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[AWE]

It appears we are heading for a referendum after january when the shit hits the fan and details are realeased of a solution....only issue remaining is the guarantees thats why the UK have declared they are will to remove theirs (unconfirmed)

They did that in 1974. As did the other two "guarantors". They didn't guarantee what they were meant to guarantee. Why are you so obtuse? It's over.

It's like buying a watch with a lifetime's guarantee, which falls apart after 14 years. So you send the watch back to the manufacturer and, 35 years later, despite your repeated calls, he still hasn't managed to fix it. So then he says:

"Tell you what then, fix it yourself and, in return, I'll remove the lifetime's guarantee."

It's simply nonsense.

Extending the watch analogy.

I think it falls apart after 3 years, is repeatedly hit with a hammer for the next 10, vital parts are removed, and then you send it back asking for it to be fixed - no surprise that this does not constitute normal wear and tear so is not covered by the guarantee.

[Malapapa]

It appears we are heading for a referendum after january when the shit hits the fan and details are realeased of a solution....only issue remaining is the guarantees thats why the UK have declared they are will to remove theirs (unconfirmed)

They did that in 1974. As did the other two "guarantors". They didn't guarantee what they were meant to guarantee. Why are you so obtuse? It's over.

It's like buying a watch with a lifetime's guarantee, which falls apart after 14 years. So you send the watch back to the manufacturer and, 35 years later, despite your repeated calls, he still hasn't managed to fix it. So then he says:

"Tell you what then, fix it yourself and, in return, I'll remove the lifetime's guarantee."

It's simply nonsense.

Extending the watch analogy.

I think it falls apart after 3 years, is repeatedly hit with a hammer for the next 10, vital parts are removed, and then you send it back asking for it to be fixed - no surprise that this does not constitute normal wear and tear so is not covered by the guarantee.

Awe. It was a badly made watch from the start; the vital parts weren't removed, they were always loose and were bound to fall off. It should never have been put together like that. Have you seen the original spec.? The manufacturer should be done under the trade descriptions act. Also, despite the clear design faults, it was the only watch on offer; there was no choice but to buy.

But all this is by the by. The manufacturer's guarantee wasn't worth the paper it was written on. I'm calling Watchdog.

[AWE]

well if it is the only watch you can buy don't go abusing it, unless you want to break it. After all you could have said it is not working properly and asked the watchmaker to fix it...

[vaughanwilliams]

It will be your arse hanging out in the breeze, not mine, GR. Once this chapter closes the book won't reopen and your dreams of hanging on for a "better" deal will disappear like a Greek Cypriot at the sound of the first gun shot.

I see you're trying to make a joke about GC's being too chicken to fight in a war.

Funny, that coming from a Brit.

What are you trying to say? That we weren't major players in nearly every war other than Vietnam, in the last 100 years. We even went thousands of miles to kick Argentinian arse over a couple of hundred DESERVING islanders.

[Malapapa]

well if it is the only watch you can buy don't go abusing it, unless you want to break it. After all you could have said it is not working properly and asked the watchmaker to fix it...

It wasn't abuse. The owner was trying to make it work better. The owner had never been allowed to have a watch before. Others had always imposed time on him. Centuries. Like they imposed the watch.

Don't you get it? The watch was designed to break. It was not fit for purpose and should never have been sold in the first place. And the watchmaker (who by the way has since been taken over by some big cut-throat American firm which is about to go bankrupt) is unable to make good the mess he's created. And so he blames the owner.

[YFred]

well if it is the only watch you can buy don't go abusing it, unless you want to break it. After all you could have said it is not working properly and asked the watchmaker to fix it...

It wasn't abuse. The owner was trying to make it work better. The owner had never been allowed to have a watch before. Others had always imposed time on him. Centuries. Like they imposed the watch.

Don't you get it? The watch was designed to break. It was not fit for purpose and should never have been sold in the first place. And the watchmaker (who by the way has since been taken over by some big cut-throat American firm which is about to go bankrupt) is unable to make good the mess he's created. And so he blames the owner.

Stop kidding yourself. The watch would not have broken, if the owner had not started the plan to brake it, the day after it was received.
Some Bloody owner that turned out to be.

[AWE]

well if it is the only watch you can buy don't go abusing it, unless you want to break it. After all you could have said it is not working properly and asked the watchmaker to fix it...

It wasn't abuse. The owner was trying to make it work better. The owner had never been allowed to have a watch before. Others had always imposed time on him. Centuries. Like they imposed the watch.

Don't you get it? The watch was designed to break. It was not fit for purpose and should never have been sold in the first place. And the watchmaker (who by the way has since been taken over by some big cut-throat American firm which is about to go bankrupt) is unable to make good the mess he's created. And so he blames the owner.

a watch is a tool, as is a constitution. if you are given a poor tool and use it poorly is it the tool or use that is to blame?

So the constitution was not perfect, nor was the US at first or perhaps now, but that does not mean that imposing change without consultation is an acceptable method of fixing it - if two must use the same tool and one changes it without the others consent expect it to break.

[Malapapa]

The springs are now falling off this watch analogy. (And I don't have the time...)

[YFred]

The springs are now falling off this watch analogy. (And I don't have the time...)

Boing, boing, boing.
Have a nice day.