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Postby Milo » Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:24 pm

YFred wrote:This from a EU country seems crazy me. If a builder sells a property, then he should not be able to mortgage it, it should be covered under common fraud laws and if the property is mortgaged and then the builder sells it, the money should go to the mortgagee and the deed should be released from the mortgage. How on earth is this situation allowed to continue in a EU country.

It seems to me there is only one safe way of doing it in Cyprus and that is buy the land first so you have the deeds, and then employ a builder to build it.


Its the fault mainly of the Banks and totally unbelieveable it can happen but it has.

Buying land first with Deeds definitely the way to go (we did) :D

I doubt that higher courts will allow purchasers to lose their own property bought in good faith just because some unscrupulous people don,t have any decency in them. We shall see. The EU bit though has nothing to do with it the laws on buying property here date back a long time.
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Postby Svetlana » Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:37 pm

Hi MIlo

I agree with you that this should be brought out in the open; call me paranoid but I suspect some Banks have in mind to resell 'reclaimed' properties to favoured clients and with respect to your honoured profession, some lawyers are involved in this too.

I believe there could some major revelations about the actions on one bank early in the new year.

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Postby yialousa1971 » Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:51 am

Svetlana wrote:Hi MIlo

I agree with you that this should be brought out in the open; call me paranoid but I suspect some Banks have in mind to resell 'reclaimed' properties to favoured clients and with respect to your honoured profession, some lawyers are involved in this too.

I believe there could some major revelations about the actions on one bank early in the new year.

lana


Here we go again, Lana your giving out advice about something your haven't got a clue about. Stick to what you know best, threads about cooking! :lol:
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Postby Svetlana » Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:50 am

Yialoser

Do you have a DEATH WISH.....?


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Postby yialousa1971 » Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:39 am

Svetlana wrote:Yialoser

Do you have a DEATH WISH.....?


Lana


Yes! :D
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Postby Z4 » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:48 pm

Yo Yialoser................in Paramali there is a restuarant called your name after the owner - who is a women!
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Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:57 am

Z4 wrote:Yo Yialoser................in Paramali there is a restuarant called your name after the owner - who is a women!


There is a truly dreadful little restaurant bearing this name on the Limassol sea front close to the old port. I once ordered mousakka there and ended up being served a load of left-overs cooked up in a frying pan with some mince thrown in. I would not recommend this place to my worst enemy!
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Postby Svetlana » Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:55 am

The property industry in Cyprus is built on greed and nepotism. The developers borrow money from the bank using people’s homes as collateral and the banks and lawyers are part of the deception. I have proof that my home has been mortgaged by my developer.

Protesters gathering outside the Bank of Cyprus in Paphos
BUYERS deceived into buying mortgaged property crowded onto the narrow pavement outside the Regional Branch of the Bank of Cyprus in Paphos earlier today protesting against the unethical lending practices of the banks.

Organised by the Cyprus Property Action and their supporters, the peaceful protest passed without incident and was attended by around 100 people carrying placards in Greek, Russian and English.

Property buyers in Cyprus are continually being deceived into buying property on land that developers have mortgaged. Many of them have even been granted mortgages to buy their homes from the very banks that loaned the developer the money to buy the land in the first place. But neither the banks nor the lawyers, who are there to protect their interests, advise them of the risks they are taking if they buy property built on mortgaged land.


"Toxic Debt Timebomb"
If the developer collapses or the bank forecloses on his mortgages, those buyers will not only have to pay off their mortgages, but the developers as well. If they do not, they face the very real threat of losing their homes.

People in the Paphos area, whose property developer declared himself bankrupt, have already been told by the bank that their homes could be taken away in order to recover the developer’s debt.

A Finnish man I spoke to said that his lawyer had told him the laws in Cyprus and England were the same. Unfortunately he believed her and has now found his home has been mortgaged by the developer.

Another man showed me a document from the Land Registry confirming that his developer took out a €3.5 million mortgage on his development more than five years ago. Neither the bank, with whom he took out a mortgage to buy his home, nor his lawyer told him about this mortgage. And the bank now refuses to tell him how much of that €3.5 million the developer still owes – or whether the developer has paid off any of it at all.

“Cyprus is built in greed and nepotism”He told me “The property industry in Cyprus is built on greed and nepotism. The developers borrow money from the bank using people’s homes as collateral and the banks and lawyers are part of the deception. I have proof that my home has been mortgaged by my developer, but the people in there (pointing at the bank) refuse to tell me anything.”

A Cypriot I spoke to was very worried about the economic situation. He bought his house five years ago and has still not got his Title Deed. He believes that the economy will be worse next year. There have been very few tourists this year and that most of them booked their holiday in 2008, and that only a few cancelled. He told me that many companies are having financial problems and that next year will be a catastrophe.

“This island is morally corrupt”Another protester said “This Island is morally corrupt. Did you know that the chairman of this bank (Theodoros Aristodemou) is also the chairman of Aristo, one of the largest developers here? Don’t they have any concept or understanding of conflict of interest?”

(Credits: Cyprus Property Magazine)
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Postby SKI-preo » Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:36 am

Cyprus needs a Computerized Torrens Title System. Its ridiculous that this can happen in 2009
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Postby yialousa1971 » Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:26 am

Z4 wrote:Yo Yialoser................in Paramali there is a restuarant called your name after the owner - who is a women!


Trying to get my attention again, don't worry I will have your South Park character ready soon. 8)
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