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[insan]

It is obvious that, lately; somethings urge Talisker to attack TRNC and dignify so-called RoC... is it maybe the Turkish-Kurdish arguements in general chat section? Or u have been badly hurt by any actions of Turkish government? Or u r trying to provoke TCs? Or u have some interests in South or Greece?

The scenario stems from some of the information presented and discussed within the Human rights thread (http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=27433) which, as I explained to Copperline, itself was a result of my curiosity and investigation on the matter, having never been to the northern occupied part myself, but being very familiar with the south. I'm surprised you see this thread as an 'attack' on the TRNC - surely it is an opportunity for TCs to promote their culture and future opportunities in the same way as it is for GCs? After all, for all the political arguments and bickering about historical events, we all want the best for our children, and this theoretical scenario allows us the chance to compare and contrast the possible future lives of 'typical' children in both communities.

If it was what u wished to emphisize u didn't need to define one side as "free and democratic" and the other side as "occupied North"... u clearly give us an impression that u intentionally choose some words to express ur opinions.

There isn't much difference between two sides regarding democracy and human rights. In TRNC, most of the problems arise from economic insufficiencies which is something mainly related with economic embargoes. Thew embargoes badly affect all aspects of life in TRNC. Hope next time u define both sides more rationally by taking into account the circumstances too...

Though if u r a GC or a foreigner who has sympathy to GC cause that's another issue and feel free to define the sides how u wish...

Stop whinging you pussy, Talisker made no attack on TC/Turks.

It's in your thick head, anyone that doesn't bow to you must anti Turk, FFS.

The man is scotish, he asked a reasonable question why you have to turn it into shit again is anyones guess, but then you are a Turk and thats what you do best.

Jesuuusssss!

Shut up wre far-right extremist, guello!

[B25]

It is obvious that, lately; somethings urge Talisker to attack TRNC and dignify so-called RoC... is it maybe the Turkish-Kurdish arguements in general chat section? Or u have been badly hurt by any actions of Turkish government? Or u r trying to provoke TCs? Or u have some interests in South or Greece?

The scenario stems from some of the information presented and discussed within the Human rights thread (http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=27433) which, as I explained to Copperline, itself was a result of my curiosity and investigation on the matter, having never been to the northern occupied part myself, but being very familiar with the south. I'm surprised you see this thread as an 'attack' on the TRNC - surely it is an opportunity for TCs to promote their culture and future opportunities in the same way as it is for GCs? After all, for all the political arguments and bickering about historical events, we all want the best for our children, and this theoretical scenario allows us the chance to compare and contrast the possible future lives of 'typical' children in both communities.

If it was what u wished to emphisize u didn't need to define one side as "free and democratic" and the other side as "occupied North"... u clearly give us an impression that u intentionally choose some words to express ur opinions.

There isn't much difference between two sides regarding democracy and human rights. In TRNC, most of the problems arise from economic insufficiencies which is something mainly related with economic embargoes. Thew embargoes badly affect all aspects of life in TRNC. Hope next time u define both sides more rationally by taking into account the circumstances too...

Though if u r a GC or a foreigner who has sympathy to GC cause that's another issue and feel free to define the sides how u wish...

Stop whinging you pussy, Talisker made no attack on TC/Turks.

It's in your thick head, anyone that doesn't bow to you must anti Turk, FFS.

The man is scotish, he asked a reasonable question why you have to turn it into shit again is anyones guess, but then you are a Turk and thats what you do best.

Jesuuusssss!

Shut up wre far-right extremist, guello!

Insan baby, you know you love me really, right??

'Far-Right Extremist' ha ha I doubt it, I just want you off my Island, can't blame me for that can you now???

Go harrass the Kurds or something, or are they too tough for you? You like to pick on a weaker country a? Makes you heel really hard a??

have a good evening sir.

[insan]

It is obvious that, lately; somethings urge Talisker to attack TRNC and dignify so-called RoC... is it maybe the Turkish-Kurdish arguements in general chat section? Or u have been badly hurt by any actions of Turkish government? Or u r trying to provoke TCs? Or u have some interests in South or Greece?

The scenario stems from some of the information presented and discussed within the Human rights thread (http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=27433) which, as I explained to Copperline, itself was a result of my curiosity and investigation on the matter, having never been to the northern occupied part myself, but being very familiar with the south. I'm surprised you see this thread as an 'attack' on the TRNC - surely it is an opportunity for TCs to promote their culture and future opportunities in the same way as it is for GCs? After all, for all the political arguments and bickering about historical events, we all want the best for our children, and this theoretical scenario allows us the chance to compare and contrast the possible future lives of 'typical' children in both communities.

If it was what u wished to emphisize u didn't need to define one side as "free and democratic" and the other side as "occupied North"... u clearly give us an impression that u intentionally choose some words to express ur opinions.

There isn't much difference between two sides regarding democracy and human rights. In TRNC, most of the problems arise from economic insufficiencies which is something mainly related with economic embargoes. Thew embargoes badly affect all aspects of life in TRNC. Hope next time u define both sides more rationally by taking into account the circumstances too...

Though if u r a GC or a foreigner who has sympathy to GC cause that's another issue and feel free to define the sides how u wish...

Stop whinging you pussy, Talisker made no attack on TC/Turks.

It's in your thick head, anyone that doesn't bow to you must anti Turk, FFS.

The man is scotish, he asked a reasonable question why you have to turn it into shit again is anyones guess, but then you are a Turk and thats what you do best.

Jesuuusssss!

Shut up wre far-right extremist, guello!

Insan baby, you know you love me really, right??

'Far-Right Extremist' ha ha I doubt it, I just want you off my Island, can't blame me for that can you now???

Go harrass the Kurds or something, or are they too tough for you? You like to pick on a weaker country a? Makes you heel really hard a??

have a good evening sir.

U better go play lingiri with ur Hrissi Avgi friends in Greece. Karadzaferis need u there.

[Oracle]

[u didn't need to define one side as "free and democratic" and the other side as "occupied North"... u clearly give us an impression that u intentionally choose some words to express ur opinions.
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And you give the impression of a child raised to cover-up his shortfalls with denials. Wake up, because the rest of Europe has and there is no way someone like you brought up in an occupied territory, stolen from Europeans by backward Asians, is going to convince right-minded Brits, brought up in a free and democratic country, that you are worth listening to as far as seeking the truth goes.

Here's another eye-opening thread, the type Europeans are turning towards as they turn away from your made up Turkish "facts" and "figures".

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=329893

[Talisker]

It is obvious that, lately; somethings urge Talisker to attack TRNC and dignify so-called RoC... is it maybe the Turkish-Kurdish arguements in general chat section? Or u have been badly hurt by any actions of Turkish government? Or u r trying to provoke TCs? Or u have some interests in South or Greece?

The scenario stems from some of the information presented and discussed within the Human rights thread (http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=27433) which, as I explained to Copperline, itself was a result of my curiosity and investigation on the matter, having never been to the northern occupied part myself, but being very familiar with the south. I'm surprised you see this thread as an 'attack' on the TRNC - surely it is an opportunity for TCs to promote their culture and future opportunities in the same way as it is for GCs? After all, for all the political arguments and bickering about historical events, we all want the best for our children, and this theoretical scenario allows us the chance to compare and contrast the possible future lives of 'typical' children in both communities.

If it was what u wished to emphisize u didn't need to define one side as "free and democratic" and the other side as "occupied North"... u clearly give us an impression that u intentionally choose some words to express ur opinions.

There isn't much difference between two sides regarding democracy and human rights. In TRNC, most of the problems arise from economic insufficiencies which is something mainly related with economic embargoes. Thew embargoes badly affect all aspects of life in TRNC. Hope next time u define both sides more rationally by taking into account the circumstances too...

Though if u r a GC or a foreigner who has sympathy to GC cause that's another issue and feel free to define the sides how u wish...

I just find it interesting to consider the future for Spiros and Androulla, Mehmet and Ayse. Do you think Mehmet and Ayse will still be living in Cyprus in 30 years time? If you look at population demographics in the TRNC then looks to me that many within the population choose to leave once they reach adulthood (First table, link below). Or is there another explanation for the increasing decline in numbers from a peak in the 20-24 year age group?
http://www.nufussayimi.devplan.org/Census%202006-3.pdf

Or do the high Turkish settler figures distort the overall trend? These results come from the following site - are the figures genuine?
The Final Results of TRNC General Population and Housing Unit Census
http://www.nufussayimi.devplan.org/index-en.html

If the current demographic trend continues in the north, with presumably the best, most able and ambitious young people leaving, then this must have major implications for the future within the TC community.

What about Spiros and Androulla - are they likely to be leaving Cyprus by the time they are 30?

[insan]

[u didn't need to define one side as "free and democratic" and the other side as "occupied North"... u clearly give us an impression that u intentionally choose some words to express ur opinions.
.

And you give the impression of a child raised to cover-up his shortfalls with denials. Wake up, because the rest of Europe has and there is no way someone like you brought up in an occupied territory, stolen from Europeans by backward Asians, is going to convince right-minded Brits, brought up in a free and democratic country, that you are worth listening to as far as seeking the truth goes.

Here's another eye-opening thread, the type Europeans are turning towards as they turn away from your made up Turkish "facts" and "figures".

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=329893

Ur final cryings, dear... It's been more than 50 years u r making the same dirty propaganda but not going to the point what u desire. Keep contributing to the permenant partition process and accelerate it happens.

[insan]

It is obvious that, lately; somethings urge Talisker to attack TRNC and dignify so-called RoC... is it maybe the Turkish-Kurdish arguements in general chat section? Or u have been badly hurt by any actions of Turkish government? Or u r trying to provoke TCs? Or u have some interests in South or Greece?

The scenario stems from some of the information presented and discussed within the Human rights thread (http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=27433) which, as I explained to Copperline, itself was a result of my curiosity and investigation on the matter, having never been to the northern occupied part myself, but being very familiar with the south. I'm surprised you see this thread as an 'attack' on the TRNC - surely it is an opportunity for TCs to promote their culture and future opportunities in the same way as it is for GCs? After all, for all the political arguments and bickering about historical events, we all want the best for our children, and this theoretical scenario allows us the chance to compare and contrast the possible future lives of 'typical' children in both communities.

If it was what u wished to emphisize u didn't need to define one side as "free and democratic" and the other side as "occupied North"... u clearly give us an impression that u intentionally choose some words to express ur opinions.

There isn't much difference between two sides regarding democracy and human rights. In TRNC, most of the problems arise from economic insufficiencies which is something mainly related with economic embargoes. Thew embargoes badly affect all aspects of life in TRNC. Hope next time u define both sides more rationally by taking into account the circumstances too...

Though if u r a GC or a foreigner who has sympathy to GC cause that's another issue and feel free to define the sides how u wish...

I just find it interesting to consider the future for Spiros and Androulla, Mehmet and Ayse. Do you think Mehmet and Ayse will still be living in Cyprus in 30 years time? If you look at population demographics in the TRNC then looks to me that many within the population choose to leave once they reach adulthood (First table, link below). Or is there another explanation for the increasing decline in numbers from a peak in the 20-24 year age group?
http://www.nufussayimi.devplan.org/Census%202006-3.pdf

Or do the high Turkish settler figures distort the overall trend? These results come from the following site - are the figures genuine?
The Final Results of TRNC General Population and Housing Unit Census
http://www.nufussayimi.devplan.org/index-en.html

If the current demographic trend continues in the north, with presumably the best, most able and ambitious young people leaving, then this must have major implications for the future within the TC community.

What about Spiros and Androulla - are they likely to be leaving Cyprus by the time they are 30?

Talisker, right in the begining of British Rule 10.000 TCs emigrated from Cyprus to Turkey... In the begining of the British Rule, 1/3 of Cyprus population constituted by TCs. Emigration of TCs continued during the British rule, increased in the years intercommunal crisis started and continued even after 1974 because of mainly economic conditions of North...

Those who r in partisanship/nepotists circles have fairly good life conditions and they usually happy with it. Though some of them went abroad(mainly Turkey and Britain) for university education and most of them didn't return. However, most of them wish to return when retired or there is suitable circumstances in North.

There r hundreds or maybe thousands of British, Australian TC families who returned North and permenantly settled down. In case of the solution of Cyprus problem be it reunification or 2 seperate state, the return of TCs from abroad will accelerate.

TC emigration is not mainly related with settlers in North. It's mainly related with bad economic conditions and bad administration of TRNC.

[Oracle]

It is obvious that, lately; somethings urge Talisker to attack TRNC and dignify so-called RoC... is it maybe the Turkish-Kurdish arguements in general chat section? Or u have been badly hurt by any actions of Turkish government? Or u r trying to provoke TCs? Or u have some interests in South or Greece?

The scenario stems from some of the information presented and discussed within the Human rights thread (http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=27433) which, as I explained to Copperline, itself was a result of my curiosity and investigation on the matter, having never been to the northern occupied part myself, but being very familiar with the south. I'm surprised you see this thread as an 'attack' on the TRNC - surely it is an opportunity for TCs to promote their culture and future opportunities in the same way as it is for GCs? After all, for all the political arguments and bickering about historical events, we all want the best for our children, and this theoretical scenario allows us the chance to compare and contrast the possible future lives of 'typical' children in both communities.

If it was what u wished to emphisize u didn't need to define one side as "free and democratic" and the other side as "occupied North"... u clearly give us an impression that u intentionally choose some words to express ur opinions.

There isn't much difference between two sides regarding democracy and human rights. In TRNC, most of the problems arise from economic insufficiencies which is something mainly related with economic embargoes. Thew embargoes badly affect all aspects of life in TRNC. Hope next time u define both sides more rationally by taking into account the circumstances too...

Though if u r a GC or a foreigner who has sympathy to GC cause that's another issue and feel free to define the sides how u wish...

I just find it interesting to consider the future for Spiros and Androulla, Mehmet and Ayse. Do you think Mehmet and Ayse will still be living in Cyprus in 30 years time? If you look at population demographics in the TRNC then looks to me that many within the population choose to leave once they reach adulthood (First table, link below). Or is there another explanation for the increasing decline in numbers from a peak in the 20-24 year age group?
http://www.nufussayimi.devplan.org/Census%202006-3.pdf

Or do the high Turkish settler figures distort the overall trend? These results come from the following site - are the figures genuine?
The Final Results of TRNC General Population and Housing Unit Census
http://www.nufussayimi.devplan.org/index-en.html

If the current demographic trend continues in the north, with presumably the best, most able and ambitious young people leaving, then this must have major implications for the future within the TC community.

What about Spiros and Androulla - are they likely to be leaving Cyprus by the time they are 30?

Talisker, right in the begining of British Rule 10.000 TCs emigrated from Cyprus to Turkey... In the begining of the British Rule, 1/3 of Cyprus population constituted by TCs.

Of course there was a time when the TCs were Zero ...

Emigration of TCs continued during the British rule, increased in the years intercommunal crisis started and continued even after 1974 because of mainly economic conditions of North...

Here are the population numbers of TCs which show that the number of TCs did not go down in the mid 60's as most TCs would like to portray (to blame the RoC) ...




From: http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 24&start=0

[insan]

Yeah... there was also a time when GCs were zero...

[Oracle]

Yeah... there was also a time when GCs were zero...

In prehistoric times maybe ... but since records began there were times (thousands of years in fact) when the GCs were 100% .... [one day, again]