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[Get Real!]

If the immigration of Turks from the mainland is you issue, then can we please disect it to get a clearer understanding of the problem.

Your "dissection" of the issue is a load of poppycock.

Here’s what matters…

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle19.htm

[bill cobbett]

At the risk of getting back of thread ...

This five party approach. We have of course been there before, at the back end of 1959. Shouldn't we learn just a little from history?

Do we really want the Unholy Trinity of the Guarantor Powers arranging things for their own advantage, their own national interests, again?

But it was a three party approach in practice Bill. This would be the ideal opportunity to tell the unholy trinity to mind their own business. The UK and to a lesser extent Greece, have stood back from the Cyprus Problem - certainly compared to the old days. Now is the time for them to let go.

We are going to have to agree to disagree on this, otherwise

I'll see you in Court!

I'm not saying a word .... but suspect other members are thinking .... "mmmh, and we all know who Jerry will get to represent him!"

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[insan]

Where's political equality of 2 communities then?

Where it always was… up Jack's arse picking gooseberries!

It is crystal clear that Chris considers TCs as a community but not GCs as a community.

Tell us something we don't know.

If there's no political equality of 2 communities then u will look for reunification up in ur arses through gastrointestinal tract!

[YFred]

At the risk of getting back of thread ...

This five party approach. We have of course been there before, at the back end of 1959. Shouldn't we learn just a little from history?

Do we really want the Unholy Trinity of the Guarantor Powers arranging things for their own advantage, their own national interests, again?

But it was a three party approach in practice Bill. This would be the ideal opportunity to tell the unholy trinity to mind their own business. The UK and to a lesser extent Greece, have stood back from the Cyprus Problem - certainly compared to the old days. Now is the time for them to let go.

We are going to have to agree to disagree on this, otherwise

I'll see you in Court!

I'm not saying a word .... but suspect other members are thinking .... "mmmh, and we all know who Jerry will get to represent him!"

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I wouldn't end up in court with Jerry old chap, he may find you just as shagable as Mrs B. But I never said nothink.

[Get Real!]

Where's political equality of 2 communities then?

Where it always was… up Jack's arse picking gooseberries!

It is crystal clear that Chris considers TCs as a community but not GCs as a community.

Tell us something we don't know.

If there's no political equality of 2 communities then u will look for reunification up in ur arses through gastrointestinal tract!

As I said many times… as a “community” you have nothing to offer and are a serious liability to the republic, but as EU Cypriot citizens things look a lot better.

So overall, the problem with the TCs is that they want to come as an opposing gang instead of as compatriot citizens and that of course raises some serious national issues that we do not take lightly.

[bill cobbett]

In any event there will be loads of gaps between us in these talks. Who's going to fill in the gaps is the question being raised isn't it?

Wouldn't want to see a repeat of 1959 or a repeat of the back end of the Anan Scam negotiations with gaps being filled in by a supposedly neutral UN, but which we all know favoured the interests of Turkey.

Am increasingly thinking of an International Conference of Jurists (the world's leading experts in a wide range of fields) as a way of arbitrating our differences. Now whether that's a binding on all parties process of arbitration or one that whose deliberations will need ratification by the leaders and or referendum(s) may be a matter of further debate as is the matter of whether it fills in gaps or starts again with a blank sheet from first principles.

Thinking that such a Conference should examine all points of view; from the Leaders and interested third party governments inc the UN and EU, political parties and perhaps even from interested indivividuals.

Forgive me if I add a little humour, which am doing to make the point that all perspectives should be covered. Who knows we could see being considered.. Repulse presenting his Flowery Manifesto (hope you've all read it) and Kikapoo with his New Constitution or Insan with his Psychedelic Mantras, or bananiot and Halil giving out free hugs with coffee and mahalebi, or GR with the dozen boys from Blackstones and his Janes' Manuals and credible links, Zan and VP with their gramophone record, Yiallousa and our O with their greek flags etc etc.

What am saying if every angle is heard and considered in some kind of inclusive and transparent process then we'll go a long way to some kind of agreement.

The alternative is the usual, been there and done it before, reinventing the wheel, intercommunal talks, whether with the Motherlands actually present in the room or waving their interfering sticks from a distance. Ain't gonna work.

[Acikgoz]

Get Real,

My experience to date is that your contribution is wholly without balance. If it is always the same then I would seriously ask for you not to participate on anything I write or enquire about.

Respectfully.

A.

[Get Real!]

Get Real,

My experience to date is that your contribution is wholly without balance. If it is always the same then I would seriously ask for you not to participate on anything I write or enquire about.

Respectfully.

A.

What you ask for and what you’ll end up getting are two different things… usually, the largest of the three as we GCs always say!

[Acikgoz]

The gaps will always be there, the solutions are never going to satisfy either side. The introduction of the larger context is nothing short of an attempt to bang heads, slap backs and try to smooth the sharp corners.

Whoever is brought to bear, Int Conf of Jurists, how are they made up how is their impartiality going to go? ECJ ruling on a one sided benefit has done nothing but add to negative sentiment from TC side.

Fact is everyone has heard it all before, there is no right answer - people will have to bend and it is only right for them to do so given everyone contributed to the farse.

The hoo ha about the Orams shows the GC side is keen to address things on a piece meal basis, so what about piece meal set up a property commission in the south. Come back to hypocracy.

We all know that no one knows as much as we do about Cyprus so why don't we get on and deal with it.

[Acikgoz]

If one by one we can settle our claims, you'd be shocked at how quickly the bitterest elements will start receeding and in its place a more working together attitude will be found.