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Another sad response from Got Rubbish

When unkie GR smells a rat it’s a hell of a stench…

[Malapapa]

MP there were embargoes even in the 60s,
It was not only a consequence of 1974.

GC have sought to keep the TC people down before Turkey even got a snifter.
There were embargoes on TCs throughout the 1960s.

Goods, materials, loans, government etc.

Yes you may laugh, but ask the people who you are trying to choke into submission with your boots placed heavily on their necks if they can also see the funny side.

When I saw Bill say he's embargoed from Girne, well, at least that's his only gripe. Sports, entertainment, foreign investment, even the friggin EU where you can't even let TCs who are meant to be part of Cyprus have any representation, oh yes and our properties.

Anyone that says the embargoes are not real and/or that they are justifiable given the past of the island and/or that it is right that only one side should be persecuted is one of the following:

1. Stupid
2. Ignorant
3. Malicious
4. Calculating (in the Machiavelian sense)
5. Racist

Tony says people have discussed the various atrocities and negative impact of the GCs, so why oh why can the GCs on this forum still justify the embargoes. Oh yes one of the 5 points above.

Great speech, but I don't need a lecture from you or anyone else about the shit that's happened to people in Cyprus since.... well, how far back do you want to go - because the 1960s are one tiny chapter.

Most if not all of this shit has been caused by interference from ignorant, malicious, calculating (in the Machiavellian sense) and racist foreigners. (Indeed the very term TC would not even exist but for this).

This interference MUST END if ever the island is going to be at peace with itself.

At the moment, there are 40,000 troops parked on the north of the island, representing more of those interfering ignorant, malicious, calculating (in the Machiavellian sense) and racist foreigners. And this lot are stupid too!

It's the illegitimate state they've created and are protecting that's being embargoed NOT individual, legitimate Cypriot citizens. And if any such citizens face discrimination they have the right to challenge this in the relevant courts (including, ultimately, the European courts). And they will win. And I will be pleased for them. Because I don't like injustice.

So, if you really want to improve the lot of TCs, encourage them to secure their rights, using legal means. (Not through invasion, ethnic cleansing and all that has followed since 1974). For, like me, Cyprus has had its fill of injustice.

[YFred]

Another sad response from Got Rubbish

When unkie GR smells a rat it’s a hell of a stench…

Yep, he's got your name wrong. Its GÖT Rubbish. That is a hell of a stench. I can smell from Londonistan.

[Acikgoz]

MP -
Just reflex reaction from years of brainwashing - the EMBARGOES WERE PLACED ON CYPRIOTS OF TURKISH ETHNICITY BEFORE TURKEY parked their troops.
FACE UP TO IT:

1. Stupid
2. Ignorant
3. Malicious
4. Calculating (in the Machiavelian sense)
5. Racist

Which one are you - No. 2 is out as you have been on this forum for some time, so I'd say 1. 3. 4. 5.

[Malapapa]

MP -
Just reflex reaction from years of brainwashing -

Not at all. I go out of my way to avoid being brainwashed. I realise Cypriot history didn't begin in 1963 or 1974.

the EMBARGOES WERE PLACED ON CYPRIOTS OF TURKISH ETHNICITY BEFORE TURKEY parked their troops.
FACE UP TO IT:

1. Stupid
2. Ignorant
3. Malicious
4. Calculating (in the Machiavelian sense)
5. Racist

Which one are you - No. 2 is out as you have been on this forum for some time, so I'd say 1. 3. 4. 5.

That must make the whole world 1, 3, 4 and 5 then for agreeing with free Cyprus to keep Turkey's subordinate regime unrecognised.

[YFred]

MP -
Just reflex reaction from years of brainwashing -

Not at all. I go out of my way to avoid being brainwashed. I realise Cypriot history didn't begin in 1963 or 1974.

the EMBARGOES WERE PLACED ON CYPRIOTS OF TURKISH ETHNICITY BEFORE TURKEY parked their troops.
FACE UP TO IT:

1. Stupid
2. Ignorant
3. Malicious
4. Calculating (in the Machiavelian sense)
5. Racist

Which one are you - No. 2 is out as you have been on this forum for some time, so I'd say 1. 3. 4. 5.

That must make the whole world 1, 3, 4 and 5 then for agreeing with free Cyprus to keep Turkey's subordinate regime unrecognised.

You are wrong there, 3 does not apply to the rest of the world number 2 does and there is another missing option, no 6 - self interest.

[Acikgoz]

I guess if you believe the whole world is made up of people that "really investigate and learn about the realities and make decisions based upon them" rather than what lobby groups, media etc. utilise to influence the influencers well you really must be

1.

or can I add

6. naive

[Acikgoz]

Make that 7. then.

Your 6. should probably be No.1 but I didn't want to say it as who knows MP may not be as big a ? as he is making out.

[Malapapa]

MP -
Just reflex reaction from years of brainwashing -

Not at all. I go out of my way to avoid being brainwashed. I realise Cypriot history didn't begin in 1963 or 1974.

the EMBARGOES WERE PLACED ON CYPRIOTS OF TURKISH ETHNICITY BEFORE TURKEY parked their troops.
FACE UP TO IT:

1. Stupid
2. Ignorant
3. Malicious
4. Calculating (in the Machiavelian sense)
5. Racist

Which one are you - No. 2 is out as you have been on this forum for some time, so I'd say 1. 3. 4. 5.

That must make the whole world 1, 3, 4 and 5 then for agreeing with free Cyprus to keep Turkey's subordinate regime unrecognised.

You are wrong there, 3 does not apply to the rest of the world number 2 does and there is another missing option, no 6 - self interest.

You forget 7. "Unfair"

[YFred]

MP -
Just reflex reaction from years of brainwashing -

Not at all. I go out of my way to avoid being brainwashed. I realise Cypriot history didn't begin in 1963 or 1974.

the EMBARGOES WERE PLACED ON CYPRIOTS OF TURKISH ETHNICITY BEFORE TURKEY parked their troops.
FACE UP TO IT:

1. Stupid
2. Ignorant
3. Malicious
4. Calculating (in the Machiavelian sense)
5. Racist

Which one are you - No. 2 is out as you have been on this forum for some time, so I'd say 1. 3. 4. 5.

That must make the whole world 1, 3, 4 and 5 then for agreeing with free Cyprus to keep Turkey's subordinate regime unrecognised.

You are wrong there, 3 does not apply to the rest of the world number 2 does and there is another missing option, no 6 - self interest.

You forget 7. "Unfair"

It would have come to me later. I am running on half cylinders tonight.