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Postby YFred » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:42 pm

Get Real! wrote:What’s all this Police bashing… imagine the anarchy without them!

Imagine if 6 of them hospitalised this man. I can't imagine that happening any where else, not even in Turkey. :wink:
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Postby halil » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:54 pm

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Nahhh......kopek sounds more appropriate.


i never heard this one but i heard ''Aynasızlar''


You must have been watching too many Turkish movies at Bayrak then..
No one in Cyprus call them "aynasiz"


bayrak doesn't show Turkish movies :wink: mate . u mixed the bayrak with Cinema turk .

what else we call our lovely policemen mate which i never heard before .

it must not suprise for me because u live in Girne republic .
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Postby YFred » Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:11 pm

If you wish to read about Police brutality and corrupt justice system, read below.
Appeal against police acquittals gets underway
By Patrick Dewhurst

ALMOST four years after ten policemen were acquitted of beating two students in Nicosia, the Supreme Court yesterday began its re-examination of the case.

The examination, which has followed an appeal by the Attorney-general's office, will run to the end of the week. By this time the acquittal by the Criminal Court in March 2009, described as a "Black Page in History of Cyprus' Justice" by one victim's father, could be overturned by the Supreme Court.

Speaking from outside the Supreme Court yesterday, Stephanie Polycarpou, a spokeswoman for the group ALERT, said yesterday "The court will be looking at whether the case was conducted fairly, due to the role of the media."

Loucis Loucaides, a ECHR former judge working on behalf of the legal service, began by challenging the Criminal Court's decision, related to the now infamous footage of policemen assaulting the two victims. Since the person who filmed the tape did not come forward for cross examination, it was dismissed as evidence.

"Firstly, during the trial some of the lawyers based their defence on the video, confirming that it was them in the tape. Secondly, based on the undisputed facts and this admission that it is them in the tape, we see policemen failing to intervene in an assault. I have consulted with legal experts throughout Europe and in Canada, who agree this is aiding and abetting by omission.” "In simple terms" he added, "This is complicity."

In the Criminal Court’s decision to acquit the policemen, the judge also criticised the media's coverage of the case, which he said "constituted serious interference in the course of justice and pre-empted the outcome of the trial. At the same time it constitutes usurpation of the judicial authority and contempt of court.

Asked about possible outcomes, Polycarpou said: "The worst case scenario is that the policemen pay a small fine and return to work. We do not want the police to return to work."

Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2009
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Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:57 am

YFred wrote:If you wish to read about Police brutality and corrupt justice system, read below.
Appeal against police acquittals gets underway
By Patrick Dewhurst

ALMOST four years after ten policemen were acquitted of beating two students in Nicosia, the Supreme Court yesterday began its re-examination of the case.

The examination, which has followed an appeal by the Attorney-general's office, will run to the end of the week. By this time the acquittal by the Criminal Court in March 2009, described as a "Black Page in History of Cyprus' Justice" by one victim's father, could be overturned by the Supreme Court.

Speaking from outside the Supreme Court yesterday, Stephanie Polycarpou, a spokeswoman for the group ALERT, said yesterday "The court will be looking at whether the case was conducted fairly, due to the role of the media."

Loucis Loucaides, a ECHR former judge working on behalf of the legal service, began by challenging the Criminal Court's decision, related to the now infamous footage of policemen assaulting the two victims. Since the person who filmed the tape did not come forward for cross examination, it was dismissed as evidence.

"Firstly, during the trial some of the lawyers based their defence on the video, confirming that it was them in the tape. Secondly, based on the undisputed facts and this admission that it is them in the tape, we see policemen failing to intervene in an assault. I have consulted with legal experts throughout Europe and in Canada, who agree this is aiding and abetting by omission.” "In simple terms" he added, "This is complicity."

In the Criminal Court’s decision to acquit the policemen, the judge also criticised the media's coverage of the case, which he said "constituted serious interference in the course of justice and pre-empted the outcome of the trial. At the same time it constitutes usurpation of the judicial authority and contempt of court.

Asked about possible outcomes, Polycarpou said: "The worst case scenario is that the policemen pay a small fine and return to work. We do not want the police to return to work."

Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2009


...yup, in the "corrupt" RoC you get to read about it, no less. If you're a citizen or not, you are allowed an opinion, and whatever may be said it is not ignored, (or dismissed by apologists), but still in the courts.

amazing the editor of Afrika is still alive, don't you think?
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Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:51 am

halil wrote:
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Expatkiwi wrote:
iceman wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:Don't forget that the person must enjoy a steady diet of Coffee and Donuts, and to get used to a new name while on the job: Pig.


TC name for them on the job is kopek (dog) not pig :wink:


In Los Angeles, the LAPD throws back the "PIG" moniker by saying that it stands for PRIDE, INTEGRITY, and GUTS! If the TRNC coppers are called "DOG", would that stand for "Dimwits On Guard"?... :D


Nahhh......kopek sounds more appropriate.


i never heard this one but i heard ''Aynasızlar''


That's what they are known as in Turkey - the 'mirrorless ones'. I have heard two explanations for this:

1 - They do not have to use their mirrors when driving, or

2 - They are so ugly that they cannot look in a mirror.

Any other possible explanations?
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Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:58 am

halil wrote:
to be a policeman in TRNC ....

a) Kuzey Kıbrıs Türk Cumhuriyeti Türk Vatandası olmak.( Should be citizen of TRNC)

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Does this include so-called “gollifa vatandaşlık”?
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Postby insan » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:06 am

Tim Drayton wrote:
halil wrote:
iceman wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
iceman wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:Don't forget that the person must enjoy a steady diet of Coffee and Donuts, and to get used to a new name while on the job: Pig.


TC name for them on the job is kopek (dog) not pig :wink:


In Los Angeles, the LAPD throws back the "PIG" moniker by saying that it stands for PRIDE, INTEGRITY, and GUTS! If the TRNC coppers are called "DOG", would that stand for "Dimwits On Guard"?... :D


Nahhh......kopek sounds more appropriate.


i never heard this one but i heard ''Aynasızlar''


That's what they are known as in Turkey - the 'mirrorless ones'. I have heard two explanations for this:

1 - They do not have to use their mirrors when driving, or

2 - They are so ugly that they cannot look in a mirror.

Any other possible explanations?


Policemen usually known as dour, morose. If they had mirrors to look and see their faces; they too wouldn't like their phiz. The only reason they don't/r not able to change their phiz can be explained as they don't have mirrors to look. So they r mirrorless. :lol:
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Postby YFred » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:24 am

Iceman, how dare you call my mate the Lurucadi Police Chief in Girne a Kopek. When I see him I'll introduce you to him.
Assuming that he has not retired.
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Postby Gregory » Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:01 pm

YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:What’s all this Police bashing… imagine the anarchy without them!

Imagine if 6 of them hospitalised this man. I can't imagine that happening any where else, not even in Turkey. :wink:


Lets play a lttle game. If you can count how may TC policemen are beating this man to death then I'll give you a break from hounding you down for all your hypocritical, biased and down right brainless posts you've been polluting this forum with.

I can't imagine that happening any where else, not even in Turkey




Imagine if 6 of them hospitalised this man


We would be very happy if this man was hospitalised as in your worst case scenario above. Unfortunately he was sent to his death like a few other GC's under TC police custody.
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Postby GeorgeV97qaue » Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:10 pm

halil wrote:
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insan wrote:As far as I know, all policemen of TRNC r Cyprus born TCs either have native TC parents or 1/both parent(s) from Turkey.


Not necessarily anymore!!!


to be a policeman in TRNC ....

a) Kuzey Kıbrıs Türk Cumhuriyeti Türk Vatandası olmak.( Should be citizen of TRNC) and should be Turk .
b) 18 yasını tamamlamıs fakat 30 yasını tamamlamamıs olmak.
between 18-30 years old
Üniversite mezunları için 35 yasını tamamlamamıs olmak.(University graduates up to 35.)
c) Mesleğin gerektirdiği iyi ahlak ve karaktere sahip olmak; kumarbazlık,
sarhosluk ve uyusturucu madde kullanımı gibi kötü alıskanlıkları
olmamak.(should have good character)
d) En az lise veya dengi bir okul mezunu olmak.(at least graduate from LYce or equal level)
(Diplomanın aslı veya Eğitim Bakanlığından tasdikli fotokopisi
ibraz edilmelidir)
e) Askerlik hizmetini yerine getirmis olmak.(completed military service)
f) Sıhhatli olmak ve bedeni bakımdan Polis görevlerine uygun olmak.(Healty , bodily to suit police Work)
g) Boy itibarıyle 1.70 cm'den kısa olmamak. Boy ölçüsünün cm olarak
son iki rakamı ile kilosu arasında 1.75 cm’den yukarı olanlarda 15
kg., 1.75 cm’den kısa olanlarda 10 kg.’dan fazla fark olmayacak.
not less than 1.70 .

h) Yapılacak sınavlarda basarılı olmak.(have to pass exams)
i) Karakterine yansıyan herhangi bir suçtan hapis cezasına çarptırılmamıs
olmak,veya affa uğramıs olsalar dahi rüsvet, hırsızlık, dolandırıcılık,
sahtekarlık, irtikap hileli iflas ırza geçme ve benzeri yüz kızartıcı
suçlardan dolayı hüküm giymemis olmak.
j) Bir disiplin suçundan dolayı daha önce kamu görevinden
uzaklastırılmamıs olmak.

he/she shouldn't have any court case from stealing , blackmaling , crooking , smuggle , etc...etc...

http://www.khk.kamunet.net/docs/polis_munhal_1.pdf


Well Halil that means you cant have any TC policemen as you are all theifs and blackmailers.
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