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[YFred]

I think somebody crossed you wires somewhere along the line. I would't call Varosha a glass of milk compared to the rest of Cyprus?
But if it's a cow you need, there is one in Poly. What do you want two for.

If you thing that you're funny ....hm, I don't want to disappoint you.

I will give you a hint: the glass of milk is not Varosi ...and another one: the cow is definitely not Cyprus.

Now I am confused. So which is the milk and which is the cOw?
Is the cOw the megali ithea? and Cyprus the milk?

[RAFAELLA]

I think somebody crossed you wires somewhere along the line. I would't call Varosha a glass of milk compared to the rest of Cyprus?
But if it's a cow you need, there is one in Poly. What do you want two for.

If you thing that you're funny ....hm, I don't want to disappoint you.

I will give you a hint: the glass of milk is not Varosi ...and another one: the cow is definitely not Cyprus.

Now I am confused. So which is the milk and which is the cOw?
Is the cOw the megali ithea? and Cyprus the milk?

... it seems that those who are stuck in megali idea are the Turks and not the Greeks!

[YFred]

I think somebody crossed you wires somewhere along the line. I would't call Varosha a glass of milk compared to the rest of Cyprus?
But if it's a cow you need, there is one in Poly. What do you want two for.

If you thing that you're funny ....hm, I don't want to disappoint you.

I will give you a hint: the glass of milk is not Varosi ...and another one: the cow is definitely not Cyprus.

Now I am confused. So which is the milk and which is the cOw?
Is the cOw the megali ithea? and Cyprus the milk?

... it seems that those who are stuck in megali idea are the Turks and not the Greeks!

DP

[YFred]

I think somebody crossed you wires somewhere along the line. I would't call Varosha a glass of milk compared to the rest of Cyprus?
But if it's a cow you need, there is one in Poly. What do you want two for.

If you thing that you're funny ....hm, I don't want to disappoint you.

I will give you a hint: the glass of milk is not Varosi ...and another one: the cow is definitely not Cyprus.

Now I am confused. So which is the milk and which is the cOw?
Is the cOw the megali ithea? and Cyprus the milk?

... it seems that those who are stuck in megali idea are the Turks and not the Greeks!

Well you may well say that, but it's only greeks on this forum that keep talking about Cyprus and Turkey is greek and they are going to take it back. As a TC I have no other ambition, like you I just want my land and I would like to say get on with our lives which applies to my family in Cyprus, I personally have made a good life in London. So I think it is a little exaggerated to say that the Turks have a megali Ithea, certainly they will protect their economic interests in the med.
We have to learn to live and let live, otherwise it will lead to war and with war nobody wins.

[RAFAELLA]

Well you may well say that, but it's only greeks on this forum that keep talking about Cyprus and Turkey is greek and they are going to take it back. -Well, if you go back in history the Greek presence on the island is dating back to 1100 BC, so, I guess this doesn't make Cyprus Japanese, does it?- As a TC I have no other ambition -You may have no ambition as a Tc but your motherland definitely has- , like you I just want my land -You can have your land any time you want, CyR didn't usurp your land, CyR didn't sell your land to foreighners etc. Here is our deference, your land is safeguarded and nobody deny's that you are the legal owner whereas my land is occupied by turkish troops-Turkey which deny the fact that I am the legal owner and has no right to sell it. Not only that, Turkey violates one of my basic human rights by denying access to my own property- and I would like to say get on with our lives which applies to my family in Cyprus, I personally have made a good life in London. So I think it is a little exagurated to say that the Turks have a megali Ithea, certainly they will protect their economic interests in the med. -Their interests in the Med? You mean their illegalities in the Med.-We have to learn to live and let live, otherwise it will lead to war and with war nobody wins.

[YFred]

Well you may well say that, but it's only greeks on this forum that keep talking about Cyprus and Turkey is greek and they are going to take it back. -Well, if you go back in history the Greek presence on the island is dating back to 1100 BC, so, I guess this doesn't make Cyprus Japanese, does it?- As a TC I have no other ambition -You may have no ambition as a Tc but your motherland definitely has- , like you I just want my land -You can have your land any time you want, CyR didn't usurp your land, CyR didn't sell your land to foreighners etc. Here is our deference, your land is safeguarded and nobody deny's that you are the legal owner whereas my land is occupied by turkish troops-Turkey which deny the fact that I am the legal owner and has no right to sell it. Not only that, Turkey violates one of my basic human rights by denying access to my own property- and I would like to say get on with our lives which applies to my family in Cyprus, I personally have made a good life in London. So I think it is a little exagurated to say that the Turks have a megali Ithea, certainly they will protect their economic interests in the med. -Their interests in the Med? You mean their illegalities in the Med.-We have to learn to live and let live, otherwise it will lead to war and with war nobody wins.

You see that is where your argument falls appart. You can't go back 5 years never mind 1000 years. It's about today, and tomorrow not yesterday.
I fail to see what difference it makes to you holding my land, safeguarding it but not giving it back. There is really no difference. With peace agreement, most people will get what they want.
But not all. If you want all, nobody will get anything.
Yes med interests. Turkey has a thousand mile med coast and will claim some of the minerals and has the power to do so. If you don't play ball, like Greece you will not get to them either. You either grow up and share or you behave like a spoilt child and loose all.
It's very simple.

[RAFAELLA]

You see that is where your argument falls appart. You can't go back 5 years never mind 1000 years. It's about today, and tomorrow not yesterday. -When it suits you, "it's today and tomorrow". With your logic of "today and tomorrow", you imply that nothing belongs to Gcs in the occupied areas. Ridiculous!-
I fail to see what difference it makes to you holding my land, safeguarding it but not giving it back. -No you do not fail, you deliberately fail to see the difference. Did you apply to the CyR in order to get your land back? Your land is there and nobody denies it belongs to you. This is what you deliberately fail to see. What about our properties in the occupied areas? Well? You brought all those gypsies from Anatolia, you baptize them Cypriots! you gave them OUR properties together with title deeds! You took OUR land and you sold it to foreigners! - There is really no difference. -No difference?! You are kidding me right? ECHR and International law have different opinion.- With peace agreement, most people will get what they want.
But not all. If you want all, nobody will get anything.
Yes med interests. Turkey has a thousand mile med coast and will claim some of the minerals and has the power to do so. -This is your problem, you count everything on your power and you bypass international law. Illegalities is your specialty. Turkey has no authority over CyR waters according to international law.- If you don't play ball, like Greece you will not get to them either. You either grow up and share or you behave like a spoilt child and loose all.
It's very simple. -Actually everything is very simple, follow international law, UN resolutions, ECHR decisions, get rid of your Rambo attitude and everything will be solved.-

[RAFAELLA]

You see that is where your argument falls appart. You can't go back 5 years never mind 1000 years. It's about today, and tomorrow not yesterday. -When it suits you, "it's today and tomorrow". With your logic of "today and tomorrow", you imply that nothing belongs to Gcs in the occupied areas. Ridiculous!-
I fail to see what difference it makes to you holding my land, safeguarding it but not giving it back. -No you do not fail, you deliberately fail to see the difference. Did you apply to the CyR in order to get your land back? Your land is there and nobody denies it belongs to you. This is what you deliberately fail to see. What about our properties in the occupied areas? Well? You brought all those gypsies from Anatolia, you baptize them Cypriots! you gave them OUR properties together with title deeds! You took OUR land and you sold it to foreigners! - There is really no difference. -No difference?! You are kidding me right? ECHR and International law have different opinion.- With peace agreement, most people will get what they want.
But not all. If you want all, nobody will get anything.
Yes med interests. Turkey has a thousand mile med coast and will claim some of the minerals and has the power to do so. -This is your problem, you count everything on your power and you bypass international law. Illegalities is your specialty. Turkey has no authority over CyR waters according to international law.- If you don't play ball, like Greece you will not get to them either. You either grow up and share or you behave like a spoilt child and loose all.
It's very simple. -Actually everything is very simple, follow international law, UN resolutions, ECHR decisions, get rid of your Rambo attitude and everything will be solved.-

I'm sure you understand the difference YFred, thus, you have nothing to say. I'm glad

[YFred]

You see that is where your argument falls appart. You can't go back 5 years never mind 1000 years. It's about today, and tomorrow not yesterday. -When it suits you, "it's today and tomorrow". With your logic of "today and tomorrow", you imply that nothing belongs to Gcs in the occupied areas. Ridiculous!-
I fail to see what difference it makes to you holding my land, safeguarding it but not giving it back. -No you do not fail, you deliberately fail to see the difference. Did you apply to the CyR in order to get your land back? Your land is there and nobody denies it belongs to you. This is what you deliberately fail to see. What about our properties in the occupied areas? Well? You brought all those gypsies from Anatolia, you baptize them Cypriots! you gave them OUR properties together with title deeds! You took OUR land and you sold it to foreigners! - There is really no difference. -No difference?! You are kidding me right? ECHR and International law have different opinion.- With peace agreement, most people will get what they want.
But not all. If you want all, nobody will get anything.
Yes med interests. Turkey has a thousand mile med coast and will claim some of the minerals and has the power to do so. -This is your problem, you count everything on your power and you bypass international law. Illegalities is your specialty. Turkey has no authority over CyR waters according to international law.- If you don't play ball, like Greece you will not get to them either. You either grow up and share or you behave like a spoilt child and loose all.
It's very simple. -Actually everything is very simple, follow international law, UN resolutions, ECHR decisions, get rid of your Rambo attitude and everything will be solved.-

I'm sure you understand the difference YFred, thus, you have nothing to say. I'm glad

That's what I am here for, so long as you are happy, I am too.

[RAFAELLA]

That's what I am here for, so long as you are happy, I am too.

Good to see people learning through discusssion.