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[Malapapa]

Didn't anyone? If, so why? (This question isn't necessarily addressed to you Bananiot).

Surely it can't be that everyone was too cowardly? Surely it can't be that those with enough principles to make a stand had already left the island, for the sake of their well-being - mental as well as physical.

I'd really like to know.

Perhaps all the GC killed by the Eoka in its many guises were those very people. All killed. When the killing starts, then people look the other way. It all depends on the murderous tenacity of the killers and the courage of those against them to stand up against. Levent is such man. I don't agree with some of the things he writes but he is a very courageous man.

Agree about Levent's courage. His latest article is superb...

So, three possible explanations:

1. People were too afraid;
2. People with principles had already left the island;
3. People with principles had already been killed.

Any more?

4. They had much wider support from the general population than TMT.

By 'they' you mean Nikos Sampson et al. Your (4) then could be part related to (2). But why, otherwise, would Sampson et al have 'wider support from the general population' than TMT?

[Get Real!]

If one bothers to read Droushiotis's book...

It looks like you're the only one Bananiot...

[Bananiot]

Probably they did, but when our right wing fascists started killing progressive TC's, we pushed, in essence, the vast majority of the TC's into the warm embrace of TMT, for protection.

P.S. I hear the TC B25's telling Levent to leave the north and reside in the south, with his GC friends. Fascists are the same, eveywhere.

[YFred]

Didn't anyone? If, so why? (This question isn't necessarily addressed to you Bananiot).

Surely it can't be that everyone was too cowardly? Surely it can't be that those with enough principles to make a stand had already left the island, for the sake of their well-being - mental as well as physical.

I'd really like to know.

Perhaps all the GC killed by the Eoka in its many guises were those very people. All killed. When the killing starts, then people look the other way. It all depends on the murderous tenacity of the killers and the courage of those against them to stand up against. Levent is such man. I don't agree with some of the things he writes but he is a very courageous man.

Agree about Levent's courage. His latest article is superb...

So, three possible explanations:

1. People were too afraid;
2. People with principles had already left the island;
3. People with principles had already been killed.

Any more?

4. They had much wider support from the general population than TMT.

By 'they' you mean Nikos Sampson et al. Your (4) then could be part related to (2). But why, otherwise, would Sampson et al have 'wider support from the general population' than TMT?

Because a higher percentage of GCs believed in enosis than TCs in Taksim. In all the years I lived in Cyprus, I have never heard anybody talk about the merits of Taksim and why we should join Turkey in person, not even in school. I wonder how many GCs can say that.
The talk was generally that TCs in enclaves were like sitting duck to the GCs and how best to protect them.

Even to this day with the settlers, given the choice of Cyprus in the EU or join Turkey, I believe they would vote for the first one.

[YFred]

CIA drew the map in 1930? How did they do that? Using a time machine?


https://www.cia.gov/kids-page/6-12th-gr ... e-cia.html

"Under the provisions of the National Security Act of 1947 the National Security Council (NSC) and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) were created."

They had a secret service before then, I have seen the map the American government had in the 30s.

You were caught out again! Now shut up and take it like a man!

GR go home and play with your pirillis, or have you lost them?

[Get Real!]

In all the years I lived in Cyprus, I have never heard anybody talk about the merits of Taksim and why we should join Turkey in person, not even in school.

Yet you just went ahead and did it anyway!

[YFred]

In all the years I lived in Cyprus, I have never heard anybody talk about the merits of Taksim and why we should join Turkey in person, not even in school.

Yet you just went ahead and did it anyway!

Never mind the pirillis' just play with yourself, you'll you may feel a few good tingles in ausi land area.

[Malapapa]

By 'they' you mean Nikos Sampson et al. Your (4) then could be part related to (2). But why, otherwise, would Sampson et al have 'wider support from the general population' than TMT?

Because a higher percentage of GCs believed in enosis than TCs in Taksim. In all the years I lived in Cyprus, I have never heard anybody talk about the merits of Taksim and why we should join Turkey in person, not even in school. I wonder how many GCs can say that.
The talk was generally that TCs in enclaves were like sitting duck to the GCs and how best to protect them.

Even to this day with the settlers, given the choice of Cyprus in the EU or join Turkey, I believe they would vote for the first one.

Cypriots on either side are not that different. The main reason GCs hankered for enosis was to be part of something bigger, something European; to avoid falling into Turkey's clutches.

[YFred]

By 'they' you mean Nikos Sampson et al. Your (4) then could be part related to (2). But why, otherwise, would Sampson et al have 'wider support from the general population' than TMT?

Because a higher percentage of GCs believed in enosis than TCs in Taksim. In all the years I lived in Cyprus, I have never heard anybody talk about the merits of Taksim and why we should join Turkey in person, not even in school. I wonder how many GCs can say that.
The talk was generally that TCs in enclaves were like sitting duck to the GCs and how best to protect them.

Even to this day with the settlers, given the choice of Cyprus in the EU or join Turkey, I believe they would vote for the first one.

Cypriots on either side are not that different. The main reason GCs hankered for enosis was to be part of something bigger, something European; to avoid falling into Turkey's clutches.

We have a different impression from Miltiades, the GCs at the time saw the Greeks as superior because of their language and culture. He was involved with eoka pre 60 as a kid and gave us a good background on GC mentality at the time. I don't remember anybody else ever saying that GCs fear was as you describe it. Can anybody else shed some light on this thought?

[insan]

By 'they' you mean Nikos Sampson et al. Your (4) then could be part related to (2). But why, otherwise, would Sampson et al have 'wider support from the general population' than TMT?

Because a higher percentage of GCs believed in enosis than TCs in Taksim. In all the years I lived in Cyprus, I have never heard anybody talk about the merits of Taksim and why we should join Turkey in person, not even in school. I wonder how many GCs can say that.
The talk was generally that TCs in enclaves were like sitting duck to the GCs and how best to protect them.

Even to this day with the settlers, given the choice of Cyprus in the EU or join Turkey, I believe they would vote for the first one.

Cypriots on either side are not that different. The main reason GCs hankered for enosis was to be part of something bigger, something European; to avoid falling into Turkey's clutches.

We have a different impression from Miltiades, the GCs at the time saw the Greeks as superior because of their language and culture. He was involved with eoka pre 60 as a kid and gave us a good background on GC mentality at the time. I don't remember anybody else ever saying that GCs fear was as you describe it. Can anybody else shed some light on this thought?

Nah! IQ test result zero again! GC taught "together we r strong"; it didn't really matter whether Greece was in Europe or Africa... neither did it matter it was big or not... "together we r strong"... remember who led GCs to Enosis idea? Priests? They were well aware of "Megali Idea" eh? Together they would be strong like together we would be strong with Turkey.