angle, doesnt stop us shopping in the south...you people are more united in your goals.

[denizaksulu]

Deniz do you see the GCs doing the same in the north? thats the difference between us.

VP, I have a lot of respect for what you have to say, But do you really expect our GC friends to behave differently? They have been ethnically cleansed from the north and you expect them to behave in a different manner. If you can get angry at their behaiviour in the past, expect the same or even worse.

Deniz you cannot be to careful with GCs they are very cunning and united in making us pay...the isolation is a clear example of their real intentions...they will not shop in the north as they know it will support or economy which they pray in church every Sunday will collapse leaving us desolate surrendering to their ever whim. They are united in bycotting spending in the north or even going to the property commission thats where we differ we holdno grudges and rush south thinking things are cheaper which has been proven to be a phallacy but we TCs are not united and like to show off by say we went south to shop like its a big deal, which it is clearly not...people just do not realize they are being screwed and they are contributing to the economy of the man who wants them wiped of this island and therefore continues with actions that support the economice isolation and development of the north. You are clever enough to wor out the rest, dont be fooled by the exterior its whats inside which is more important and I personally dont find them to be genuine or balanced.

You are right, they are making us 'pay through our nose for 'stealing their heritage. The politicians have a lot to sort out then. I too do not like their 'isolationist policies, fakat 'ne ekersen onu biçersin' The GC wıll not reward you for your 'peace operation' and everything it entails.

Do you really believe we caused the peace operation on our own? the GCs have a lot to answer for and if we consider the responsiblity to be 50 50 then why should we suffer, dont forget we have lost 67% of our island and recognition which the GCs continue to milk at our loss...they are not as white as you seem to believe but the only alternative they place on the table is minority rights in a Gc state run by the majority which happens to be the GCs whos mentality has not changed one iota from the forefathers in the 1960s...frightening thought.

Ihope I am not receiving a lesson in the history of Cyprus. I am aware of the coup and the 'peace op' which ended up in an 'occupation'. As to the properties left behind, they still belong to the KOCHAN holders. Can you say the same about the GC properties. I belive in justice for all. When I read the 'Constitution' of the north, and the statement that ALL GC properties belong to the northern authorities, I felt disgusted. More so when they were dishing these properties to anyone who knocked on their door. This apart from 'eshdeger'. Then the selling off to developers. You may have your reasons (economic survival) but this is still wrong. My priciples do not stand for such behaviour. Sorry, but this is me.

[Viewpoint]

Actually i shopped many times in North Nicosia, i bought curtains at Ledra..better material and better prices....so there VP

The figures speak for themselves, when you consider the population ratios and spending power.