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Re: Turkey outrightly didn't reject negotiating 13 points?

Postby insan » Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:08 am

Oracle wrote:
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insan wrote:On 3 December 1963, three days after Makarios’ proposals for constitutional revision had been communicated to the Turks, members of the Organisation blew up the statue of EOKA hero Markos Drakos near Paphos Gate in Nicosia.


Which "Organisation"?


Ex-Eoka members under a new name, led by Yorgacis. The name was simply Organization.


That's total rubbish ... a "fact" made up after the events, more recently, by journalist, people like you and Bananiot.
:lol: :lol: It didn't suit ur myths eh? :lol:
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Re: Turkey outrightly didn't reject negotiating 13 points?

Postby YFred » Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:14 am

Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:On 3 December 1963, three days after Makarios’ proposals for constitutional revision had been communicated to the Turks, members of the Organisation blew up the statue of EOKA hero Markos Drakos near Paphos Gate in Nicosia.


Which "Organisation"?


Ex-Eoka members under a new name, led by Yorgacis. The name was simply Organization.


That's total rubbish ... a "fact" made up after the events, more recently, by journalist, people like you and Bananiot.

There is no such thing as Ex-Eoka. It never went away. They were the Untouchables which carried on killing with the full approval of the roc. You should now that once you join such an organisation; you can only leave it in a coffin.
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Re: Turkey outrightly didn't reject negotiating 13 points?

Postby Oracle » Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:15 am

insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:On 3 December 1963, three days after Makarios’ proposals for constitutional revision had been communicated to the Turks, members of the Organisation blew up the statue of EOKA hero Markos Drakos near Paphos Gate in Nicosia.


Which "Organisation"?


Ex-Eoka members under a new name, led by Yorgacis. The name was simply Organization.


That's total rubbish ... a "fact" made up after the events, more recently, by journalist, people like you and Bananiot.
:lol: :lol: It didn't suit ur myths eh? :lol:


BUT it definitely does NOT "suit" the REALITY ... which was that the map dividing Cyprus was drawn by TURKEY from the 50's (not just the 60's) and Turkey was starting such incitements for excuses to invade. This particular set of incidences were orchestrated by Turkey so that it could invade, which it tried to do just a few months later (and failed) and is exactly the parallel excuse used in 1974 which led to Turkey invading ... and that is NOT a MYTH!

The myths are the excuses YOU make up to justify splitting Cyprus ... you foreign invader.
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Re: Turkey outrightly didn't reject negotiating 13 points?

Postby YFred » Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:16 am

Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:On 3 December 1963, three days after Makarios’ proposals for constitutional revision had been communicated to the Turks, members of the Organisation blew up the statue of EOKA hero Markos Drakos near Paphos Gate in Nicosia.


Which "Organisation"?


Ex-Eoka members under a new name, led by Yorgacis. The name was simply Organization.


That's total rubbish ... a "fact" made up after the events, more recently, by journalist, people like you and Bananiot.
:lol: :lol: It didn't suit ur myths eh? :lol:


BUT it definitely does NOT "suit" the REALITY ... which was that the map dividing Cyprus was drawn by TURKEY from the 50's (not just the 60's) and Turkey was starting such incitements for excuses to invade. This particular set of incidences were orchestrated by Turkey so that it could invade, which it tried to do just a few months later (and failed) and is exactly the parallel excuse used in 1974 which led to Turkey invading ... and that is NOT a MYTH!

The myths are the excuses YOU make up to justify splitting Cyprus ... you foreign invader.

You are so wrong and out of your depth. The map dividing Cyprus was drawn by the CIA in the 30s and it's remarkably close to the line today.
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Re: Turkey outrightly didn't reject negotiating 13 points?

Postby insan » Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:34 am

Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:On 3 December 1963, three days after Makarios’ proposals for constitutional revision had been communicated to the Turks, members of the Organisation blew up the statue of EOKA hero Markos Drakos near Paphos Gate in Nicosia.


Which "Organisation"?


Ex-Eoka members under a new name, led by Yorgacis. The name was simply Organization.


That's total rubbish ... a "fact" made up after the events, more recently, by journalist, people like you and Bananiot.
:lol: :lol: It didn't suit ur myths eh? :lol:


BUT it definitely does NOT "suit" the REALITY ... which was that the map dividing Cyprus was drawn by TURKEY from the 50's (not just the 60's) and Turkey was starting such incitements for excuses to invade. This particular set of incidences were orchestrated by Turkey so that it could invade, which it tried to do just a few months later (and failed) and is exactly the parallel excuse used in 1974 which led to Turkey invading ... and that is NOT a MYTH!

The myths are the excuses YOU make up to justify splitting Cyprus ... you foreign invader.


So GC national Front in collabortaion Greek national front wasn't starting such incitements for excuses to invade and annex Cyprus with Greece? Is there anyone from ur National Front denying what was written by Drusotis? If there's noone denying what was written by Drusotis then these r the truths.

Where's ur story of how incidents developed after the Makarios proposal of 13 points? Since u concluded that this was a made-up story u should be knowledged abt it's true version. Tell us ur story then we can examine, analyze and decide what's the truth...
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Re: Turkey outrightly didn't reject negotiating 13 points?

Postby insan » Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:36 am

YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:On 3 December 1963, three days after Makarios’ proposals for constitutional revision had been communicated to the Turks, members of the Organisation blew up the statue of EOKA hero Markos Drakos near Paphos Gate in Nicosia.


Which "Organisation"?


Ex-Eoka members under a new name, led by Yorgacis. The name was simply Organization.


That's total rubbish ... a "fact" made up after the events, more recently, by journalist, people like you and Bananiot.

There is no such thing as Ex-Eoka. It never went away. They were the Untouchables which carried on killing with the full approval of the roc. You should now that once you join such an organisation; you can only leave it in a coffin.


They were organized under a new name, YFred... All rights of using the name EOKA belonged to Grivas... u know he later in 1971 formed EOKA-B.
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Re: Turkey outrightly didn't reject negotiating 13 points?

Postby Malapapa » Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:44 am

YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:On 3 December 1963, three days after Makarios’ proposals for constitutional revision had been communicated to the Turks, members of the Organisation blew up the statue of EOKA hero Markos Drakos near Paphos Gate in Nicosia.


Which "Organisation"?


Ex-Eoka members under a new name, led by Yorgacis. The name was simply Organization.


That's total rubbish ... a "fact" made up after the events, more recently, by journalist, people like you and Bananiot.
:lol: :lol: It didn't suit ur myths eh? :lol:


BUT it definitely does NOT "suit" the REALITY ... which was that the map dividing Cyprus was drawn by TURKEY from the 50's (not just the 60's) and Turkey was starting such incitements for excuses to invade. This particular set of incidences were orchestrated by Turkey so that it could invade, which it tried to do just a few months later (and failed) and is exactly the parallel excuse used in 1974 which led to Turkey invading ... and that is NOT a MYTH!

The myths are the excuses YOU make up to justify splitting Cyprus ... you foreign invader.

You are so wrong and out of your depth. The map dividing Cyprus was drawn by the CIA in the 30s and it's remarkably close to the line today.


CIA drew the map in 1930? How did they do that? Using a time machine?


https://www.cia.gov/kids-page/6-12th-gr ... e-cia.html

"Under the provisions of the National Security Act of 1947 the National Security Council (NSC) and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) were created."
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Postby paliometoxo » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:34 pm

halil wrote:what a fart again .......... in 1950's there was no ROC.............. ROC was established between TC's and GC's in 16 August 1960 . It lasted for only 3 years .......... How break down ? It is well known by the world .

13 points tried to impose on TC's by using force .


yes it lasted 3 years the tmt and turks where there to enusre it wouldent last very long
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Re: Turkey outrightly didn't reject negotiating 13 points?

Postby YFred » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:52 pm

Malapapa wrote:
YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:On 3 December 1963, three days after Makarios’ proposals for constitutional revision had been communicated to the Turks, members of the Organisation blew up the statue of EOKA hero Markos Drakos near Paphos Gate in Nicosia.


Which "Organisation"?


Ex-Eoka members under a new name, led by Yorgacis. The name was simply Organization.


That's total rubbish ... a "fact" made up after the events, more recently, by journalist, people like you and Bananiot.
:lol: :lol: It didn't suit ur myths eh? :lol:


BUT it definitely does NOT "suit" the REALITY ... which was that the map dividing Cyprus was drawn by TURKEY from the 50's (not just the 60's) and Turkey was starting such incitements for excuses to invade. This particular set of incidences were orchestrated by Turkey so that it could invade, which it tried to do just a few months later (and failed) and is exactly the parallel excuse used in 1974 which led to Turkey invading ... and that is NOT a MYTH!

The myths are the excuses YOU make up to justify splitting Cyprus ... you foreign invader.

You are so wrong and out of your depth. The map dividing Cyprus was drawn by the CIA in the 30s and it's remarkably close to the line today.


CIA drew the map in 1930? How did they do that? Using a time machine?


https://www.cia.gov/kids-page/6-12th-gr ... e-cia.html

"Under the provisions of the National Security Act of 1947 the National Security Council (NSC) and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) were created."

They had a secret service before then, I have seen the map the American government had in the 30s.
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Re: Turkey outrightly didn't reject negotiating 13 points?

Postby Malapapa » Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:21 pm

YFred wrote:
Malapapa wrote:CIA drew the map in 1930? How did they do that? Using a time machine?


https://www.cia.gov/kids-page/6-12th-gr ... e-cia.html

"Under the provisions of the National Security Act of 1947 the National Security Council (NSC) and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) were created."

They had a secret service before then, I have seen the map the American government had in the 30s.


Not that this "secret" map matters, particularly, YFred, but how can one take your posts seriously, when you pay such scant regard for the facts?
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