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Postby Oracle » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:03 pm

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Oracle wrote:Unlike Crete or Rhodes, Cyprus is an Independent sovereign country and Greece acknowledges this -- so it can't treat Cyprus in the same way it would treat an invasion of Crete.

Then you should correct your half-baked friends that Cyprus is a Cypriot island or they should demand that the Greek military mobilizes to liberate them.


They're not my friends, but they are entitled to their opinions. However, I can't fight on two fronts as you seem to. So, I concentrate on the number one enemy to Cyprus' freedom which is the present occupier!

It's also against pushing its "guarantee" status to invade in a military operation against the Turks because it could legitimise the Turkish invasion in the name of using its "guarantee". It has to be the EU, not just Greece, so be patient.

The Greeks were shameless on the 15th of July 1974, when they overthrew the legitimate government of Cyprus in violation of this treaty you mention so why would they be ashamed to make amends now?

We've covered this. That was the junta and they did not have the support of the Greek people just as Sampson (a GC) did not have the support of the majority of the GCs for his part.

Present Greece is behaving in a totally different way, not interfering in case things get worse and it would continue to get the blame. That's why they have to ready the EU to kick out Turkey ... we cannot do it alone (Cypriots) or just with Greece ... it has to be through the EU.

But, it's foolhardy to deny Greece is our most reliable ally.

Reliable for what exactly? To pervert the Cypriot heritage and screw up the minds of our people with a bizarre situation that alegedly makes them “Greek” but not Greek enough to be entitled to military protection rendering them helpless?

They’re doing a perfect job at that…


You complain that "Greece" interfered in 1974 and now you want them to interfere unilaterally again?

No. I want the EU to help us kick out the Turks because it is now an EU problem not just a Cyprus Problem.
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Postby Bananiot » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:33 pm

Really, this joke just has to stop:

Present Greece is behaving in a totally different way, not interfering in case things get worse and it would continue to get the blame. That's why they have to ready the EU to kick out Turkey ... we cannot do it alone (Cypriots) or just with Greece ... it has to be through the EU.


Even if it is said by the crazy woman.

I wonder, however, are there more people who still think that now that we are members of the European Union we will get on the plate the solution we want?
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Postby Oracle » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:40 pm

Bananiot wrote:Really, this joke just has to stop:

Present Greece is behaving in a totally different way, not interfering in case things get worse and it would continue to get the blame. That's why they have to ready the EU to kick out Turkey ... we cannot do it alone (Cypriots) or just with Greece ... it has to be through the EU.


Even if it is said by the crazy woman.

I wonder, however, are there more people who still think that now that we are members of the European Union we will get on the plate the solution we want?


I never said we will get anything on a plate. But, the Cyprus Problem is also an EU problem, and we have to work (hard) within the EU to get the right result for Cyprus.

You keep looking just to Turkey for the solution you want :roll:
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Postby verywitty » Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:00 pm

Before you start calling me a Turk for wanting a solution, can you please tell me what do you mean by work within the EU. Sitting back and trying to block Turkey from joining, is that the master plan? Does anyone honestly believe that if the EU wants Turkey to join, they will stop for even 1 second to consider what we think?
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Postby YFred » Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:56 pm

Bananiot wrote:Really, this joke just has to stop:

Present Greece is behaving in a totally different way, not interfering in case things get worse and it would continue to get the blame. That's why they have to ready the EU to kick out Turkey ... we cannot do it alone (Cypriots) or just with Greece ... it has to be through the EU.


Even if it is said by the crazy woman.

I wonder, however, are there more people who still think that now that we are members of the European Union we will get on the plate the solution we want?

That's very interesting and consistent with extreme religious beliefs. Isn't that kind of belief existed about 2000 years ago, that God will send a prophet and save the Jews. A Miracle? Very appropriate for the person who admires 2000 year old civilization - the greeks.
Perhaps they predicted it.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:01 am

I wonder if Bananiot watched the debate on TV tonight were someone (damn it I forgot his name) who was involved in the Akritas plan said that your hero Clerides was the 3rd man in charge and specifically for the “military side”?

No mention of TPaps being involved whatsoever btw!

You haven't been very honest with us Bananiot have you? :lol:
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Postby Expatkiwi » Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:12 am

Get Real! wrote:I wonder if Bananiot watched the debate on TV tonight were someone (damn it I forgot his name) who was involved in the Akritas plan said that your hero Clerides was the 3rd man in charge and specifically for the “military side”?

No mention of TPaps being involved whatsoever btw!

You haven't been very honest with us Bananiot have you? :lol:


Tassos Papadopoulos' legacy will always be as the man who killed the last chance to reunify the island.
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Postby Piratis » Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:22 am

Expatkiwi wrote:
Get Real! wrote:I wonder if Bananiot watched the debate on TV tonight were someone (damn it I forgot his name) who was involved in the Akritas plan said that your hero Clerides was the 3rd man in charge and specifically for the “military side”?

No mention of TPaps being involved whatsoever btw!

You haven't been very honest with us Bananiot have you? :lol:


Tassos Papadopoulos' legacy will always be as the man who killed the last chance to reunify the island.


Strange that the only people who claim such thing are the partitionists like you.

What Papadopoulos killed was a partition plan which would officially divide Cyprus, which explains why you don't like him.
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Postby YFred » Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:26 am

Get Real! wrote:I wonder if Bananiot watched the debate on TV tonight were someone (damn it I forgot his name) who was involved in the Akritas plan said that your hero Clerides was the 3rd man in charge and specifically for the “military side”?

No mention of TPaps being involved whatsoever btw!

You haven't been very honest with us Bananiot have you? :lol:

What, I thought you said there was no plan and there was no military side to it. You bloody liar.
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Postby Bananiot » Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:47 am

I do not have heroes GR and Klerides is certainly not my hero. It's another story if I believe that he is/was an excellent statesman, but you wouldn't understand these things anyway.

Papadopoulos was the vice president of the "organisation" with Yiorgadjis being the president. The involvement of Klerides in the "organisation" is no secret and Klerides himself writes about it in his books. If you had to wait till you turned 50 to find this out, from a chancy tv program, then there is nothing we can do about this. By the way, Papadopoulos was also "Defkalion" who justified all murders committed by EOKA thugs in the Famagusta district. No tv program has come up with this yet so perhaps you will be informed of this activity of your protege (remember when you went to see him at Tseri and you came out gleaming?) in ten years from now.
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