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[Malapapa]

No, I think it makes sense to imprison people who are unwilling to abide by the law.

Okay, then you then should believe that every single EOKA member should have been imprisoned for their attacks on Brits and Turks. After all, it was against the law then....

EOKA members were imprisoned, tortured and even executed, for breaking the laws of colonial rule then.

You are equating EU membership with colonial rule from another era? What warped logic is this?

[Afroasiatis]

Turkey is adamant it does not wish to give up occupation of Cyprus and expects to be allowed into the EU still implementing GC-specific, racist segregation.

If Turkey was allowed to enter the EU without withdrawing its troops from northern Cyprus ... what would be the logistics of day to day movements around the now expanded EU?

Would there be a corner of Cyprus that would forever be unavailable to GCs? Available to Poles, French, Maltese etc ... but not GCs ... and by extension presumably Greeks from Greece.

How would this work? How could the principles of the EU function under such conditions?

If Turkey really expects to be allowed in the EU, is very questionable.

But anyway, I don't think that it's going to be a big problem for the EU to have some exceptions from its principles in small parts of its territory. I think they already accepted it for other parts.

[denizaksulu]

Turkey is adamant it does not wish to give up occupation of Cyprus and expects to be allowed into the EU still implementing GC-specific, racist segregation.

If Turkey was allowed to enter the EU without withdrawing its troops from northern Cyprus ... what would be the logistics of day to day movements around the now expanded EU?

Would there be a corner of Cyprus that would forever be unavailable to GCs? Available to Poles, French, Maltese etc ... but not GCs ... and by extension presumably Greeks from Greece.

How would this work? How could the principles of the EU function under such conditions?

Isnt there a little David/Davud who can face up to the big bully? United we have a bigger chance...........

[vaughanwilliams]

Look, just keep things seperated. True, there will have to be some territorial cessions from the north, plus compensation money from Turkey and TRNC, but this way, there will be no problems with inter-ethnic strife, and we'll all live hapilly ever after.

Sorry, no can do because the ENTIRE territory of Cyprus belongs to the RoC and there's NOTHING anyone can do to change that. Those trying to pervert things aren’t Cypriots anyway…

"........ the ENTIRE territory of Cyprus belongs to the RoC......."
Come on GR, you know the SBAs have never been a part of RoC. The GC government actually confirmed this during its accession to the EU.
Get your facts right.

[Malapapa]

Turkey is adamant it does not wish to give up occupation of Cyprus and expects to be allowed into the EU still implementing GC-specific, racist segregation.

If Turkey was allowed to enter the EU without withdrawing its troops from northern Cyprus ... what would be the logistics of day to day movements around the now expanded EU?

Would there be a corner of Cyprus that would forever be unavailable to GCs? Available to Poles, French, Maltese etc ... but not GCs ... and by extension presumably Greeks from Greece.

How would this work? How could the principles of the EU function under such conditions?

Isnt there a little David/Davud who can face up to the big bully? United we have a bigger chance...........

Turkey isn't just a big bully; she is totally insane with it.

How, in the real world, does she plan to keep GCs out who are British/other EU nationals? Or GC owned companies registered in other EU countries? Or partnership companies part-GC owned? Or British/other EU citizens whose parents or spouses are GC? Or citizens who are half GC half/half something else?

[Me Ed]

Turkey is adamant it does not wish to give up occupation of Cyprus and expects to be allowed into the EU still implementing GC-specific, racist segregation.

If Turkey was allowed to enter the EU without withdrawing its troops from northern Cyprus ... what would be the logistics of day to day movements around the now expanded EU?

Would there be a corner of Cyprus that would forever be unavailable to GCs? Available to Poles, French, Maltese etc ... but not GCs ... and by extension presumably Greeks from Greece.

How would this work? How could the principles of the EU function under such conditions?

Oracle, I believe that after reading comments from the more prolific TC/Turkish contributers to this forum, even they know it cannot work and have adopted a "sour grapes" approach to Turkeys EU application, and views not shared by the Government of Turkey.

Is the Turkeys EU bid linked to settlement in Cyprus? Turkey may not like it, but anyone with a gram of common sense would have to accept that it is.

[Malapapa]

Look, just keep things seperated. True, there will have to be some territorial cessions from the north, plus compensation money from Turkey and TRNC, but this way, there will be no problems with inter-ethnic strife, and we'll all live hapilly ever after.

Sorry, no can do because the ENTIRE territory of Cyprus belongs to the RoC and there's NOTHING anyone can do to change that. Those trying to pervert things aren’t Cypriots anyway…

"........ the ENTIRE territory of Cyprus belongs to the RoC......."
Come on GR, you know the SBAs have never been a part of RoC. The GC government actually confirmed this during its accession to the EU.
Get your facts right.

It's already been agreed - to prevent problems and strife - that this territory is where the lawless from the north can be moved to, post-solution. And in this way you, the Orams and all the other carpetbaggers can ensure one small part of the ex-SBAs can remain forever British.

[YFred]

Turkey is adamant it does not wish to give up occupation of Cyprus and expects to be allowed into the EU still implementing GC-specific, racist segregation.

If Turkey was allowed to enter the EU without withdrawing its troops from northern Cyprus ... what would be the logistics of day to day movements around the now expanded EU?

Would there be a corner of Cyprus that would forever be unavailable to GCs? Available to Poles, French, Maltese etc ... but not GCs ... and by extension presumably Greeks from Greece.

How would this work? How could the principles of the EU function under such conditions?

Isnt there a little David/Davud who can face up to the big bully? United we have a bigger chance...........

Turkey isn't just a big bully; she is totally insane with it.

How, in the real world, does she plan to keep GCs out who are British/other EU nationals? Or GC owned companies registered in other EU countries? Or partnership companies part-GC owned? Or British/other EU citizens whose parents or spouses are GC? Or citizens who are half GC half/half something else?

By your reasoning, a totally insane society armed to the teeth and yet you wish to antagonize them to the point beyond, perhaps attempting to sweet talk her in to disarming may be a better option.

[Malapapa]

By your reasoning, a totally insane society armed to the teeth and yet you wish to antagonize them to the point beyond, perhaps attempting to sweet talk her in to disarming may be a better option.

What, like this?

[YFred]

By your reasoning, a totally insane society armed to the teeth and yet you wish to antagonize them to the point beyond, perhaps attempting to sweet talk her in to disarming may be a better option.

What, like this?

Which bit of his agreement was referring to disarm Germany, all he came back with is a promise that Hitler will not attack Poland. Hitler did not declare war on Britain, It was the other way round.