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Postby Malapapa » Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:52 pm

YFred wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
YFred wrote:
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By 'they' you mean Nikos Sampson et al. Your (4) then could be part related to (2). But why, otherwise, would Sampson et al have 'wider support from the general population' than TMT?

Because a higher percentage of GCs believed in enosis than TCs in Taksim. In all the years I lived in Cyprus, I have never heard anybody talk about the merits of Taksim and why we should join Turkey in person, not even in school. I wonder how many GCs can say that.
The talk was generally that TCs in enclaves were like sitting duck to the GCs and how best to protect them.

Even to this day with the settlers, given the choice of Cyprus in the EU or join Turkey, I believe they would vote for the first one.


Cypriots on either side are not that different. The main reason GCs hankered for enosis was to be part of something bigger, something European; to avoid falling into Turkey's clutches.

We have a different impression from Miltiades, the GCs at the time saw the Greeks as superior because of their language and culture. He was involved with eoka pre 60 as a kid and gave us a good background on GC mentality at the time. I don't remember anybody else ever saying that GCs fear was as you describe it. Can anybody else shed some light on this thought?


This isn't a new revelation. After so many years of colonial rule, escape once and for all from Britain, Turkey or any other regional power, was the goal. Union with superior Greece provided that escape.
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Postby YFred » Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:54 pm

insan wrote:
YFred wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
YFred wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
By 'they' you mean Nikos Sampson et al. Your (4) then could be part related to (2). But why, otherwise, would Sampson et al have 'wider support from the general population' than TMT?

Because a higher percentage of GCs believed in enosis than TCs in Taksim. In all the years I lived in Cyprus, I have never heard anybody talk about the merits of Taksim and why we should join Turkey in person, not even in school. I wonder how many GCs can say that.
The talk was generally that TCs in enclaves were like sitting duck to the GCs and how best to protect them.

Even to this day with the settlers, given the choice of Cyprus in the EU or join Turkey, I believe they would vote for the first one.


Cypriots on either side are not that different. The main reason GCs hankered for enosis was to be part of something bigger, something European; to avoid falling into Turkey's clutches.

We have a different impression from Miltiades, the GCs at the time saw the Greeks as superior because of their language and culture. He was involved with eoka pre 60 as a kid and gave us a good background on GC mentality at the time. I don't remember anybody else ever saying that GCs fear was as you describe it. Can anybody else shed some light on this thought?


Nah! IQ test result zero again! :lol: GC taught "together we r strong"; it didn't really matter whether Greece was in Europe or Africa... neither did it matter it was big or not... "together we r strong"... remember who led GCs to Enosis idea? Priests? They were well aware of "Megali Idea" eh? Together they would be strong like together we would be strong with Turkey.

I agree, that is how I understand Hellenism to mean. The Megali idea to create all the old Greek Empire one more time. Fat chance as the old saying goes.
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Postby Malapapa » Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:58 pm

YFred wrote:
insan wrote:
YFred wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
YFred wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
By 'they' you mean Nikos Sampson et al. Your (4) then could be part related to (2). But why, otherwise, would Sampson et al have 'wider support from the general population' than TMT?

Because a higher percentage of GCs believed in enosis than TCs in Taksim. In all the years I lived in Cyprus, I have never heard anybody talk about the merits of Taksim and why we should join Turkey in person, not even in school. I wonder how many GCs can say that.
The talk was generally that TCs in enclaves were like sitting duck to the GCs and how best to protect them.

Even to this day with the settlers, given the choice of Cyprus in the EU or join Turkey, I believe they would vote for the first one.


Cypriots on either side are not that different. The main reason GCs hankered for enosis was to be part of something bigger, something European; to avoid falling into Turkey's clutches.

We have a different impression from Miltiades, the GCs at the time saw the Greeks as superior because of their language and culture. He was involved with eoka pre 60 as a kid and gave us a good background on GC mentality at the time. I don't remember anybody else ever saying that GCs fear was as you describe it. Can anybody else shed some light on this thought?


Nah! IQ test result zero again! :lol: GC taught "together we r strong"; it didn't really matter whether Greece was in Europe or Africa... neither did it matter it was big or not... "together we r strong"... remember who led GCs to Enosis idea? Priests? They were well aware of "Megali Idea" eh? Together they would be strong like together we would be strong with Turkey.

I agree, that is how I understand Hellenism to mean. The Megali idea to create all the old Greek Empire one more time. Fat chance as the old saying goes.


Don't confuse priests with people guys.
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Postby Oracle » Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:58 pm

YFred wrote:
insan wrote:
YFred wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
YFred wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
By 'they' you mean Nikos Sampson et al. Your (4) then could be part related to (2). But why, otherwise, would Sampson et al have 'wider support from the general population' than TMT?

Because a higher percentage of GCs believed in enosis than TCs in Taksim. In all the years I lived in Cyprus, I have never heard anybody talk about the merits of Taksim and why we should join Turkey in person, not even in school. I wonder how many GCs can say that.
The talk was generally that TCs in enclaves were like sitting duck to the GCs and how best to protect them.

Even to this day with the settlers, given the choice of Cyprus in the EU or join Turkey, I believe they would vote for the first one.


Cypriots on either side are not that different. The main reason GCs hankered for enosis was to be part of something bigger, something European; to avoid falling into Turkey's clutches.

We have a different impression from Miltiades, the GCs at the time saw the Greeks as superior because of their language and culture. He was involved with eoka pre 60 as a kid and gave us a good background on GC mentality at the time. I don't remember anybody else ever saying that GCs fear was as you describe it. Can anybody else shed some light on this thought?


Nah! IQ test result zero again! :lol: GC taught "together we r strong"; it didn't really matter whether Greece was in Europe or Africa... neither did it matter it was big or not... "together we r strong"... remember who led GCs to Enosis idea? Priests? They were well aware of "Megali Idea" eh? Together they would be strong like together we would be strong with Turkey.

I agree, that is how I understand Hellenism to mean. The Megali idea to create all the old Greek Empire one more time. Fat chance as the old saying goes.


Shut up you ignorant twit and stop imparting your stupid outlook on everyone else.

The majority of Cypriots are Hellenic and association with Greece has nothing to do with big ideas or old empires but merely re-connecting with natural ties.

The unnatural cuckoos in the nest are you Turks!
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Postby YFred » Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:03 am

Oracle wrote:
YFred wrote:
insan wrote:
YFred wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
YFred wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
By 'they' you mean Nikos Sampson et al. Your (4) then could be part related to (2). But why, otherwise, would Sampson et al have 'wider support from the general population' than TMT?

Because a higher percentage of GCs believed in enosis than TCs in Taksim. In all the years I lived in Cyprus, I have never heard anybody talk about the merits of Taksim and why we should join Turkey in person, not even in school. I wonder how many GCs can say that.
The talk was generally that TCs in enclaves were like sitting duck to the GCs and how best to protect them.

Even to this day with the settlers, given the choice of Cyprus in the EU or join Turkey, I believe they would vote for the first one.


Cypriots on either side are not that different. The main reason GCs hankered for enosis was to be part of something bigger, something European; to avoid falling into Turkey's clutches.

We have a different impression from Miltiades, the GCs at the time saw the Greeks as superior because of their language and culture. He was involved with eoka pre 60 as a kid and gave us a good background on GC mentality at the time. I don't remember anybody else ever saying that GCs fear was as you describe it. Can anybody else shed some light on this thought?


Nah! IQ test result zero again! :lol: GC taught "together we r strong"; it didn't really matter whether Greece was in Europe or Africa... neither did it matter it was big or not... "together we r strong"... remember who led GCs to Enosis idea? Priests? They were well aware of "Megali Idea" eh? Together they would be strong like together we would be strong with Turkey.

I agree, that is how I understand Hellenism to mean. The Megali idea to create all the old Greek Empire one more time. Fat chance as the old saying goes.


Shut up you ignorant twit and stop imparting your stupid outlook on everyone else.

The majority of Cypriots are Hellenic and association with Greece has nothing to do with big ideas or old empires but merely re-connecting with natural ties.

The unnatural cuckoos in the nest are you Turks!


Come now old girl, we have established that selfishness is an inheritted gene and the GCs suffer from selfishness which makes them the cuckoos. Do you not remember?
One of my earlier threads, the time when you were digitally stalking me, remember?
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Postby B25 » Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:42 am

Bananiot wrote:Probably they did, but when our right wing fascists started killing progressive TC's, we pushed, in essence, the vast majority of the TC's into the warm embrace of TMT, for protection.

P.S. I hear the TC B25's telling Levent to leave the north and reside in the south, with his GC friends. Fascists are the same, eveywhere.


Just answer the damn question.

Did you or did you not stand up to them??

twra ertes pososou!

As for levent, the first chance the Turks get he is going to be another Hink (Dink?? whatever the name was)

They hate him very much, that I am sure.
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Postby Bananiot » Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:56 am

I was 7 years old, idiot, at the time. You are an outright idiot, worse than I thought, because you take eveything written here for personal. And, if Levent is assasinated, it will not be by Turks, but by nationalist beasts, like you, idiot.
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Postby B25 » Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:27 am

Bananiot wrote:I was 7 years old, idiot, at the time. You are an outright idiot, worse than I thought, because you take eveything written here for personal. And, if Levent is assasinated, it will not be by Turks, but by nationalist beasts, like you, idiot.


OK let me just rephrase the question, did yours then??

You are quick to condemn your own, what was the contribution of yours??

Its a good job there are people like me otherwise we would all be licking the Turks arse like you do.
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Postby YFred » Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:27 pm

B25 wrote:
Bananiot wrote:I was 7 years old, idiot, at the time. You are an outright idiot, worse than I thought, because you take eveything written here for personal. And, if Levent is assasinated, it will not be by Turks, but by nationalist beasts, like you, idiot.


OK let me just rephrase the question, did yours then??

You are quick to condemn your own, what was the contribution of yours??

Its a good job there are people like me otherwise we would all be licking the Turks arse like you do.

You are not even just a brain dead pig. You are an insult to pigs. They are far more clever than you will ever be.
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Postby B25 » Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:33 pm

YFred wrote:
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Bananiot wrote:I was 7 years old, idiot, at the time. You are an outright idiot, worse than I thought, because you take eveything written here for personal. And, if Levent is assasinated, it will not be by Turks, but by nationalist beasts, like you, idiot.


OK let me just rephrase the question, did yours then??

You are quick to condemn your own, what was the contribution of yours??

Its a good job there are people like me otherwise we would all be licking the Turks arse like you do.

You are not even just a brain dead pig. You are an insult to pigs. They are far more clever than you will ever be.


Yeah, thats why you don't eat them, cos they are re-incarnated muslems huh?

Take a hike Yjocks, I am fed up with your stupid (trying to be ) witty one liners.

nothing to say then don't, it is not a contest , you don't have to write, even crap, as you do.

Bonzo the clown
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