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[bill cobbett]

From CNA ......

BRITISH PRIME MINISTER – CYPRUS ISSUE
 
British Prime Minister Gordon Brown has expressed his wish to see progress in the Cyprus peace talks, noting that, to this effect, he is talking to the leaders of the two communities on the island.

“Ι want to see progress in Cyprus. I have talked to President Christofias on a number of occasions. About that he has visited London and we have considered what we can do to help. We made an offer about the Bases and what we can do to help to make possible an agreement as a result of our actions,” he said speaking at a press conference.

Now, he added, “I am going to talk to Mr Talat (Turkish Cypriot leader) and obviously, I am talking to Mr Papandreou and Mr Erdogan about the very issue.”

“So, I am very anxious to push things forward. I think there is a need to deal with this problem that was not solved by the Annan proposals a few years ago but where there is good will I hope we can make some progress,” he concluded.

Christofias and Talat have been engaged in UN-led peace talks since September last year, in an effort to find a negotiated settlement that will reunite Cyprus, which has been divided since the 1974 Turkish invasion.

Britain is a guarantor power of Cyprus’ independence, in accordance with the 1960 treaties that established the Republic of Cyprus. It maintains two military bases on the island and recently it repeated an offer to give up part of the bases territory, should an agreement be reached between the two communities.
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[Viewpoint]

Hes not saying what you cliam Bill....naughty naughty.

[bill cobbett]

Hes not saying what you cliam Bill....naughty naughty.

me naughty? Never!

Anyway my dear VP, this is what the man says on the subject ....

“So, I am very anxious to push things forward. I think there is a need to deal with this problem that was not solved by the Annan proposals a few years ago but where there is good will I hope we can make some progress,”

To re-quote the salient phrase, he says that our little problem "was not solved by the Annan proposals"

... so it still comes across to me, at any rate if not you, as saying that... it was not a solution.

[Malapapa]

Hes not saying what you cliam Bill....naughty naughty.

me naughty? Never!

Anyway my dear VP, this is what the man says on the subject ....

“So, I am very anxious to push things forward. I think there is a need to deal with this problem that was not solved by the Annan proposals a few years ago but where there is good will I hope we can make some progress,”

To re-quote the salient phrase, he says that our little problem "was not solved by the Annan proposals"

... so it still comes across to me, at any rate if not you, as saying that... it was not a solution.

I'm with you on this, bill. He is stepping back from "Annan", having been well briefed as to its deficiences now that Cyprus is in the EU.

Notice how he doesn't even use the word "Plan" either, but "Proposal".

Like the difference between a more advanced "wedding plan"... ie. how many guests? which church? and a more speculative "wedding proposal"... ie. will you marry me?

Top marks, bill for spotting the semantic shift, and to Mr Brown, for making it.

[Oracle]

Quite correct my linguistic detectives

That was a full disclosure that the Annan Proposals did not work and we should press forward for a solution. Nota bene ... he did NOT propose to repackage the Annan proposals!

End of Annan! Confined to the dust-bin of history ...

[bill cobbett]

Hes not saying what you cliam Bill....naughty naughty.

me naughty? Never!

Anyway my dear VP, this is what the man says on the subject ....

“So, I am very anxious to push things forward. I think there is a need to deal with this problem that was not solved by the Annan proposals a few years ago but where there is good will I hope we can make some progress,”

To re-quote the salient phrase, he says that our little problem "was not solved by the Annan proposals"

... so it still comes across to me, at any rate if not you, as saying that... it was not a solution.

I'm with you on this, bill. He is stepping back from "Annan", having been well briefed as to its deficiences now that Cyprus is in the EU.

Notice how he doesn't even use the word "Plan" either, but "Proposal".

Like the difference between a more advanced "wedding plan"... ie. how many guests? which church? and a more speculative "wedding proposal"... ie. will you marry me?

Top marks, bill for spotting the semantic shift, and to Mr Brown, for making it.

Yes, I think do as well. I don't think it's a big, big step-change from the long-standing GB Foreign Office CY position, but there is a hint there of a small movement.

Brown is in the last 5-6 months of his premiership(?). Wonder whether he sees a chance of leaving a bit of a legacy by being associated with a CY settlement? Perhaps he smells a share of a Nobel Peace Price?

[Malapapa]

Brown is in the last 5-6 months of his premiership(?). Wonder whether he sees a chance of leaving a bit of a legacy by being associated with a CY settlement? Perhaps he smells a share of a Nobel Peace Price?

He'd need to share such a prize with this guy, though.



And I doubt General Mehmet İlker Başbuğ cares much for winning peace prizes.