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A possible warning signal...?

Postby Expatkiwi » Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:54 am

In Doha, (Qatar) the Trade and Tourism office of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus celebrated the 26th anniversary of the establishment of TRNC yesterday with the newly-arrived Turkish Ambassador-Designate to Qatar and the ambassadors from Pakistan, Azerbaijan, UAE, Mauritania and Tunisia attending the event.

With Ambassadors coming to this event, it could be interpreted as a signal that if the current inter-Cypriot negotiations between Talat and Christofas collapse, there are going to be a lot more sympathetic countries to the TRNC...
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Re: A possible warning signal...?

Postby wallace » Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:58 am

Expatkiwi wrote:In Doha, (Qatar) the Trade and Tourism office of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus celebrated the 26th anniversary of the establishment of TRNC yesterday with the newly-arrived Turkish Ambassador-Designate to Qatar and the ambassadors from Pakistan, Azerbaijan, UAE, Mauritania and Tunisia attending the event.

With Ambassadors coming to this event, it could be interpreted as a signal that if the current inter-Cypriot negotiations between Talat and Christofas collapse, there are going to be a lot more sympathetic countries to the TRNC...


Keep on dreaming :lol:
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Postby Piratis » Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:41 am

Those countries were always sympathetic to the Turks but they didn't dare to go against UN resolutions. What makes you think they will do so now, that Cyprus is an EU member and can affect the relationship of those countries with EU?
As Wallace said "Keep dreaming"
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Postby Expatkiwi » Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:19 pm

Piratis wrote:Those countries were always sympathetic to the Turks but they didn't dare to go against UN resolutions. What makes you think they will do so now, that Cyprus is an EU member and can affect the relationship of those countries with EU?
As Wallace said "Keep dreaming"


Remember Piratis; The UN resolutions state "calls upon" nations not to recognize TRNC, it doesn't say "directs", which means that the UN is asking, not ordering nations to comply. Therefore, any nation that decides to recognize TRNC is not actually flouting an order from the UN.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:23 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:
Piratis wrote:Those countries were always sympathetic to the Turks but they didn't dare to go against UN resolutions. What makes you think they will do so now, that Cyprus is an EU member and can affect the relationship of those countries with EU?
As Wallace said "Keep dreaming"


Remember Piratis; The UN resolutions state "calls upon" nations not to recognize TRNC, it doesn't say "directs", which means that the UN is asking, not ordering nations to comply. Therefore, any nation that decides to recognize TRNC is not actually flouting an order from the UN.

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Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:49 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:
Piratis wrote:Those countries were always sympathetic to the Turks but they didn't dare to go against UN resolutions. What makes you think they will do so now, that Cyprus is an EU member and can affect the relationship of those countries with EU?
As Wallace said "Keep dreaming"


Remember Piratis; The UN resolutions state "calls upon" nations not to recognize TRNC, it doesn't say "directs", which means that the UN is asking, not ordering nations to comply. Therefore, any nation that decides to recognize TRNC is not actually flouting an order from the UN.


Source: The American Heritage Dictionary

call upon

1- To order; require.

2- To make a demand or a series of demands on.
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Postby Expatkiwi » Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:34 pm

In diplo-speak, "call-upon" means to "strongly urge". I have a friend in the State Department who told me about the usage of the term. "Directs" is the terminology for compulsion. The latter term was used in the UNSC resolutions regarding the mandatory arms embargo against Apartheid South Africa.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:13 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:In diplo-speak, "call-upon" means to "strongly urge". I have a friend in the State Department who told me about the usage of the term. "Directs" is the terminology for compulsion. The latter term was used in the UNSC resolutions regarding the mandatory arms embargo against Apartheid South Africa.

Not clear enough for you eh?

1. Deplores the declaration of the Turkish Cypriot authorities of the purported secession of part of the Republic of Cyprus;

2. Considers the declaration referred to above as legally invalid and calls for its withdrawal;


http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm
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Postby Expatkiwi » Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:28 pm

Get Real! wrote:Not clear enough for you eh?

1. Deplores the declaration of the Turkish Cypriot authorities of the purported secession of part of the Republic of Cyprus;

2. Considers the declaration referred to above as legally invalid and calls for its withdrawal;


http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm


"Deplores", not "Condemns". "Considers", not "Judges". "Calls for", not "Orders".
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Postby Sotos » Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:34 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Not clear enough for you eh?

1. Deplores the declaration of the Turkish Cypriot authorities of the purported secession of part of the Republic of Cyprus;

2. Considers the declaration referred to above as legally invalid and calls for its withdrawal;


http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm


"Deplores", not "Condemns". "Considers", not "Judges". "Calls for", not "Orders".


"Clutching at straws" not "resort in desperation to unlikely or inadequate means of salvation" :lol:
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