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[Gasman]

I have no idea what sort of solution would suit some of the GCs and TCs posting on this forum - I cannot imagine them ever living in harmony as they seem to hate each other.

I toured the North of Cyprus this year, between May and September and I met more TCs who resent and dislike the mainland Turkish who are living there than TCs who resent or dislike GCs. I met TCs who blame the current situation re some sort of settlement onto Brits who've bought cheap property over there. Younger Turkish people I met who are there working (mostly in restaurants and hotels) mainly just complained that they were not allowed to travel to the RoC, and others about the very little leave they get in the army compared with soldiers in the RoC. I only met one TC (aged around 30) who said he would 'kill anyone who dishonours my flag' he didn't explain exactly what 'dishonours' meant to him.

My experience of living in Cyprus is that Cypriots in the RoC seem only to go on and on about the events of 1974 and blame all the problems on those, Cypriots who live in the North complain mainly about their current situation re the number of mainland Turks and other foreigners and a number of other things but hardly ever mention 1974 but usually events occurring far earlier than that when it comes to explaining the current situation. And again and again I hear that GCs have nothing against TCs, it's the mainland Turks and the Turkish Army they have a problem with. No one ever seems to speak about the present day or the future.

[vaughanwilliams]

Great Britain, a guarantor power of Cypriot sovereignty, keeps going on and on and on about wanting to help solve the Cyprus problem.

"I urge the Turkish government to honour the commitments that it has already made. We would like to see the ports opened, we'd like to see them making that commitment again and seeing action rather than just words," is the latest statement from Britain's Europe Minister Chris Bryant.

Well, I urge the British government to honour the commitments that it has already made.

O Great Britain, o great nuclear power, how about we see actions from you rather than just words?

Time to put your sovereign bases on Cyprus to good use before they are consigned to the dustbin of history. Time to honour your commitments to Cyprus as you did to Poland in 1939. Time to give Turkey an ultimatum.

"If Her Majesty's Government has not received satisfactory assurances from Turkey, by 25 December 2009, of the withdrawal of its occupying forces from the north of Cyprus, a state of war should exist between Great Britain and Turkey."

Otherwise, shut up... because, after 35 years of renaging on your treaty obligations, your urges towards Turkey are sounding ridiculous.

After the way Cyprus got its independence with EOKA killing Brits, did you really expect them to come to your rescue in 1974?
As for declaring war now, what about your Greek buddies, who are also guarantors?
Of course! They have no more intention of coming to your rescue now than they did in 1974.

[Malapapa]

After the way Cyprus got its independence with EOKA killing Brits, did you really expect them to come to your rescue in 1974?

Stop wriggling with embarrassment at your country's ineptitude and cowardice. Britain's guarantor obligations are crystal clear. There are no provisos. And did you really expect Cyprus not to fight to get its independence? That's what people have to do to tackle injustice. Fight. Like Britain did in 1939 when it could still call itself 'Great'.

As for declaring war now, what about your Greek buddies, who are also guarantors?

There's another thread for our Greek buddies who are also guarantors. Pay attention.

Of course! They have no more intention of coming to your rescue now than they did in 1974.

Then both Britain and Greece are unprincipled scaredy-cats. Shadows of the countries they were during World War 2. What do you want from me?

[Oracle]

Great Britain, a guarantor power of Cypriot sovereignty, keeps going on and on and on about wanting to help solve the Cyprus problem.

"I urge the Turkish government to honour the commitments that it has already made. We would like to see the ports opened, we'd like to see them making that commitment again and seeing action rather than just words," is the latest statement from Britain's Europe Minister Chris Bryant.

Well, I urge the British government to honour the commitments that it has already made.

O Great Britain, o great nuclear power, how about we see actions from you rather than just words?

Time to put your sovereign bases on Cyprus to good use before they are consigned to the dustbin of history. Time to honour your commitments to Cyprus as you did to Poland in 1939. Time to give Turkey an ultimatum.

"If Her Majesty's Government has not received satisfactory assurances from Turkey, by 25 December 2009, of the withdrawal of its occupying forces from the north of Cyprus, a state of war should exist between Great Britain and Turkey."

Otherwise, shut up... because, after 35 years of renaging on your treaty obligations, your urges towards Turkey are sounding ridiculous.

After the way Cyprus got its independence with EOKA killing Brits, did you really expect them to come to your rescue in 1974?

Are you saying GB is a liar? They merely pretended to offer a guarantee?

As for declaring war now, what about your Greek buddies, who are also guarantors?

Unlike GB, they didn't keep permanent Military Bases here and post 1974, GB/US managed to keep them away with their well known combined tactics (such as we see displayed to this day in Afghanistan and Iraq).

Of course! They have no more intention of coming to your rescue now than they did in 1974.

No ... forward planning is the millennial-Hellenic survival tactic. Greece got us into the EU and this is is how we're going to hurt Turkey (and its defunct occupation) the most ...

[Get Real!]

The only time the British get involved is against 3rd world defenseless countries… and only AFTER the US has carpet bombed the place!

[vaughanwilliams]

You should know by now, Britain doesn't start wars - it finishes them.

[Get Real!]

You should know by now, Britain doesn't start wars - it finishes them.

So what’s taking so long in Iraq and Afghanistan?

[vaughanwilliams]

The fact that our European "partners" (Cyprus included) are not pulling their weight.

[paliometoxo]

As for declaring war now, what about your Greek buddies, who are also guarantors?Of course! They have no more intention of coming to your rescue now than they did in 1974.

actually greece did try to help but where stopped. in 1974 they dident just sit back and do nothing

[vaughanwilliams]

How fortunate for them. I bet they took a lot of stopping!!