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Re: Cyprus Property Talks..................

Postby Get Real! » Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:20 pm

insan wrote:At least u recognized the "pseudo state" right to build roads, hospitals, airports, universities etc etc etc... :wink:

I don’t know where you got that from because you don’t even have the right to breathe air in the “TRNC”.
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Re: Cyprus Property Talks..................

Postby YFred » Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:33 pm

Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:At least u recognized the "pseudo state" right to build roads, hospitals, airports, universities etc etc etc... :wink:

I don’t know where you got that from because you don’t even have the right to breathe air in the “TRNC”.

I beg to disagree old chum.
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Re: Cyprus Property Talks..................

Postby Malapapa » Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:17 pm

YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:At least u recognized the "pseudo state" right to build roads, hospitals, airports, universities etc etc etc... :wink:

I don’t know where you got that from because you don’t even have the right to breathe air in the “TRNC”.

I beg to disagree old chum.


If you were to stop being so disagreeable, maybe you wouldn't have to beg.
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Re: Cyprus Property Talks..................

Postby YFred » Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:37 pm

Malapapa wrote:
YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:At least u recognized the "pseudo state" right to build roads, hospitals, airports, universities etc etc etc... :wink:

I don’t know where you got that from because you don’t even have the right to breathe air in the “TRNC”.

I beg to disagree old chum.


If you were to stop being so disagreeable, maybe you wouldn't have to beg.

Beggars can't be choosers old boy.
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Re: Cyprus Property Talks..................

Postby growuptcs » Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:52 pm

YFred wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:At least u recognized the "pseudo state" right to build roads, hospitals, airports, universities etc etc etc... :wink:

I don’t know where you got that from because you don’t even have the right to breathe air in the “TRNC”.

I beg to disagree old chum.


If you were to stop being so disagreeable, maybe you wouldn't have to beg.

Beggars can't be choosers old boy.


If you followed your own logic, you wouldn't be in this mess.
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Re: Cyprus Property Talks..................

Postby Malapapa » Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:57 pm

YFred wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:At least u recognized the "pseudo state" right to build roads, hospitals, airports, universities etc etc etc... :wink:

I don’t know where you got that from because you don’t even have the right to breathe air in the “TRNC”.

I beg to disagree old chum.


If you were to stop being so disagreeable, maybe you wouldn't have to beg.

Beggars can't be choosers old boy.


Choose wisely, no need to beg.
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Postby Tony-4497 » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:06 am

The way I saw it, TMT protected the enclaves from 63 onwards with the TCs surrounded from all sides. We had to cross countless crossing checks to get anywhere not that different to what the Palestinians are suffering today under Israel. Are you seriously saying that what TMT did and what Eoka did amount to the same thing?
You must be furkin jokin man.


Of course that's the way you saw it.. Turks tend to see everything in their own special way, which always happen to be different to how the rest of the world sees things.. here we go again..

Turkey set up the TMT terrorist group in 1957, 3 years before the 1960 agreements, and BEFORE ANY intercommunal violence took place. The stated aim of TMT was to prove that Greek and Turkish Cypriots could not co-exist and thus achieve partition.

The FIRST EVER intercommunal killings were those of 8 Gr-Cypriots in Kondemenos, by TMT, in 1958. I CHALLENGE you or any Turk here to contradict this with an earlier example. Denktash, a leader of TMT, admitted that TMT BOMBED TURKISH CYPRIOTS and then blamed it on Gr-Cypriots to cause violence. Also, TMT KILLED MANY TURKISH CYPRIOTS who would not follow her orders to isolate themselves from Gr-Cypriots, including many journalists.

The following is from the Tr-Cypriot newspaper Africa (12.02.03):

"Subtitle: How clashes started

After a bomb against the Information Office of the Turkish Consulate, on 12 June 1958 British security forces arrested 8 Greek Cypriots at Kondemenos village and transported them to the nearest Turkish Cypriot village Gunyeli, about 10 kilometres, and left them free. By order of TMT these Greek Cypriots were massacred by Turkish Cypriots. This was the first incident whereby blood was shed between the two communities. This massacre has been committed with the intention that the Greek Cypriots will retaliate. Behind this provocative murders there were people whom Denktas called "some of our friends". Mr Denktas admitted during statements to a British television that TMT was responsible for the bombing incident". "
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Postby insan » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:14 am

Tony-4497 wrote:
The way I saw it, TMT protected the enclaves from 63 onwards with the TCs surrounded from all sides. We had to cross countless crossing checks to get anywhere not that different to what the Palestinians are suffering today under Israel. Are you seriously saying that what TMT did and what Eoka did amount to the same thing?
You must be furkin jokin man.


Of course that's the way you saw it.. Turks tend to see everything in their own special way, which always happen to be different to how the rest of the world sees things.. here we go again..

Turkey set up the TMT terrorist group in 1957, 3 years before the 1960 agreements, and BEFORE ANY intercommunal violence took place. The stated aim of TMT was to prove that Greek and Turkish Cypriots could not co-exist and thus achieve partition.

The FIRST EVER intercommunal killings were those of 8 Gr-Cypriots in Kondemenos, by TMT, in 1958. I CHALLENGE you or any Turk here to contradict this with an earlier example. Denktash, a leader of TMT, admitted that TMT BOMBED TURKISH CYPRIOTS and then blamed it on Gr-Cypriots to cause violence. Also, TMT KILLED MANY TURKISH CYPRIOTS who would not follow her orders to isolate themselves from Gr-Cypriots, including many journalists.

The following is from the Tr-Cypriot newspaper Africa (12.02.03):

"Subtitle: How clashes started

After a bomb against the Information Office of the Turkish Consulate, on 12 June 1958 British security forces arrested 8 Greek Cypriots at Kondemenos village and transported them to the nearest Turkish Cypriot village Gunyeli, about 10 kilometres, and left them free. By order of TMT these Greek Cypriots were massacred by Turkish Cypriots. This was the first incident whereby blood was shed between the two communities. This massacre has been committed with the intention that the Greek Cypriots will retaliate. Behind this provocative murders there were people whom Denktas called "some of our friends". Mr Denktas admitted during statements to a British television that TMT was responsible for the bombing incident". "


If the problem was started in 1958, what was happening between the years 1955-1958?

Independence fight of EOKA to unite Cyprus with Greece? :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:34 am

insan wrote:If the problem was started in 1958, what was happening between the years 1955-1958?

Independence fight of EOKA to unite Cyprus with Greece? :lol:

Plenty...

1955: Turkish Cypriots collaborate with the colonialist British to form the “Special Mobile Reserve” and Auxiliary Police to counter the EOKA uprising against the British.

1956: Turkish Cypriot “Special Mobile Reserve” and Auxiliary Police stood by as TC civilian mobs assaulted GC civilians and ransacked their properties. Abuse of Greek Cypriot detainees by the Turkish Cypriot Auxiliary Police was very common.

June 1957: Twelve days before the Macmillan plan was announced, Turkish Cypriots started fires in Nicosia and begun two months of bitter Greek-Turkish strife in which 56 Greeks and 53 Turks were killed.

7th June 1958: Turkish Cypriots plant and detonate a bomb outside the Turkish press office in Nicosia and implicate Greek Cypriots. There was an immediate invasion by Turkish rioters of the Greek sector, and Greek Cypriot residents were expelled from a mixed district.

12th June 1958: Eight unarmed Greek Cypriot civilians from Kondemenos village were murdered by Turkish Cypriots near the Turkish populated village of Geunyeli. First mass murder committed by Turkish Cypriots.

July 1958: In the mixed suburb of Omorphita in Nicosia, TMT evicted 700 Greeks from their homes.
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Postby Tony-4497 » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:35 am

insan wrote:
Tony-4497 wrote:
The way I saw it, TMT protected the enclaves from 63 onwards with the TCs surrounded from all sides. We had to cross countless crossing checks to get anywhere not that different to what the Palestinians are suffering today under Israel. Are you seriously saying that what TMT did and what Eoka did amount to the same thing?
You must be furkin jokin man.


Of course that's the way you saw it.. Turks tend to see everything in their own special way, which always happen to be different to how the rest of the world sees things.. here we go again..

Turkey set up the TMT terrorist group in 1957, 3 years before the 1960 agreements, and BEFORE ANY intercommunal violence took place. The stated aim of TMT was to prove that Greek and Turkish Cypriots could not co-exist and thus achieve partition.

The FIRST EVER intercommunal killings were those of 8 Gr-Cypriots in Kondemenos, by TMT, in 1958. I CHALLENGE you or any Turk here to contradict this with an earlier example. Denktash, a leader of TMT, admitted that TMT BOMBED TURKISH CYPRIOTS and then blamed it on Gr-Cypriots to cause violence. Also, TMT KILLED MANY TURKISH CYPRIOTS who would not follow her orders to isolate themselves from Gr-Cypriots, including many journalists.

The following is from the Tr-Cypriot newspaper Africa (12.02.03):

"Subtitle: How clashes started

After a bomb against the Information Office of the Turkish Consulate, on 12 June 1958 British security forces arrested 8 Greek Cypriots at Kondemenos village and transported them to the nearest Turkish Cypriot village Gunyeli, about 10 kilometres, and left them free. By order of TMT these Greek Cypriots were massacred by Turkish Cypriots. This was the first incident whereby blood was shed between the two communities. This massacre has been committed with the intention that the Greek Cypriots will retaliate. Behind this provocative murders there were people whom Denktas called "some of our friends". Mr Denktas admitted during statements to a British television that TMT was responsible for the bombing incident". "


If the problem was started in 1958, what was happening between the years 1955-1958?

Independence fight of EOKA to unite Cyprus with Greece? :lol:


Yes, the intercommunal problem was started in 1958, BY TMT

Before then, there was a fight against the British occupation and for self-determination..
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