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Turkey: Burgenstock Objective

Postby eracles » Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:15 am

Looks like Turkey's idea of supporting a solution is to try to repeat the success of 2004

http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?id=n201384

Sabah: Turkey is in favor of quadruple summit on Cyprus issue
24 November 2009 | 22:36 | FOCUS News Agency
Ankara. Ankara calls for a quadruple summit between Northern Cyprus, Republic of Cyprus, Greece and Turkey to solve the Cyprus issue, Turkish Sabah daily writes.
Turkey has become more active to persuade Greek Cypriots of the necessity of a concrete schedule in the ongoing negotiations between the leaders of the two communities on the island of Cyprus, the Turkish newspaper writes.
At his meeting with U.S. President Barack Obama in Washington on December 7 Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan will send a message about “the necessity of a schedule in the negotiation process.”
Turkey has become more active in order to finish the talks, which started in September 2008 and which cannot progress quickly because of Greek Cypriots’ reluctance to bind with a concrete schedule through holding a new referendum, the daily says.
The objective is to hold a referendum before the presidential elections in Northern Cyprus at the beginning of 2010 through continuous negotiations following the Camp David or Burgenstock model (one-week negotiations in the Swiss resort of Burgenstock between Turkey, Greece and the two Cypriot communities in April 2004, which proved futile, but agreed two separate referendums on 24 April 2004, FOCUS News Agency’s note).
In a telephone conversation on November 22 with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan asked for support to speed up the negotiation process. London gave its full support as before that it announced that it could take some steps as far as its bases on the island are concerned to encourage the solution of the issue. Gordon Brown was positive about the proposal to work out a schedule for the talks, which take place under the auspices of the UN.
There is a positive dialog between the prime ministers of Turkey and Greece, says Sabah. On October 9 Erdogan held talks on the issue with his Greek counterpart Georgios Papandreou in Istanbul. It is expected the exchange of letters between the two leaders will contribute to the negotiations on the Cyprus issue.
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Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:17 am

I hope Turkey will show some credibility, wanting to be a leader in world affairs, by removing her troops, which occupy Cyprus illegally. There is no reason for the legitimisation of the TRNC or the Turkish fait accompli with a negociation at the table as adversaries of the RoC. Greece can hardly be a party to this aim; and it is surprising that in keeping with such a proposal, why has Great Britain not been included being a "Guarantor" as well.
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Postby SKI-preo » Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:36 am

A model involving two separate referendums along ethnic lines should not be agreed to. This does not have a genuine purpose of achieving a settlement. In fact it has been used as propaganda tool.One referendum is the only democratic voting system anything else is an abomination of democracy.
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Postby paliometoxo » Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:26 am

turkey is lthe .problem here.. when they stop .insisting on partition calling it re unification and leave cyprus alone
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Postby Malapapa » Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:02 am

SKI-preo wrote:A model involving two separate referendums along ethnic lines should not be agreed to. This does not have a genuine purpose of achieving a settlement. In fact it has been used as propaganda tool.One referendum is the only democratic voting system anything else is an abomination of democracy.


And only legitimate Cypriot citizens are entitled to vote.
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Postby YFred » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:33 am

Malapapa wrote:
SKI-preo wrote:A model involving two separate referendums along ethnic lines should not be agreed to. This does not have a genuine purpose of achieving a settlement. In fact it has been used as propaganda tool.One referendum is the only democratic voting system anything else is an abomination of democracy.


And only legitimate Cypriot citizens are entitled to vote.

Oh yeah, one referendum only. I like that, any more bright ideas from the Marsian?
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Postby Malapapa » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:49 am

YFred wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
SKI-preo wrote:A model involving two separate referendums along ethnic lines should not be agreed to. This does not have a genuine purpose of achieving a settlement. In fact it has been used as propaganda tool.One referendum is the only democratic voting system anything else is an abomination of democracy.


And only legitimate Cypriot citizens are entitled to vote.

Oh yeah, one referendum only. I like that, any more bright ideas from the Marsian?


I've got one. Graduates of Trahon are excluded from the vote.
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Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:09 pm

SKI-preo wrote:A model involving two separate referendums along ethnic lines should not be agreed to. This does not have a genuine purpose of achieving a settlement. In fact it has been used as propaganda tool.One referendum is the only democratic voting system anything else is an abomination of democracy.


...i like that; how true!
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Postby YFred » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:27 pm

Malapapa wrote:
YFred wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
SKI-preo wrote:A model involving two separate referendums along ethnic lines should not be agreed to. This does not have a genuine purpose of achieving a settlement. In fact it has been used as propaganda tool.One referendum is the only democratic voting system anything else is an abomination of democracy.


And only legitimate Cypriot citizens are entitled to vote.

Oh yeah, one referendum only. I like that, any more bright ideas from the Marsian?


I've got one. Graduates of Trahon are excluded from the vote.

Trahones or Trahona. Please. Or Varvaru, Bashimamma or Ambarena or Lakshes. Each one more educational then the other.
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Postby EPSILON » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:30 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:I hope Turkey will show some credibility, wanting to be a leader in world affairs, by removing her troops, which occupy Cyprus illegally. There is no reason for the legitimisation of the TRNC or the Turkish fait accompli with a negociation at the table as adversaries of the RoC. Greece can hardly be a party to this aim; and it is surprising that in keeping with such a proposal, why has Great Britain not been included being a "Guarantor" as well.


Can someone explain to me what is the difference (Militarinly) of Turkish army to be in North Cyprus and to be at South coast of Turkey?
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