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[YFred]

Swiss official hints at reversal of minaret ban

"A top Swiss official said yesterday that voter approval of a ban on minarets next to mosques could be struck down in court, as critics at home and abroad condemned the vote, saying it undermined the country's secular image.

Legal experts have questioned whether the ban on the Islamic minarets, used for the call to prayer, is compatible with Switzerland's constitution and with international human rights law."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 31659.html


Switzerland faces backlash over minaret ban

"Switzerland has faced an international backlash from the Muslim world, Europe and even the Vatican following its vote to ban minarets on mosques."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... t-ban.html

Oh dear dear, VP is going to be upset to hear this because it will put a big damper to his propaganda of scare mongering about Unified Cyprus under true Democracy where he thinks that majority rule is absolute and that it can violate anyone's Constitutional, Democratic and Human Rights without being challenged in the courts.!

I had a gut feeling that it may well turn out to be unconstitutional but knowing next to nothing about the Swiss system I kept my mouth shut!

This is the normal practice in all True Democratic countries, GR, as you well know, but VP is part of a corrupt system in the north where no such Democratic system exists but rather where Democratic and Human Rights are violated at all times. I tried to explain this to him from my first post on this thread, but as a true Propagandist that he is in support of non Democratic means and a champion in violating others Human Rights due to his Racist and Fascistic views, he tries to BS everyone about the "dangers" of Democracy and the Rule of Law. It is obvious that he is not use to what is the norm in the west where everything is challengeable in the ballot box and the courts when anyone’s Constitutional, Democratic and Human Rights are violated. But once again, VP has shown everyone why he is not fit to be part of Unified Cyprus under True Democracy, because he has for too long been used to living in a corrupted society and he likes it, just because he personally benefits from it.!

Where was your True democracy when we were forced into enclaves and the untouchables were given a free reign to cause mayhem. Was it on holiday sailing I wonder?
You know very well the Cyprus problem is not that simple to solve and the more you pretend it is, the more you are going to be disbelieved by all TCs with the exception of maybe one or if really stretch it two.

[denizaksulu]

Swiss official hints at reversal of minaret ban

"A top Swiss official said yesterday that voter approval of a ban on minarets next to mosques could be struck down in court, as critics at home and abroad condemned the vote, saying it undermined the country's secular image.

Legal experts have questioned whether the ban on the Islamic minarets, used for the call to prayer, is compatible with Switzerland's constitution and with international human rights law."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 31659.html


Switzerland faces backlash over minaret ban

"Switzerland has faced an international backlash from the Muslim world, Europe and even the Vatican following its vote to ban minarets on mosques."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... t-ban.html

Oh dear dear, VP is going to be upset to hear this because it will put a big damper to his propaganda of scare mongering about Unified Cyprus under true Democracy where he thinks that majority rule is absolute and that it can violate anyone's Constitutional, Democratic and Human Rights without being challenged in the courts.!

I had a gut feeling that it may well turn out to be unconstitutional but knowing next to nothing about the Swiss system I kept my mouth shut!

This is the normal practice in all True Democratic countries, GR, as you well know, but VP is part of a corrupt system in the north where no such Democratic system exists but rather where Democratic and Human Rights are violated at all times. I tried to explain this to him from my first post on this thread, but as a true Propagandist that he is in support of non Democratic means and a champion in violating others Human Rights due to his Racist and Fascistic views, he tries to BS everyone about the "dangers" of Democracy and the Rule of Law. It is obvious that he is not use to what is the norm in the west where everything is challengeable in the ballot box and the courts when anyone’s Constitutional, Democratic and Human Rights are violated. But once again, VP has shown everyone why he is not fit to be part of Unified Cyprus under True Democracy, because he has for too long been used to living in a corrupted society and he likes it, just because he personally benefits from it.!

Where was your True democracy when we were forced into enclaves and the untouchables were given a free reign to cause mayhem. Was it on holiday sailing I wonder?
You know very well the Cyprus problem is not that simple to solve and the more you pretend it is, the more you are going to be disbelieved by all TCs with the exception of maybe one or if really stretch it two.

or perhaps three and ......

[YFred]

Swiss official hints at reversal of minaret ban

"A top Swiss official said yesterday that voter approval of a ban on minarets next to mosques could be struck down in court, as critics at home and abroad condemned the vote, saying it undermined the country's secular image.

Legal experts have questioned whether the ban on the Islamic minarets, used for the call to prayer, is compatible with Switzerland's constitution and with international human rights law."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 31659.html


Switzerland faces backlash over minaret ban

"Switzerland has faced an international backlash from the Muslim world, Europe and even the Vatican following its vote to ban minarets on mosques."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... t-ban.html

Oh dear dear, VP is going to be upset to hear this because it will put a big damper to his propaganda of scare mongering about Unified Cyprus under true Democracy where he thinks that majority rule is absolute and that it can violate anyone's Constitutional, Democratic and Human Rights without being challenged in the courts.!

I had a gut feeling that it may well turn out to be unconstitutional but knowing next to nothing about the Swiss system I kept my mouth shut!

This is the normal practice in all True Democratic countries, GR, as you well know, but VP is part of a corrupt system in the north where no such Democratic system exists but rather where Democratic and Human Rights are violated at all times. I tried to explain this to him from my first post on this thread, but as a true Propagandist that he is in support of non Democratic means and a champion in violating others Human Rights due to his Racist and Fascistic views, he tries to BS everyone about the "dangers" of Democracy and the Rule of Law. It is obvious that he is not use to what is the norm in the west where everything is challengeable in the ballot box and the courts when anyone’s Constitutional, Democratic and Human Rights are violated. But once again, VP has shown everyone why he is not fit to be part of Unified Cyprus under True Democracy, because he has for too long been used to living in a corrupted society and he likes it, just because he personally benefits from it.!

Where was your True democracy when we were forced into enclaves and the untouchables were given a free reign to cause mayhem. Was it on holiday sailing I wonder?
You know very well the Cyprus problem is not that simple to solve and the more you pretend it is, the more you are going to be disbelieved by all TCs with the exception of maybe one or if really stretch it two.

or perhaps three and ......

That's not be over ambitious otherwise his last words may be "Et tu Brute"

[Kikapu]

Swiss official hints at reversal of minaret ban

"A top Swiss official said yesterday that voter approval of a ban on minarets next to mosques could be struck down in court, as critics at home and abroad condemned the vote, saying it undermined the country's secular image.

Legal experts have questioned whether the ban on the Islamic minarets, used for the call to prayer, is compatible with Switzerland's constitution and with international human rights law."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 31659.html


Switzerland faces backlash over minaret ban

"Switzerland has faced an international backlash from the Muslim world, Europe and even the Vatican following its vote to ban minarets on mosques."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... t-ban.html

Oh dear dear, VP is going to be upset to hear this because it will put a big damper to his propaganda of scare mongering about Unified Cyprus under true Democracy where he thinks that majority rule is absolute and that it can violate anyone's Constitutional, Democratic and Human Rights without being challenged in the courts.!

I had a gut feeling that it may well turn out to be unconstitutional but knowing next to nothing about the Swiss system I kept my mouth shut!

This is the normal practice in all True Democratic countries, GR, as you well know, but VP is part of a corrupt system in the north where no such Democratic system exists but rather where Democratic and Human Rights are violated at all times. I tried to explain this to him from my first post on this thread, but as a true Propagandist that he is in support of non Democratic means and a champion in violating others Human Rights due to his Racist and Fascistic views, he tries to BS everyone about the "dangers" of Democracy and the Rule of Law. It is obvious that he is not use to what is the norm in the west where everything is challengeable in the ballot box and the courts when anyone’s Constitutional, Democratic and Human Rights are violated. But once again, VP has shown everyone why he is not fit to be part of Unified Cyprus under True Democracy, because he has for too long been used to living in a corrupted society and he likes it, just because he personally benefits from it.!

Where was your True democracy when we were forced into enclaves and the untouchables were given a free reign to cause mayhem. Was it on holiday sailing I wonder?
You know very well the Cyprus problem is not that simple to solve and the more you pretend it is, the more you are going to be disbelieved by all TCs with the exception of maybe one or if really stretch it two.

Cyprus never had a True Democracy any time in it's history between the GCs and the TCs, Küçük, which was part of the problems of the past and which is what some of you boneheads are striving today to go back to the old days of no True Democracy with some of your undemocratic and violations of Human Rights demands for Unified Cyprus in the future, so don't blame the problems of post 1963 on "True Democracy", because it never existed back then.!

[YFred]

Swiss official hints at reversal of minaret ban

"A top Swiss official said yesterday that voter approval of a ban on minarets next to mosques could be struck down in court, as critics at home and abroad condemned the vote, saying it undermined the country's secular image.

Legal experts have questioned whether the ban on the Islamic minarets, used for the call to prayer, is compatible with Switzerland's constitution and with international human rights law."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 31659.html


Switzerland faces backlash over minaret ban

"Switzerland has faced an international backlash from the Muslim world, Europe and even the Vatican following its vote to ban minarets on mosques."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... t-ban.html

Oh dear dear, VP is going to be upset to hear this because it will put a big damper to his propaganda of scare mongering about Unified Cyprus under true Democracy where he thinks that majority rule is absolute and that it can violate anyone's Constitutional, Democratic and Human Rights without being challenged in the courts.!

I had a gut feeling that it may well turn out to be unconstitutional but knowing next to nothing about the Swiss system I kept my mouth shut!

This is the normal practice in all True Democratic countries, GR, as you well know, but VP is part of a corrupt system in the north where no such Democratic system exists but rather where Democratic and Human Rights are violated at all times. I tried to explain this to him from my first post on this thread, but as a true Propagandist that he is in support of non Democratic means and a champion in violating others Human Rights due to his Racist and Fascistic views, he tries to BS everyone about the "dangers" of Democracy and the Rule of Law. It is obvious that he is not use to what is the norm in the west where everything is challengeable in the ballot box and the courts when anyone’s Constitutional, Democratic and Human Rights are violated. But once again, VP has shown everyone why he is not fit to be part of Unified Cyprus under True Democracy, because he has for too long been used to living in a corrupted society and he likes it, just because he personally benefits from it.!

Where was your True democracy when we were forced into enclaves and the untouchables were given a free reign to cause mayhem. Was it on holiday sailing I wonder?
You know very well the Cyprus problem is not that simple to solve and the more you pretend it is, the more you are going to be disbelieved by all TCs with the exception of maybe one or if really stretch it two.

Cyprus never had a True Democracy any time in it's history between the GCs and the TCs, Küçük, which was part of the problems of the past and which is what some of you boneheads are striving today to go back to the old days of no True Democracy with some of your undemocratic and violations of Human Rights demands for Unified Cyprus in the future, so don't blame the problems of post 1963 on "True Democracy", because it never existed back then.!

Sayin Boklu, as the majority stake holders were the GCs in that fine institution called roc, who carries the can? where does the buck stop?
Time to own up and stop pretending, cause it will put you further in the shit. If roc was a company, all its officers would have imprisoned to this day.

[denizaksulu]

Kindly edit your last post Yfred. I am easily confused.

[Kikapu]

Swiss official hints at reversal of minaret ban

"A top Swiss official said yesterday that voter approval of a ban on minarets next to mosques could be struck down in court, as critics at home and abroad condemned the vote, saying it undermined the country's secular image.

Legal experts have questioned whether the ban on the Islamic minarets, used for the call to prayer, is compatible with Switzerland's constitution and with international human rights law."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 31659.html


Switzerland faces backlash over minaret ban

"Switzerland has faced an international backlash from the Muslim world, Europe and even the Vatican following its vote to ban minarets on mosques."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... t-ban.html

Oh dear dear, VP is going to be upset to hear this because it will put a big damper to his propaganda of scare mongering about Unified Cyprus under true Democracy where he thinks that majority rule is absolute and that it can violate anyone's Constitutional, Democratic and Human Rights without being challenged in the courts.!

I had a gut feeling that it may well turn out to be unconstitutional but knowing next to nothing about the Swiss system I kept my mouth shut!

This is the normal practice in all True Democratic countries, GR, as you well know, but VP is part of a corrupt system in the north where no such Democratic system exists but rather where Democratic and Human Rights are violated at all times. I tried to explain this to him from my first post on this thread, but as a true Propagandist that he is in support of non Democratic means and a champion in violating others Human Rights due to his Racist and Fascistic views, he tries to BS everyone about the "dangers" of Democracy and the Rule of Law. It is obvious that he is not use to what is the norm in the west where everything is challengeable in the ballot box and the courts when anyone’s Constitutional, Democratic and Human Rights are violated. But once again, VP has shown everyone why he is not fit to be part of Unified Cyprus under True Democracy, because he has for too long been used to living in a corrupted society and he likes it, just because he personally benefits from it.!

Where was your True democracy when we were forced into enclaves and the untouchables were given a free reign to cause mayhem. Was it on holiday sailing I wonder?
You know very well the Cyprus problem is not that simple to solve and the more you pretend it is, the more you are going to be disbelieved by all TCs with the exception of maybe one or if really stretch it two.

Cyprus never had a True Democracy any time in it's history between the GCs and the TCs, Küçük, which was part of the problems of the past and which is what some of you boneheads are striving today to go back to the old days of no True Democracy with some of your undemocratic and violations of Human Rights demands for Unified Cyprus in the future, so don't blame the problems of post 1963 on "True Democracy", because it never existed back then.!

Sayin Boklu, as the majority stake holders were the GCs in that fine institution called roc, who carries the can? where does the buck stop?
Time to own up and stop pretending, cause it will put you further in the shit. If roc was a company, all its officers would have imprisoned to this day.

And dynamite comes in small packages, so what's your point, Küçük, or are you saying that the TCs played no part leading to and post 1963.???

[Afroasiatis]

Swiss voters back ban on minarets

There are only four minarets in Switzerland
Swiss voters have supported a referendum proposal to ban the building of minarets, official results show.

More than 57% of voters and 22 out of 26 cantons - or provinces - voted in favour of the ban.

The proposal had been put forward by the Swiss People's Party, (SVP), the largest party in parliament, which says minarets are a sign of Islamisation.

The government opposed the ban, saying it would harm Switzerland's image, particularly in the Muslim world.

But Martin Baltisser, the SVP's general secretary, told the BBC: "This was a vote against minarets as symbols of Islam
ic power."

The BBC's Imogen Foulkes, in Bern, says the surprise result is very bad news for the Swiss government which fears unrest among the Muslim community.

Our correspondent says voters worried about rising immigration - and with it the rise of Islam - have ignored the government's advice.

In a statement, the government said it accepted the decision.

It said: "The Federal Council (government) respects this decision. Consequently the construction of new minarets in Switzerland is no longer permitted."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8385069.stm

The issue may not be so important practically. Muslims can still practice their religion, even without minarets.

The problem is the tencency in the society demonstrated by this decision.

It seems the Muslims are becoming the new "internal enemies" in the eyes of many Europeans, the new Jews we could say. I hope this story doesn't end in a similar way as it ended with the Jews.

[Get Real!]

Where was your True democracy when we were forced into enclaves and the untouchables were given a free reign to cause mayhem.

So what's stopping you from taking the TMT to the ECHR?

[Get Real!]

The issue may not be so important practically. Muslims can still practice their religion, even without minarets.

Just as Christians can practice theirs without Church bell towers!