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Re: Time to focus on the positive aspects of a solution

Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:19 pm

YFred wrote:Now look here old chap, I am not in search of the devil, it's the 72 virgin angels I am after.

Do you honestly think that you’re coming up with anything interesting or anything that supports or counters any of the arguments in the CyProb section of the forum? :?

Get your act together because your contributions to the CyProb are just childish RUBBISH!

Grow up, and stop making a fool of yourself because nobody wants to read your trash!
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Re: Time to focus on the positive aspects of a solution

Postby YFred » Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:15 pm

Get Real! wrote:
YFred wrote:Now look here old chap, I am not in search of the devil, it's the 72 virgin angels I am after.

Do you honestly think that you’re coming up with anything interesting or anything that supports or counters any of the arguments in the CyProb section of the forum? :?

Get your act together because your contributions to the CyProb are just childish RUBBISH!

Grow up, and stop making a fool of yourself because nobody wants to read your trash!

Have you ever been a school teacher? well you are bloody awful at it. Why are you picking on me? is it because I is black?

When I need your advice, I shall ask for it, I am not proud. But till then I think you know what to do with it old chap. :lol: :lol:
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Postby Expatkiwi » Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:53 am

Good solution: recognize TRNC on the basis of 25% land total of the island and removal of all foreign forces. Eventually, the trade and removal of tension by such a move will promte an eventual reconciliation between the two sides and the island will live hapilly ever after...
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:09 am

Expatkiwi wrote:Good solution: recognize TRNC on the basis of 25% land total of the island and removal of all foreign forces. Eventually, the trade and removal of tension by such a move will promte an eventual reconciliation between the two sides and the island will live hapilly ever after...


If the TCs want permanent partition and recognition, then they will need to propose this at the negotiations. The property issue will need to be dealt with, and the TCs will need to offer an 80/20 split for it to have any chance at a referendum. Then, the people will have their say!

I am under the impression that the TCs don't want this, because it will be their end and they know it. A Turkic state in Cyprus has no room for the TCs and Turkey has certainly shown this over the last 35 years....hence why the TCs don't offer partition with "acceptable/fair" terms as an option to the Cyprus Problem.

Actions speak louder than words... :lol:
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Postby YFred » Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:52 am

Paphitis wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:Good solution: recognize TRNC on the basis of 25% land total of the island and removal of all foreign forces. Eventually, the trade and removal of tension by such a move will promte an eventual reconciliation between the two sides and the island will live hapilly ever after...


If the TCs want permanent partition and recognition, then they will need to propose this at the negotiations. The property issue will need to be dealt with, and the TCs will need to offer an 80/20 split for it to have any chance at a referendum. Then, the people will have their say!

I am under the impression that the TCs don't want this, because it will be their end and they know it. A Turkic state in Cyprus has no room for the TCs and Turkey has certainly shown this over the last 35 years....hence why the TCs don't offer partition with "acceptable/fair" terms as an option to the Cyprus Problem.

Actions speak louder than words... :lol:

You keep insisting on 20%. You will have the solution you deserve.
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Postby Gregory » Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:04 pm

YFred wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:Good solution: recognize TRNC on the basis of 25% land total of the island and removal of all foreign forces. Eventually, the trade and removal of tension by such a move will promte an eventual reconciliation between the two sides and the island will live hapilly ever after...


If the TCs want permanent partition and recognition, then they will need to propose this at the negotiations. The property issue will need to be dealt with, and the TCs will need to offer an 80/20 split for it to have any chance at a referendum. Then, the people will have their say!

I am under the impression that the TCs don't want this, because it will be their end and they know it. A Turkic state in Cyprus has no room for the TCs and Turkey has certainly shown this over the last 35 years....hence why the TCs don't offer partition with "acceptable/fair" terms as an option to the Cyprus Problem.

Actions speak louder than words... :lol:

You keep insisting on 20%. You will have the solution you deserve.


And you will remain in the situation you deserve, between bankruptcy and extinction.
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Postby YFred » Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:10 pm

Gregory wrote:
YFred wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:Good solution: recognize TRNC on the basis of 25% land total of the island and removal of all foreign forces. Eventually, the trade and removal of tension by such a move will promte an eventual reconciliation between the two sides and the island will live hapilly ever after...


If the TCs want permanent partition and recognition, then they will need to propose this at the negotiations. The property issue will need to be dealt with, and the TCs will need to offer an 80/20 split for it to have any chance at a referendum. Then, the people will have their say!

I am under the impression that the TCs don't want this, because it will be their end and they know it. A Turkic state in Cyprus has no room for the TCs and Turkey has certainly shown this over the last 35 years....hence why the TCs don't offer partition with "acceptable/fair" terms as an option to the Cyprus Problem.

Actions speak louder than words... :lol:

You keep insisting on 20%. You will have the solution you deserve.


And you will remain in the situation you deserve, between bankruptcy and extinction.

So will you, I am glad to say. However, you are wrong, after the next no, it will change.
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Postby Malapapa » Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:02 pm

YFred, can you explained why you opened this "Time to Focus on the Positive Aspects of a solution" thread, when, on closer inspection - after actually taking time to focus on the contents of the article - you don't even agree with the suggestions made?

Do you concur with Bananoit that it is an "excellent and timely intervention by Orphanides" or not?
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Postby YFred » Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:10 pm

Malapapa wrote:YFred, can you explained why you opened this "Time to Focus on the Positive Aspects of a solution" thread, when, on closer inspection - after actually taking time to focus on the contents of the article - you don't even agree with the suggestions made?

Do you concur with Bananoit that it is an "excellent and timely intervention by Orphanides" or not?

I have never disagreed with Bananiot on anything up to this point. Secondly, I agree with most of the points this article makes accept the economic barriers point. The TRNC economy is so week that it has to be protected and even helped by the RoC if the GCs are genuine in their effort for unification, like the West Germans were with the east. How long and how much I leave to the economists.
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Postby Malapapa » Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:29 pm

YFred wrote:I have never disagreed with Bananiot on anything up to this point. Secondly, I agree with most of the points this article makes accept the economic barriers point.


But removing economic barriers WAS the point of the article:

Orphanides’ comments could prove doubly useful if they were also taken on board by the Turkish Cypriot side which still seems to support the idea of certain economic barriers being in place after a settlement.


You see, YFred, I don't think you read it properly. Just the headline.

Which just shows that your criticism about forumers "concentrating on the detail and missing the big picture" was flawed.
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