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[zmx]

The EU is the emerging Superpower. The USA is now limited and in decline.

In order for the EU to ever become a superpower it would be a requirement for all its member states to have a common ground in all major global issues.

when it came to the case of the independence of Kosovo the EU was (and still is) divided with some member states (like the RoC for obvious reasons) opposed to it while others like the UK and France being for it.

ultimately to expect a block of 27 (and increasing) countries to have a common agenda on all affairs is simply impossible.

at the end of the day no country would sacrifice its own interests just to appease the EU.

[Oracle]

The EU is the emerging Superpower. The USA is now limited and in decline.

In order for the EU to ever become a superpower it would be a requirement for all its member states to have a common ground in all major global issues.

when it came to the case of the independence of Kosovo the EU was (and still is) divided with some member states (like the RoC for obvious reasons) opposed to it while others like the UK and France being for it.

ultimately to expect a block of 27 (and increasing) countries to have a common agenda on all affairs is simply impossible.

at the end of the day no country would sacrifice its own interests just to appease the EU.

Obviously you do not understand evolution ...

[Oracle]

BTW ... Pytheas the Greek was the first to Chart Britain over 2,000 years ago and name it .... He described it as a country full of backward 'cave men' eating berries ...

I think the Greeks rejected "Great Britain".

As I have just stumbled across this article today, I thought I'd post it, as I for one was quite surprised at the claim. Although this is after the period you are referring to here, perhaps, just perhaps, ancient Britain was not as backward as we are led to believe.

The documentary also claims Britain was at the forefront of learning and scholarship in the first century AD, particularly in mathematics. And it looks at the maths involved in structures such as Stonehenge and the standing stones in Calanish on the Isle of Lewis, and relates it to mathematics in the Bible, medieval cathedrals and the modern-day credit card.

The 45-minute film will be launched at the British Film Institute in London on Friday.

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/articles.aspx ... =151058316

The "mathematics" wasn't done before erecting the Stones ... it's like saying that the wheel was only invented after they worked out π = 3.142

I would have to see the film to consider the details of the claims in order to comment. One thing is for sure, Stonehenge was a significant achievement and deserves to be acknowledged as such.

There are many hippy-hypotheses trying to glam up the stone circles. The ones which stand up to scrutiny are that they were sites for the worship of the Sun and the Moon ... Which reminds me of Aristophanes' assertion that Greeks worshipped the Olympian Gods whereas barbarians sacrificed to the Sun and the Moon. Although the Greeks were in awe of the Sun, they never actually worshipped this god or built temples in his honour.

So, probably the Greeks knew of the "barbarian" natives of Britain and their stone-circles to the Sun, at the time of Aristophanes. Certainly it was shortly after that when Pytheas actually set off to make naval charts of Pretania (Britain).

Anyway, I'm not mocking the importance of sacred places. I love Stonehenge, and even did a pilgrimage for the Summer Solstice (when I was a hippy student ) ... But my favourite place is Avebury. Although, we did stumble on some relics of a stone circle in Scotland that were particularly atmospheric.

[vaughanwilliams]

Paliometoxic,

Why do you think we colonised your country and not the other way around?

Because your climate is shit and you were always looking for something better?

All had different reasons for "colonising".

.... But I wonder why (along with the Turks) you were amongst the last to build an Empire? Slow development, perhaps? Needed to be shown the ropes by more forward thinking nations?

"forward thinking nations?"
Have you seen a map/chart of what the Greeks and/or Romans thought the known world was? The Brits have rung more sea water out of their socks than the Greeks/Romans ever sailed in.

[Malapapa]

Can you have your pointless and pathetic, 'my Empire was better than your Empire' debate in another thread? What matters here is whether Britain (and Greece forth that matter) can be successfully sued for relinquishing their Guarantor responsibilities.

[Oracle]

Can you have your pointless and pathetic, 'my Empire was better than your Empire' debate in another thread? What matters here is whether Britain (and Greece forth that matter) can be successfully sued for relinquishing their Guarantor responsibilities.

It's all in the line of evidence, Your Honour!

[Oracle]

Paliometoxic,

Why do you think we colonised your country and not the other way around?

Because your climate is shit and you were always looking for something better?

All had different reasons for "colonising".

.... But I wonder why (along with the Turks) you were amongst the last to build an Empire? Slow development, perhaps? Needed to be shown the ropes by more forward thinking nations?

"forward thinking nations?"
Have you seen a map/chart of what the Greeks and/or Romans thought the known world was? The Brits have rung more sea water out of their socks than the Greeks/Romans ever sailed in.

If your "navy" was so glorious, why was it the Greeks who charted Britain, in 300 BCE ?

Your sinking experiences are laughable. Besides, Greeks didn't wear socks with sandals!

[vaughanwilliams]

The Greek navy never went further than Britain because they thought they would fall off the edge of the world.
As to wearing socks with sandals, this is a Great British tradition, I'll remind you!

[Oracle]

The Greek navy never went further than Britain because they thought they would fall off the edge of the world.
As to wearing socks with sandals, this is a Great British tradition, I'll remind you!

Did you ever attend school, vw?

It was the English, up until Tudor times, who believed the Earth was flat! The Greeks were the FIRST to not only describe the Earth as spherical, but also to work out its circumference ...

"The concept of a spherical Earth dates back to around the 6th century BCE in ancient Greek philosophy. It remained a matter of philosophical speculation until the 3rd century BCE when Hellenistic astronomy established the spherical shape of the earth as a physical given."
Wiki

Now go and read some history books because I'm bored with your pre-nursery school knowledge !

[YFred]

The Greek navy never went further than Britain because they thought they would fall off the edge of the world.
As to wearing socks with sandals, this is a Great British tradition, I'll remind you!

What do you mean they thought, surely you meant to say they think?
Even then, it is a big assumption to assume that they actually think?
Don't give them any more credit than they deserve.

GR will confirm!