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Postby Talisker » Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:10 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
T_C wrote:Most of these Kurds came here because they were supposedly being prosecuted in Turkey.

They came to be "free", yet chose to become drug lords! :roll:

Speaks volumes....


I used to do interpreting for the Home Office at Heathrow. I was present at many interviews with people who said they were Kurds - although they wanted a Turkish language interpreter - and were claiming assylum because they said they faced persecution in Turkey. These people were obviously very well coached for the interview and knew full well that simply mentioning the magic words 'Kurdish' and 'asylum' was all that was required to get them in. I have my doubts as to whether many of these people were in fact Kurds. The asylum system needs to be tightened up so that it provides shelter for those genuinely fleeing persecution but cannot be exploited by those who have other motives for entering the country.

So - Turks are Kurds when it suits Turks, and when it suits Turks Kurds must be Turks? How convenient! :roll:
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Postby YFred » Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:07 am

Talisker wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
T_C wrote:Most of these Kurds came here because they were supposedly being prosecuted in Turkey.

They came to be "free", yet chose to become drug lords! :roll:

Speaks volumes....


I used to do interpreting for the Home Office at Heathrow. I was present at many interviews with people who said they were Kurds - although they wanted a Turkish language interpreter - and were claiming assylum because they said they faced persecution in Turkey. These people were obviously very well coached for the interview and knew full well that simply mentioning the magic words 'Kurdish' and 'asylum' was all that was required to get them in. I have my doubts as to whether many of these people were in fact Kurds. The asylum system needs to be tightened up so that it provides shelter for those genuinely fleeing persecution but cannot be exploited by those who have other motives for entering the country.

So - Turks are Kurds when it suits Turks, and when it suits Turks Kurds must be Turks? How convenient! :roll:

You are both very confused. Are you saying that all Kurds in Turkey can speak Kurdish, because you are wrong? Plenty is unable to speak their own language, I met a few in London myself. But that does not deter the MIT from putting the fear of god into them. No doubt there are plenty who also pretended to be too. Strange enough one of them turned out to be a drug dealer and did time after getting caught.
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Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:45 am

YFred wrote:
Talisker wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
T_C wrote:Most of these Kurds came here because they were supposedly being prosecuted in Turkey.

They came to be "free", yet chose to become drug lords! :roll:

Speaks volumes....


I used to do interpreting for the Home Office at Heathrow. I was present at many interviews with people who said they were Kurds - although they wanted a Turkish language interpreter - and were claiming assylum because they said they faced persecution in Turkey. These people were obviously very well coached for the interview and knew full well that simply mentioning the magic words 'Kurdish' and 'asylum' was all that was required to get them in. I have my doubts as to whether many of these people were in fact Kurds. The asylum system needs to be tightened up so that it provides shelter for those genuinely fleeing persecution but cannot be exploited by those who have other motives for entering the country.

So - Turks are Kurds when it suits Turks, and when it suits Turks Kurds must be Turks? How convenient! :roll:

You are both very confused. Are you saying that all Kurds in Turkey can speak Kurdish, because you are wrong? Plenty is unable to speak their own language, I met a few in London myself. But that does not deter the MIT from putting the fear of god into them. No doubt there are plenty who also pretended to be too. Strange enough one of them turned out to be a drug dealer and did time after getting caught.


Contrary to what some people seem to believe, there is nothing like a caste or apartheid system in Turkey and Sunni Muslims have intermarried freely for centuries. Many people can trace some Kurds among their ancestors if they go back far enough, so perhaps it is only a small jump to claiming Kurdish identity in order to be accepted as an asylum seeker.
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Postby paliometoxo » Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:28 pm

so kick out all the turks from london and there goes the heroin with them.. they must make millions per year if they are selling 90% of it
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Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:16 pm

paliometoxo wrote:so kick out all the turks from london and there goes the heroin with them.. they must make millions per year if they are selling 90% of it


It is not that simply. It must be one of the least well kept secrets in the world that Turkey is the pivotal country in the world heroin trade (e.g. see revelations by former CIA employee and whistleblower Sibel Edmonds), so as long as there is demand on the streets for the stuff Turkey is going to be involved in supplying it.
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Postby YFred » Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:40 pm

paliometoxo wrote:so kick out all the turks from london and there goes the heroin with them.. they must make millions per year if they are selling 90% of it

You don't mean that Pali. That is Hitler kind of idea. There are less than 1000 drug dealers I suspect and probaply more than half a million Turks in all. Do you really think that it is right to punish all innocent turks just to kick out a few guilty. Your Greekness is coming out, but I know you don't really mean it. You are too nice a man.
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Postby Oracle » Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:43 pm

paliometoxo wrote:so kick out all the turks from london and there goes the heroin with them.. they must make millions per year if they are selling 90% of it


I think the UK should give incoming Turks the Midnight Express treatment!
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Postby YFred » Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:45 pm

Oracle wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:so kick out all the turks from london and there goes the heroin with them.. they must make millions per year if they are selling 90% of it


I think the UK should give incoming Turks the Midnight Express treatment!
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Postby Oracle » Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:48 pm

YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:so kick out all the turks from london and there goes the heroin with them.. they must make millions per year if they are selling 90% of it


I think the UK should give incoming Turks the Midnight Express treatment!


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Postby paliometoxo » Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:56 pm

YFred wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:so kick out all the turks from london and there goes the heroin with them.. they must make millions per year if they are selling 90% of it

You don't mean that Pali. That is Hitler kind of idea. There are less than 1000 drug dealers I suspect and probaply more than half a million Turks in all. Do you really think that it is right to punish all innocent turks just to kick out a few guilty. Your Greekness is coming out, but I know you don't really mean it. You are too nice a man.


no of coruse i dont. it was a joke:)

but 90% must make them lots of money
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