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[bill cobbett]

archive article - Thursday, May 12, 2005)

AZIZ Kent, one of the four people in the north to be served with a European arrest warrant by the Cypriot government for allegedly building on Greek Cypriot lands, said yesterday he would fight to clear his name and was considering whether to sue the Cyprus government for damages to his business and reputation.

After four years and no result, I guess he decided he may have got his "deeds" mixed up ...

The list linked to now shows the Celebrity Hotel as being TC owned - but look what he had to do to get this changed! I would assume the title deeds in the RoC show that the land in TC owned but either this was not checked before publication or was done deliberately.

There is another explanation. It is just one of many properties that roc has doctored the deeds to make it look like it is GC owned.

Er... Any chance of a link to a source to substantiate that dodgy claim please Freddie? Thank you.

[Kikapu]

CTA does have assets in the UK so, in principle, these could be taken. The issues are quite complex though. Furthermore CTA, as far as I am aware, is not the claimed owner of Ercan airport.

Before taking this any further it might be worth which other companies could also be in the firing line - HSBC, Vodaphone, all the multinational car manufacturers and distributors, oil and gas companies, etc all operate in the north.

CTA does rent space as well as conducts a commercial business in and out of Ercan, therefore they are trespassing on property that belong to the GCs, including GR. That being the case, they can be sued on those grounds regardless the fact that they are in the RED financially. Their assets in EU countries as well as the planes can be confiscated, although I'm sure the planes are the property of Turkish Airlines and not CTA, in which case, Turkish Airlines will be sued also, just because they too operate out of Ercan.

All in all, the whole north will become a Bonanza Bounty for any sue happy lawyers if there is no settlement soon. The north will become so bankrupt due to many foreign companies pulling out to avoid being sued as well as being "Named & Shamed" in the media for their involvement in conducting their business on stolen GC properties. The sooner there is a settlement, the sooner the TCs in the north can lead a normal and an honest life away from the corrupted society their fascists leaders has built for them to live in.

[B25]

If the GC lawyers had half a brain, they would be offering no win no fee services to all that wanted to sue in the north.

They will just get a cutfrom the proceeds.

The people I would dearly like to see shafted are HSBC and Vodafone , and then moving onto the others.

Come on you lawyers this would be a nice lucrative deal and you would be doing your country a service.

[Kikapu]

If the GC lawyers had half a brain, they would be offering no win no fee services to all that wanted to sue in the north.

They will just get a cutfrom the proceeds.

The people I would dearly like to see shafted are HSBC and Vodafone , and then moving onto the others.

Come on you lawyers this would be a nice lucrative deal and you would be doing your country a service.

In the states, 60%-40% would be normal, the lawyers getting 40% if it's a difficult case and if the lawyers think they can win the case or settle out of court. If it's an easy case to win, then the 40% can be negotiated to be much lower % for the lawyers.

[bill cobbett]

If the GC lawyers had half a brain, they would be offering no win no fee services to all that wanted to sue in the north.

They will just get a cutfrom the proceeds.

The people I would dearly like to see shafted are HSBC and Vodafone , and then moving onto the others.

Come on you lawyers this would be a nice lucrative deal and you would be doing your country a service.

In the states, 60%-40% would be normal, the lawyers getting 40% if it's a difficult case and if the lawyers think they can win the case or settle out of court. If it's an easy case to win, then the 40% can be negotiated to be much lower % for the lawyers.

OMG, hope no grissy lawyers are reading the above. They'll be a riotous stampede to take on these easy-win cases!

Must look a little more deeply into HSBC and Vodaphone.

[vaughanwilliams]

If the GC lawyers had half a brain, they would be offering no win no fee services to all that wanted to sue in the north.

They will just get a cutfrom the proceeds.

The people I would dearly like to see shafted are HSBC and Vodafone , and then moving onto the others.

Come on you lawyers this would be a nice lucrative deal and you would be doing your country a service.

I'm sure the GC lawyers have more than half a brain, it's probably the fact that they have less than half a chance of winning that's putting them off.

[CopperLine]

If the GC lawyers had half a brain, they would be offering no win no fee services to all that wanted to sue in the north.

They will just get a cutfrom the proceeds.

The people I would dearly like to see shafted are HSBC and Vodafone , and then moving onto the others.

Come on you lawyers this would be a nice lucrative deal and you would be doing your country a service.

I'm sure the GC lawyers have more than half a brain, it's probably the fact that they have less than half a chance of winning that's putting them off.

Indeed. Just like estate agents, if lawyers rush out wanting to represent you then turn and run the other way. Any half decent lawyer does not look for clients. Prospective clients go to them. I'd caution people on this forum against thinking that turning to law is a panacea. It is not.

[Malapapa]

Indeed. Just like estate agents, if lawyers rush out wanting to represent you then turn and run the other way. Any half decent lawyer does not look for clients. Prospective clients go to them. I'd caution people on this forum against thinking that turning to law is a panacea. It is not.

To paraphrase a certain someone...

“It is better to law-law than to war-war.”

[Gasman]

A year or so ago I read a complaint that the biggest threat to the TRNC hotel industry was all the Brit owned villas out there that they don't live in, but rent out to holidaymakers from the UK. No money going into the TRNC economy - the rents being paid in the UK. And that there were at that time more bedrooms available in privately owned villas than there were in all the hotels.

If they could seriously go after holidaymakers staying in GC owned hotels there, shouldn't they be able to go for holidaymakers staying in villas that were built on GC land?

I'd say it was probably the case that most first time holidaymakers to the TRNC don't know very much at all about the 'Cyprus Problem' and don't even cross over into the South once they've been delivered by coach transfer from LCA by their tour operators.

I often think it must come as a shock to them to see all those vast stretches of FORBIDDEN TERRITORY, some of them adjoining holiday accommodation! And wonder what they are told when they ask about it.

[Hermes]

If the GC lawyers had half a brain, they would be offering no win no fee services to all that wanted to sue in the north.

They will just get a cutfrom the proceeds.

The people I would dearly like to see shafted are HSBC and Vodafone , and then moving onto the others.

Come on you lawyers this would be a nice lucrative deal and you would be doing your country a service.

In the states, 60%-40% would be normal, the lawyers getting 40% if it's a difficult case and if the lawyers think they can win the case or settle out of court. If it's an easy case to win, then the 40% can be negotiated to be much lower % for the lawyers.

OMG, hope no grissy lawyers are reading the above. They'll be a riotous stampede to take on these easy-win cases!

Must look a little more deeply into HSBC and Vodaphone.

I mentioned them in another thread but don't forget the biggest of the lot, the UK-based Lewis Trust Group (LTG). There's an article about their activities in Karpasia here:

http://www.lobbyforcyprus.org/press/pre ... anddev.htm