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26th Anniversary of the UDI

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Postby insan » Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:07 am

Talisker wrote:What could be sadder than singing on your own for a birthday no one else acknowledges?



It is not sad actually when u know why others r not able to acknowledge it yet... No more concessions for the sake of keeping the NATO stable... we r at the end of the road we have been walking since 1955...

Even if majority of 2 communities choose a new road to walk together in a united Cyprus; I don't believe they have the ability to govern a bi-communal state under the circumstances of Cyprus.

All roads lead to 2 seperate states... and time is approaching for others to acknowledge this...
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Postby bill cobbett » Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:36 am

Reh Insan, wake up, for goodness sake.

There will never, ever, be two seperate states.

That would have been brought home to you in a way that you haven't experienced before if you could have joined our Jerry and me in the GB court yesterday when paragraphs from various treaties and UN resolutions (including the one that Sotos posts above) were read out to the court, and those that weren't read out were referrred to by title.

it really did emphasise to me that International policy is and always will be to respect the integrity and sovereignty of the Republic.
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Postby DT. » Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:15 am

I gotta say, I'm loving Sotos's flag :D

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Postby insan » Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:21 am

bill cobbett wrote:Reh Insan, wake up, for goodness sake.

There will never, ever, be two seperate states.

That would have been brought home to you in a way that you haven't experienced before if you could have joined our Jerry and me in the GB court yesterday when paragraphs from various treaties and UN resolutions (including the one that Sotos posts above) were read out to the court, and those that weren't read out were referrred to by title.

it really did emphasise to me that International policy is and always will be to respect the integrity and sovereignty of the Republic.


Reh Billy, as they had done in the last 45 years? After 45 years u still have hope that Cyprus will be reunited and the incapables of both sides will be able to govern that bi-communal state?

In the past, circumstances were different... now theresn't much fragility in NATO...

Nothing remains same...
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Postby Jerry » Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:47 pm

DT. wrote:I gotta say, I'm loving Sotos's flag :D

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I think it's crap :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby insan » Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:55 pm

bill cobbett wrote:Reh Insan, wake up, for goodness sake.

There will never, ever, be two seperate states.

That would have been brought home to you in a way that you haven't experienced before if you could have joined our Jerry and me in the GB court yesterday when paragraphs from various treaties and UN resolutions (including the one that Sotos posts above) were read out to the court, and those that weren't read out were referrred to by title.

it really did emphasise to me that International policy is and always will be to respect the integrity and sovereignty of the Republic.


Listen to ur community reh Bill..

EU survey highlights Cypriot prejudices
By Victoria Soboleva

THE MAJORITY of Cypriots believe discrimination over ethnic origin is widespread on the island, according to a European poll.

The Eurobarometer poll found 70 per cent of Cypriots believe that discrimination on the basis of ethnic origin is widespread, exceeding the European average of 61 per cent


http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=48839

Even u Bill have no chance to coexist with ur compatriots either. :lol: :wink:

According to the poll, 66 per cent of Cypriots believe discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation is also widespread, compared to EU average of 47 per cent.

Furthermore, 37 per cent of Cypriots feel intolerance towards homosexuality is likely to put gay candidates for employment at a disadvantage. Eighteen per cent of Europeans share the same view.


http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=48839
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Postby bill cobbett » Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:00 pm

insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Reh Insan, wake up, for goodness sake.

There will never, ever, be two seperate states.

That would have been brought home to you in a way that you haven't experienced before if you could have joined our Jerry and me in the GB court yesterday when paragraphs from various treaties and UN resolutions (including the one that Sotos posts above) were read out to the court, and those that weren't read out were referrred to by title.

it really did emphasise to me that International policy is and always will be to respect the integrity and sovereignty of the Republic.


Listen to ur community reh Bill..

EU survey highlights Cypriot prejudices
By Victoria Soboleva

THE MAJORITY of Cypriots believe discrimination over ethnic origin is widespread on the island, according to a European poll.

The Eurobarometer poll found 70 per cent of Cypriots believe that discrimination on the basis of ethnic origin is widespread, exceeding the European average of 61 per cent


http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=48839

Even u Bill have no chance to coexist with ur compatriots either. :lol: :wink:

According to the poll, 66 per cent of Cypriots believe discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation is also widespread, compared to EU average of 47 per cent.

Furthermore, 37 per cent of Cypriots feel intolerance towards homosexuality is likely to put gay candidates for employment at a disadvantage. Eighteen per cent of Europeans share the same view.


http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=48839


Reh Insaeenee,

What the f has your reply got to do with my post ?

If you have evidence of a break by the International Community in respecting the sovereignity, integrity and indivisabilty of the Republic please post it.
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Postby YFred » Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:39 pm

Jerry wrote:
DT. wrote:I gotta say, I'm loving Sotos's flag :D



I think it's crap :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Well, you know the saying like for like. Crap gets attracted to crap, does it not?
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Postby insan » Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:05 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Reh Insan, wake up, for goodness sake.

There will never, ever, be two seperate states.

That would have been brought home to you in a way that you haven't experienced before if you could have joined our Jerry and me in the GB court yesterday when paragraphs from various treaties and UN resolutions (including the one that Sotos posts above) were read out to the court, and those that weren't read out were referrred to by title.

it really did emphasise to me that International policy is and always will be to respect the integrity and sovereignty of the Republic.


Listen to ur community reh Bill..

EU survey highlights Cypriot prejudices
By Victoria Soboleva

THE MAJORITY of Cypriots believe discrimination over ethnic origin is widespread on the island, according to a European poll.

The Eurobarometer poll found 70 per cent of Cypriots believe that discrimination on the basis of ethnic origin is widespread, exceeding the European average of 61 per cent


http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=48839

Even u Bill have no chance to coexist with ur compatriots either. :lol: :wink:

According to the poll, 66 per cent of Cypriots believe discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation is also widespread, compared to EU average of 47 per cent.

Furthermore, 37 per cent of Cypriots feel intolerance towards homosexuality is likely to put gay candidates for employment at a disadvantage. Eighteen per cent of Europeans share the same view.


http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=48839


Reh Insaeenee,

What the f has your reply got to do with my post ?

If you have evidence of a break by the International Community in respecting the sovereignity, integrity and indivisabilty of the Republic please post it.


Reh Billy, I well know the past 35 years(even since 1878) and also the current negotiation process. As I said i neither ever have any hope 2 leaders woul reach a comprehensive solution agreeable for majority of 2 communities nor in case of such comrehensive solution plan accepted, they would be able to run a bi-communal state for more than 6 months.

So, what do u think we and international community should focus on under such circumstances? Keep running around the same circles and go nowhere? U tell me...
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Postby halil » Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:45 pm

SPEECHES AT PARADE

The President of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus Mehmet Ali Talat said that the Turks of Cyprus are today celebrating the establishment of the TRNC which is a concrete expression of its right for self determination.

Making his speech at the military parade that took place at the Dr Fazil Kucuk Boulevard today, the President pointed to the fact that the Turkish Cypriots had announced to the world its desire for a solution through TRNC institutions.

‘By putting forward our desire for a solution we have glorified the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and we have made its acceptance by the world a little more possible, but not as a separate existence but as the lawful representative of the Turkish Cypriots ’.

During his speech the President also called on the Greek Cypriot people by saying ‘I want to remind our Greek Cypriot friends of the good will message that is in the TRNC’s declaration of establishment. The Turkish Cypriots are ready to share this beautiful island with you. Come and contribute towards the solution process. Don’t prevent our beautiful island from being an island of friendship and cooperation.’

Turkish Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Cyprus Affairs Cemil Cicek also addressed the crowds at the parade.

He noted that Turkey too is making efforts for peace in the region and is showing great support on the Cyprus issue.

Cicek said ‘the talks going on about the Cyprus issue could not last forever’ and added that ‘everyone must understand that the window of opportunity will not stay open forever also’.

He also pointed to the importance of the solution to be reached to be a lasting one.

‘We will never allow the solution to be found to be obliterated within the European Union’ said Cemil Cicek.

The Turkish Minister said Turkey supports a comprehensive solution being found to the Cyprus problem and will always stand by the Turkish Cypriots.

He concluded by saying ‘we will never allow the Turkish Cypriots to pay for the non solution of the Cyprus problem’.

Messages have been issued by many political parties and non governmental organizations to mark the significance of the 26th anniversary of the establishment of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus Prime Minister Dervis Eroglu in his message emphasized that our state is our futures guarantee.

He reiterated once again that the Turks of Cyprus will not just accept any solution and added that ‘the Turks of Cyprus are not without alternatives. The alternative is the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus’.

Eroglu said the Turks of Cyprus are determined to continue to exist as in the past with the support of motherland Turkey.

The Prime Minister said the biggest responsibility is to leave behind a future for the coming generations which is established on a solid basis and added that the gains obtained with the establishment of the Republic cannot be wasted for small gains and to please others.

He concluded his message by saying that the rights of the Cyprus Turks and interests must be secured.


MANY POLITICAL PARTIES ISSUE MESSAGES MARKING THE SIGNIFICANCE OF REPUBLIC DAY

The leader of the Republican Turkish Party United Forces Ferdi Sabit Soyer also issued a message on the 26th anniversary of the TRNC.

He drew attention to the fact that even before the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus had been established the Turkish Cypriots had been struggling for political equality throughout all of its history.

Soyer said the establishment of the TRNC had been announced in 1983 and was based on the 1977-1979 summit agreements which aimed to form an equal partnership in a Federal Cyprus

The Freedom and Reform Party leader Turgay Avci in his message said that his party is known as the protectors of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.

He said the ORP is celebrating the Republic Day with joy, happiness and pride and added that the Republics 26 anniversary is the symbol of sovereignty and freedom.

Avic also called on the Greek Cypriot side to wake up from their dreams of trying to make the Turkish Cypriots a minority on the island.

THE Democrat Party in its message said that the Turkish Cypriots had always done what was necessary to reach an agreement in Cyprus.

Noting that during the 24th of April 2004 referenda on the island the solution and the European Union vision had been riveted, the outcome of the referenda does not mean the Turkish Cypriots were giving up on their statehood or their Republic.

The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus’s Declaration of Independence states that the partnership between the two peoples on the island will be renewed and any problems that exist between the two peoples on the island can be solved through peace and compromise policies.

‘It’s in this respect that the TRNC is structured on peace and tranquility’ reads the message.

Mehmet Cakici the leader of the Communal Democracy Party in his message said the non solution of the Cyprus problem is working against the Turkish Cypriots everyday and therefore a just and permanent solution must be found as soon as possible.
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