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[Viewpoint]

...why must you suck off the 'motherland'. if you are a People, defend your State.

the Turkish Army as an occupier should be a concern to a citizen of the north who seeks autonomy and self-representation; this is what i am saying.

Hog wash your real aim is to get the TA off this island so that we have no real security and to allow you steam roll over us. Why not get rid of your own army first? they are a foreign and hostile army for us and wish they would piss off just as you wish to get rid of the TA lets see if you have the balls to get rid of your own army.

[insan]

When so-called RoC removes it's illegally established Greek commanded National Guard, Turkey withdraws her troops. Why don't u try advising so-called RoC and it's collaborator Greece to remove illegally established National Guard? Illegal is illegal.

There's nothing illegal or Greek about the National Guard of Cyprus...

Treaty of Alliance

IV. It is likewise agreed that the Tripartite Headquarters shall be set up not later than three months after the completion of the tasks of the Mixed Commission for the Cyprus Constitution and shall consist. in the initial period, of a limited number of officers charged with the training of the armed forces of the Republic of Cyprus. The Greek and Turkish contingents mentioned above will arrive in Cyprus on the date of signature of the Treaty of Alliance.

http://www.mfa.gov.cy/mfa/mfa2006.nsf/A ... liance.pdf

The Army of the Republic of Cyprus was founded immediately after the Declaration of Independence. It consisted of 2000 men, 60% of whom were Greek Cypriots and 40% Turkish Cypriots. National service was not mandatory and could be imposed with the mutual agreement of the President (Greek Cypriot) and the Vice-President (Turkish Cypriot) of the Republic.

http://www.cyprusnet.com/article_cyprus-national-guard

LEGAL.

Establishment of the National Guard - In June 1964, the Cyprus Parliament passed the National Guard Law, establishing obligatory national service and thus setting the foundations for the establishment of the active Cyprus Army. The military duty was initially 18 months and the National Guard was staffed by Officers, who assumed the responsibility of organizing and training its personnel with the help of volunteers who had joined the Army in 1962 and 1963.

ILLEGAL.

[insan]

When so-called RoC removes it's illegally established Greek commanded National Guard, Turkey withdraws her troops. Why don't u try advising so-called RoC and it's collaborator Greece to remove illegally established National Guard? Illegal is illegal.

There's nothing illegal or Greek about the National Guard of Cyprus...

Treaty of Alliance

IV. It is likewise agreed that the Tripartite Headquarters shall be set up not later than three months after the completion of the tasks of the Mixed Commission for the Cyprus Constitution and shall consist. in the initial period, of a limited number of officers charged with the training of the armed forces of the Republic of Cyprus. The Greek and Turkish contingents mentioned above will arrive in Cyprus on the date of signature of the Treaty of Alliance.

http://www.mfa.gov.cy/mfa/mfa2006.nsf/A ... liance.pdf

Everything is Greek and ILLEGAL abt so-called National Guard.

National Guard Emblem - The Two-headed Eagle was established as the emblem of the National Guard since its founding in 1964. It symbolizes the ecumenical character of the Greek spirit. The two-headed eagle was a mystical symbol of Hellenism since the ancient times. In ancient mythology, it was the par-excellence godly and heavenly bird, helper and protector of Zeus. It was first used as a symbol of power during the Byzantine years. It symbolized the dual sovereignty of the Byzantine Emperors in Europe and Asia.

http://www.cyprusnet.com/article_cyprus-national-guard

[Get Real!]

When so-called RoC removes it's illegally established Greek commanded National Guard, Turkey withdraws her troops. Why don't u try advising so-called RoC and it's collaborator Greece to remove illegally established National Guard? Illegal is illegal.

There's nothing illegal or Greek about the National Guard of Cyprus...

Treaty of Alliance

IV. It is likewise agreed that the Tripartite Headquarters shall be set up not later than three months after the completion of the tasks of the Mixed Commission for the Cyprus Constitution and shall consist. in the initial period, of a limited number of officers charged with the training of the armed forces of the Republic of Cyprus. The Greek and Turkish contingents mentioned above will arrive in Cyprus on the date of signature of the Treaty of Alliance.

http://www.mfa.gov.cy/mfa/mfa2006.nsf/A ... liance.pdf

The Army of the Republic of Cyprus was founded immediately after the Declaration of Independence. It consisted of 2000 men, 60% of whom were Greek Cypriots and 40% Turkish Cypriots. National service was not mandatory and could be imposed with the mutual agreement of the President (Greek Cypriot) and the Vice-President (Turkish Cypriot) of the Republic.

http://www.cyprusnet.com/article_cyprus-national-guard

LEGAL.

Establishment of the National Guard - In June 1964, the Cyprus Parliament passed the National Guard Law, establishing obligatory national service and thus setting the foundations for the establishment of the active Cyprus Army. The military duty was initially 18 months and the National Guard was staffed by Officers, who assumed the responsibility of organizing and training its personnel with the help of volunteers who had joined the Army in 1962 and 1963.

ILLEGAL.

From your link...

After the intercommunal events of December 1963-64, the Turkish Cypriots departed from the official Army of the Republic. At the same time and because of the threats of Turkey to take military action, the High Military Command for the Defense of Cyprus was created and a Greek Division was transferred to Cyprus. This Division operated on the island up to the end of 1967, when it was removed from Cyprus. In 1963, the Special Joint Staff of Cyprus was also established, and later was renamed into National Guard General Staff in 1964 after the establishment of the National Guard.

Establishment of the National Guard - In June 1964, the Cyprus Parliament passed the National Guard Law, establishing obligatory national service and thus setting the foundations for the establishment of the active Cyprus Army. The military duty was initially 18 months and the National Guard was staffed by Officers, who assumed the responsibility of organizing and training its personnel with the help of volunteers who had joined the Army in 1962 and 1963.

Your foolish departure doesn't mean the dissolution of a government or it’s National Guard!

It’s not a NEW separate entity like you assume but a continuation of it.

[Get Real!]

When so-called RoC removes it's illegally established Greek commanded National Guard, Turkey withdraws her troops. Why don't u try advising so-called RoC and it's collaborator Greece to remove illegally established National Guard? Illegal is illegal.

There's nothing illegal or Greek about the National Guard of Cyprus...

Treaty of Alliance

IV. It is likewise agreed that the Tripartite Headquarters shall be set up not later than three months after the completion of the tasks of the Mixed Commission for the Cyprus Constitution and shall consist. in the initial period, of a limited number of officers charged with the training of the armed forces of the Republic of Cyprus. The Greek and Turkish contingents mentioned above will arrive in Cyprus on the date of signature of the Treaty of Alliance.

http://www.mfa.gov.cy/mfa/mfa2006.nsf/A ... liance.pdf

Everything is Greek and ILLEGAL abt so-called National Guard.

National Guard Emblem - The Two-headed Eagle was established as the emblem of the National Guard since its founding in 1964. It symbolizes the ecumenical character of the Greek spirit. The two-headed eagle was a mystical symbol of Hellenism since the ancient times. In ancient mythology, it was the par-excellence godly and heavenly bird, helper and protector of Zeus. It was first used as a symbol of power during the Byzantine years. It symbolized the dual sovereignty of the Byzantine Emperors in Europe and Asia.

http://www.cyprusnet.com/article_cyprus-national-guard

We’ve talked about the Two-headed Eagle before and established that it’s NOT Greek but a Byzantine symbol used by many these days including…

• Albania (see Coat of arms of Albania)
• Armenia (see Coat of arms of Armenia)
• Austria-Hungary (historical)
• Austria (1934-1938) (see Coat of arms of Austria)
• Byzantine Empire (historical)
• German Confederation (historical)
• Holy Roman Empire (historical)
• Montenegro (see Coat of arms of Montenegro)
• Republika Srpska (formerly used from 1992 until 2007) in Bosnia and Herzegovina
• Russian Federation (see Coat of arms of Russia)
• Russian Empire (historical)
• Seljuk Empire (historical)
• Serbian Empire (historical)
• Serbia and Montenegro (historical)
• Serbia (see Coat of arms of Serbia)
• Spanish Empire during the House of Habsburg dynasty (see Coat of arms of Spain )
• Kingdom of Yugoslavia (historical)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-headed_eagle

The CNG is a TOTALLY independent army representing the RoC and has its own website. The current Greek commander is just an employment post and nothing more. The CNG’s unique website…

http://www.army.gov.cy/

[Get Real!]

The concise history of the National Guard… (in Greek)

http://www.army.gov.cy/index.php?id=11

[repulsewarrior]

insan, whatever the "Greeks" do has nothing to do with the question at hand: what are you doing for yourself?

If you are a People, where is your State? How is it that you allow for all this time a foreign power to "defend" you?

In essence you are a hostage to their will because your government is helpless without its Armed Force.

Treaties and alliances are made for mutual benefit, none I suppose exists between your "State" and Turkey. You rely on Turkey's goodwill. I suggest that this is not sufficient, as it does not demonstrate the capacity which your leadership portays as a reality: Independant, self-reliant, and representing its citizenry. Without the power to defend itself, it can only serve their interlocutor's interests before yours.

Once again, and for VP's benefit as well, never mind what the "Greeks" are doing, what are you doing for yourself?

...what makes you think you can sit at the table in Burgenstock as an equal?

[Get Real!]

Emblem of the Seljuk Turks dynasty and the Great Seljuk Empire!

Looks like the CNG is in alliance with the Seljuks!



By now I think Insan has done a runner...

[insan]

Emblem of the Seljuk Turks dynasty and the Great Seljuk Empire!

Looks like the CNG is in alliance with the Seljuks!



By now I think Insan has done a runner...

What does the double headed eagle symbolize if not symbolize the Greek spirit and Hellenism?

I let u guess what Grivas, Makarios and their Hellenist, Greek crew imagined when choosing the double headed eagle for the so-called NG of Cyprus.

[SKI-preo]

One referendum is the only democratic way to decide. Which other hair brain settlement process has successfully had more than one referendum?If the vote can be dissected along ethnic lines it is not even trying to appear legitimate. Screw that!