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Postby Acikgoz » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:20 pm

"ITS ALL MINE" cried the Oracle of Greek Cypriots "ALL MINE I TELL YOU"
Then mumbled a few words no one could quite understand and went back to dreaming of fields of innocents being tortured, grinned, farted and went back to sleep in the noon sun....

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Postby Oracle » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:25 pm

YFred wrote:
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YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Acikgoz wrote:It's the rent they've paid to keep Turkish and Greek Cypriots safe. Now the proof is in the pudding - pretty much zero violence since 1974 - that's humanitarian.

Casualties while serving on the demarcation line (1976..1996)

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... morial.htm

Acikgoz wrote:I wonder if now the Turkish defense has figured out that it has to question the legitimacy of titles presented to the ECHR such as Vakif land in the first hearing - nothing like winning the lottery with someone else's ticket.

Land ownership on Cyprus in July 1974…

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle11.htm

I wonder how many more stupid things you're going to come up with before you realize how little you know about Cyprus and that you should do more READING than posting…

Your Links are just like your brain, redundant. Never mind hey GR we know it is going to claim that TCs only own 12%. Ha Ha and a double HHHHHAAAAAAA


The TCs own nothing ... it all belongs to the RoC.

I have a piece of paper and something else that is made of metal that says it belongs to me. Whatch a gon a do about it.


The paper is all yours!
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:49 pm

Acikgoz wrote:"ITS ALL MINE" cried the Oracle of Greek Cypriots "ALL MINE I TELL YOU"
Then mumbled a few words no one could quite understand and went back to dreaming of fields of innocents being tortured, grinned, farted and went back to sleep in the noon sun....

You junk post is better suited for the C44 methane factory so be patient and it’ll open up again once they clear up all your previous crap.
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Postby Acikgoz » Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:11 am

Get a Life, you admitted yet to Turkish Cypriopt Football Association was running well before Turkey, even before 1960?

At present only vapours are coming from you. I'd advise taking a shower, using some deodorant for once and try coming to work with a more positive attitude. You'll smell better and feel better. Ah but then again, if you are more understanding and allow the information to sink in then you'll get in trouble with your boss who pays you to promulgate the maliciousness. Guess you should just stay stinky. Why change a broken record, the record doesn't care.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:21 am

Acikgoz wrote:Get a Life, you admitted yet to Turkish Cypriopt Football Association was running well before Turkey, even before 1960?

At present only vapours are coming from you. I'd advise taking a shower, using some deodorant for once and try coming to work with a more positive attitude. You'll smell better and feel better. Ah but then again, if you are more understanding and allow the information to sink in then you'll get in trouble with your boss who pays you to promulgate the maliciousness. Guess you should just stay stinky. Why change a broken record, the record doesn't care.


And, what was the attraction for you joining this forum? :?

We don't need any (murderous) Turkish football hooligans so bugger off!
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Postby YFred » Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:47 am

Oracle wrote:
Acikgoz wrote:Get a Life, you admitted yet to Turkish Cypriopt Football Association was running well before Turkey, even before 1960?

At present only vapours are coming from you. I'd advise taking a shower, using some deodorant for once and try coming to work with a more positive attitude. You'll smell better and feel better. Ah but then again, if you are more understanding and allow the information to sink in then you'll get in trouble with your boss who pays you to promulgate the maliciousness. Guess you should just stay stinky. Why change a broken record, the record doesn't care.


And, what was the attraction for you joining this forum? :?

We don't need any (murderous) Turkish football hooligans so bugger off!
Hissssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

That told hem. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:35 am

Acikgoz wrote:It's funny how perhaps only 1 in 20 posts are of any significance... Doesn't everyone get bored with regurgitating the same cliches?
In the meantime tks again, perhaps there is something of use on this site.

Bill interesting on the Sofi v Cyprus too. Haven't read up on that.
If current EU direction is anything to go by I am sure we can expect an impartial fair assessment on the judgement.

Re. amounts, 1.2bn?
Will be interesting to see how it transpires given article 41 seems to be the outstanding issue.
But really not significant in the big scheme of things.
If you think how much the affair has cost Turkey directly and indirectly then it really is chicken feed. It's the rent they've paid to keep Turkish and Greek Cypriots safe. Now the proof is in the pudding - pretty much zero violence since 1974 - that's humanitarian.

I wonder if now the Turkish defense has figured out that it has to question the legitimacy of titles presented to the ECHR such as Vakif land in the first hearing - nothing like winning the lottery with someone else's ticket.


...you can't be serious Aci, look around you in the countries surrounding this region, even in mighty Turkey, so much violence; it is not the Turkish Army that stops the mayhem here on this island, but the island dwellers themselves, who show respect for the Rule of Law, Grace, and tolerance on a Human level.

...what about Vakif land, are you condoning the theft of "Greek" land because you allege "Turkish" land was stolen? Still a poor reflection on the State which claims to being here to protect the interests of (now) "Turks" in Cyprus.

...save the little speech for the cafe where everything is embargoed; you should be grateful living here, rather than any one of the respective "motherlands".
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Postby bill cobbett » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:33 pm

Turkey found guilty at the ECHR again yesterday 24.11.09.

From the ECHR site, Hudoc database ....

FOURTH SECTION
CASE OF ANTHOUSA IORDANOU v. TURKEY
(Application no. 46755/99)
JUDGMENT
(merits)
STRASBOURG
24 November 2009

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Turkey found guilty of denying the appelants their rights to several plots of land in or near the village of Lapithos.

The Property Commission Scam again not seen as effective local
remedy.

As usual the "judge" from Turkey, Karakiosis, was the sole dissenting opinion.
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Postby YFred » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:37 pm

bill cobbett wrote:Turkey found guilty at the ECHR again yesterday 24.11.09.

From the ECHR site, Hudoc database ....

FOURTH SECTION
CASE OF ANTHOUSA IORDANOU v. TURKEY
(Application no. 46755/99)
JUDGMENT
(merits)
STRASBOURG
24 November 2009

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Turkey found guilty of denying the appelants their rights to several plots of land in or near the village of Lapithos.

The Property Commission Scam again not seen as effective local
remedy.

As usual the "judge" from Turkey, Karakiosis, was the sole dissenting opinion.

Do your job properly. How many of them have been paid by Turkey?
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Postby Acikgoz » Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:59 pm

With respect repulse,

I do not defend any nation that condones violence. No country in the region hasn't gotten their hands dirty at one stage or another. I do not condone the theft of any land. But before land comes life in my book, TCs did not end up with any more land than they have left behind.

The situation is not easy, compromise is necessary on both sides if there is to be any healing, BUT

what anyone really observing can see in the animosity continually shown by GCs even pre-1974 towards TCs and continues to be perpetuated by freaks like Oracle and Get Real, Aopel FC, the Church, and every action taken by the GC govt, they are a real danger to life and freedom of TCs.

Can anyone honestly say the TCs have the same bloodlust vis-a-vis the other side of the border? Think how much time and energy TCs place into defending themselves, they are truly passive in comparison. Manyana is the mantra - or technically "gorelim."

Unsure but trusting, they voted yes in 2004.

I look at the ECHR judgements and see the TCs couldn't even muster the intelligence to protest to the quality of the title for which the GC plaintifs are suing - and trying to introduce it at a later stage is simply being rejected by the court.

By looking at the cumulative actions of the GCs they show themselves to be calculating manipulative neighbours. How can you both have lost your land (like the GCs) and have your rights usurped (unlike the GCS)and yet find yourself under embargoes (unlike the GCS) - and or the mad ones that want to lash out at Turkey again, the isolation did not start in 1974 with Turkey intervening, they were placed by GCs on TCs years before!

It's no speech, I respect the Greek people I meet from Athens, I laughed when they shared their view that Papad was a maniac. Turkey another country I respect. Both nations are getting on, buying companies in each others countries, finding ways of working together, learning each others' languages and compromising despite their various issues.

It is a curse but I love my country and my people are beautiful, they have suffered much and continue to suffer, but at least they are alive. God help us if we fall into the hands of GCs again as every action they take is the action only your worst enemy would take.
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