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[yialousa1971]

It wasn't that long ago when, by decree of the English, schoolkids in Wales were being punished for speaking Welsh So, it just goes to show the stupidity of the typical BNP representative.....

I have no sympathy with the BNP.

But, the Brits did come and force upon us a Constitution which gave nearly half our country's power to a bunch of invaders similar to the ones they are objecting to, under their very own noses, now.

So, "Nemesis" is all I can say; and unless they help us get rid of our un-integrated belligerent "own-state"-demanding invaders; we ain't gonna help/sympathise with their problem! So there!

Thats why the Welsh and Scottish should go it alone, most Anglos are only interested in making money, it is their God. They also are the biggest Turkophiles! As for the BNP they have had a Turk don't know if hes still their. And theirs that little shit Arthur Kemp who is the biggest Greek hater. Anglos have no problem using non Whites against other Europeans ie. letting loose Negroes against Germans and Italians and Turks against Greeks and Serbs.

More ignorant, racist garbage.

But the most painful memories for the locals are the ones of the general Juin's corpse. A great number of Italian sources quote the speech, he allegedly delivered on the 14th of May, 1944, appealing to his exotic troops, which consisted mostly of Moroccans and Tunisians:

“Beyond these mountains, beyond the backs of enemy soldiers, whom you'd kill, lies the land with the rich houses, with the women and wine. If you will get over these mountains, your general swears to you, that you will be the absolute masters of all this — dames, houses, spirits, — of everything that you will find. For 50 hours. You can take, ravage and do whatever you want. Nobody will punish you for what you will do, nobody will ask you about what you will get up.”

Twelve thousands of Arabs, that broke through the German line of defense were murdering, sacking and raping everyone like the Genghis Khan army. And that lasted not for 50 hours but until the end of May, 1944. According to the most cautious estimates about five thousand of men and women aged from 5 to 85 years were raped and murdered. At the place Santa Maria di Esperia, which is not far from Monte Cassino, priest Alberto Terrilli fell victim for them, and died a few days after that. Arabs have slaughtered 90% of the cattle (and not because they were starving). When these news reached the ears of the Pope Pius XII, he appealed to general De-Gaulle, asking not to let the Arabs to enter the Rome. Expeditionary corps was brought back to its quarters. Italian historians believe that it was revenge for the Italian bombings of the civil French cities in the June of 1940. Alberto Moravia has written his story “La Ciociara”8, which familiarizes readers with the fates of the women, who were raped by Arabs. Great Italian filmmaker Vittorio de Sica has later made a screen version of the novel, with Sophia Loren in the lead role. Italian historians have even put the new term “Marrochinate” in practice, describing these remote events of 1944.

And that's how Winston Churchill describes this history in his memoirs:

French Corpse has occupied the Monte du Maio and general Juin has instantly moved his motorized division up the river Garigliano, in order to occupy San Ambrogio and San Apollinare, thus clearing the whole western bank of the river. 13th Corpse has managed to breach even deeper into the strong enemy lines of defense on the other bank of the river Rapido. On the 14th of May, having been reinforced by the 78th division, it has successfully started to push further into the enemy's territory. Frenchmen started their offensive in the Ausente Valley again and captured Ausonia. Then general Juin moved his Goumiers9 through the impassable mountains to the West from Ausonia. The American Corpse has managed to occupy the settlement of Santa Maria Infante, for which they've been fighting for a long time. Two German divisions situated on this flank had to endure the attacks of six divisions of the 5th Army. They've sustained huge casualties and the whole right wing of the German army to the South of the river Liri has fallen to pieces.

Despite the breakdown of the wing that adjoined the seashore, to the North of the river Liri enemy was fiercely clutching at the last sectors of the Gustav line. But little by little the Allied forces have been overcoming their resistance. On the 15th of May 13th Corpse has reached the road Cassino-Pignatore and general Leese10 brought up the Canadian Corpse to exploit its success. On the next day, while 78th division was advancing in the North-West direction, it has breached through enemy's defense and reached the freeway №6 and on the 17th of May Poles attempted the attack to the North from the monastery. This time their attack was successful and they have occupied the heights to the North-West from the abbey — the ones that were rising above the highway.

In the morning of 18th of May the town of Cassino was finally cleared by the 4th British division, and the Poles have solemnly raised their white-red banner above the ruins of the monastery. Though they were not the first to enter the place, they have really distinguished themselves in their first major battle in Italy. Later on, being under the command of the swift general Anders, who has been a prisoner in Russia himself, they've put up a fine show during the continuous offensive towards the river Po.

There is not a single word about the insensate savage bombings of the US Air Force, not a single word about the barbarian cruelty of the Goumiers, and even monastery was captured by the British 4th division, rather than the Poles. That's the historical truth we have. The situation with the historical justice hasn't gone far from that. General Alfons Juin has never been accused of the war crimes. After the war he has become the Head of the French General Staff having a rank of marshal and even commanded the NATO forces in Europe.

By Gregory Tinsky

In May 1944 Allied forces bombed
and shelled the sixth-century abbey of Monte Cassino to rubble, forcing
the German defenders there to withdraw. Among the Allied troops was a
division of Moroccan soldiers. Even then the Allies wanted to have
"diversity" among their forces in order to show the world that they
believed in racial equality.

Well, the Moroccans weren't much as fighters, but they were pretty good
at cutting the throats of prisoners after the fighting was over. And
they also excelled at raping civilians -- and prisoners too,
occasionally, buggery being an established tradition among them. The
night after the Germans had withdrawn, the Moroccans -- 12,000 of them
-- left their camp and swarmed over the mountain villages around Monte
Cassino. They raped every village woman and girl they could get their
hands on, an estimated 3,000 women, ranging in age from 11 years to 86
years old. They murdered 800 village men who tried to protect their
women. They abused some of the women so badly that more than 100 of them
died. They selected the prettiest girls for gang-raping, with long lines
of dark-skinned Moroccans waiting their turn in front of each one, while
other Moroccans held the victims down. And they raped some of the young
men as well.

William Pierce

Please explain the above war crimes, if you can't then shut up!

[Twilight]

So much injustice in this our planet ... makes me think of the ten commandments .. that are so difficult to follow .. I am no academic , just a normal working woman . The help that UK recieved many many moons ago , is now repaying all the counties ,that at one time made Great Britain, Great ! Can we not al live together in harmony , no thats an ideal world . I saw the acute poverty in India , on my travels as a young girl , the scenes stayed with me. The greed of all the governments have lead to this appaling state of the world and destroyed the goodness in the human race. Myself have a melting pot of nationalities in my family and am dearly blessed . God rest my Father whom instilled acceptance of all religions and nationalities within me to be respectful of them. In UK today it appears to be what looks good on paper regime and not what is actully happening re But he claims his concerns were ignored because she wanted to maintain the school's 'good' Ofsted rating.

Just my own thoughts not pushing them on anyone else ..... Excuse spellin mistakes if any , but just finished my night duty ...read this ..and just had to comment ...No offense to anyone meant .....

[Talisker]

It wasn't that long ago when, by decree of the English, schoolkids in Wales were being punished for speaking Welsh So, it just goes to show the stupidity of the typical BNP representative.....

I have no sympathy with the BNP.

But, the Brits did come and force upon us a Constitution which gave nearly half our country's power to a bunch of invaders similar to the ones they are objecting to, under their very own noses, now.

So, "Nemesis" is all I can say; and unless they help us get rid of our un-integrated belligerent "own-state"-demanding invaders; we ain't gonna help/sympathise with their problem! So there!

Thats why the Welsh and Scottish should go it alone, most Anglos are only interested in making money, it is their God. They also are the biggest Turkophiles! As for the BNP they have had a Turk don't know if hes still their. And theirs that little shit Arthur Kemp who is the biggest Greek hater. Anglos have no problem using non Whites against other Europeans ie. letting loose Negroes against Germans and Italians and Turks against Greeks and Serbs.

More ignorant, racist garbage.

But the most painful memories for the locals are the ones of the general Juin's corpse. A great number of Italian sources quote the speech, he allegedly delivered on the 14th of May, 1944, appealing to his exotic troops, which consisted mostly of Moroccans and Tunisians:

“Beyond these mountains, beyond the backs of enemy soldiers, whom you'd kill, lies the land with the rich houses, with the women and wine. If you will get over these mountains, your general swears to you, that you will be the absolute masters of all this — dames, houses, spirits, — of everything that you will find. For 50 hours. You can take, ravage and do whatever you want. Nobody will punish you for what you will do, nobody will ask you about what you will get up.”

Twelve thousands of Arabs, that broke through the German line of defense were murdering, sacking and raping everyone like the Genghis Khan army. And that lasted not for 50 hours but until the end of May, 1944. According to the most cautious estimates about five thousand of men and women aged from 5 to 85 years were raped and murdered. At the place Santa Maria di Esperia, which is not far from Monte Cassino, priest Alberto Terrilli fell victim for them, and died a few days after that. Arabs have slaughtered 90% of the cattle (and not because they were starving). When these news reached the ears of the Pope Pius XII, he appealed to general De-Gaulle, asking not to let the Arabs to enter the Rome. Expeditionary corps was brought back to its quarters. Italian historians believe that it was revenge for the Italian bombings of the civil French cities in the June of 1940. Alberto Moravia has written his story “La Ciociara”8, which familiarizes readers with the fates of the women, who were raped by Arabs. Great Italian filmmaker Vittorio de Sica has later made a screen version of the novel, with Sophia Loren in the lead role. Italian historians have even put the new term “Marrochinate” in practice, describing these remote events of 1944.

And that's how Winston Churchill describes this history in his memoirs:

French Corpse has occupied the Monte du Maio and general Juin has instantly moved his motorized division up the river Garigliano, in order to occupy San Ambrogio and San Apollinare, thus clearing the whole western bank of the river. 13th Corpse has managed to breach even deeper into the strong enemy lines of defense on the other bank of the river Rapido. On the 14th of May, having been reinforced by the 78th division, it has successfully started to push further into the enemy's territory. Frenchmen started their offensive in the Ausente Valley again and captured Ausonia. Then general Juin moved his Goumiers9 through the impassable mountains to the West from Ausonia. The American Corpse has managed to occupy the settlement of Santa Maria Infante, for which they've been fighting for a long time. Two German divisions situated on this flank had to endure the attacks of six divisions of the 5th Army. They've sustained huge casualties and the whole right wing of the German army to the South of the river Liri has fallen to pieces.

Despite the breakdown of the wing that adjoined the seashore, to the North of the river Liri enemy was fiercely clutching at the last sectors of the Gustav line. But little by little the Allied forces have been overcoming their resistance. On the 15th of May 13th Corpse has reached the road Cassino-Pignatore and general Leese10 brought up the Canadian Corpse to exploit its success. On the next day, while 78th division was advancing in the North-West direction, it has breached through enemy's defense and reached the freeway №6 and on the 17th of May Poles attempted the attack to the North from the monastery. This time their attack was successful and they have occupied the heights to the North-West from the abbey — the ones that were rising above the highway.

In the morning of 18th of May the town of Cassino was finally cleared by the 4th British division, and the Poles have solemnly raised their white-red banner above the ruins of the monastery. Though they were not the first to enter the place, they have really distinguished themselves in their first major battle in Italy. Later on, being under the command of the swift general Anders, who has been a prisoner in Russia himself, they've put up a fine show during the continuous offensive towards the river Po.

There is not a single word about the insensate savage bombings of the US Air Force, not a single word about the barbarian cruelty of the Goumiers, and even monastery was captured by the British 4th division, rather than the Poles. That's the historical truth we have. The situation with the historical justice hasn't gone far from that. General Alfons Juin has never been accused of the war crimes. After the war he has become the Head of the French General Staff having a rank of marshal and even commanded the NATO forces in Europe.

By Gregory Tinsky

In May 1944 Allied forces bombed
and shelled the sixth-century abbey of Monte Cassino to rubble, forcing
the German defenders there to withdraw. Among the Allied troops was a
division of Moroccan soldiers. Even then the Allies wanted to have
"diversity" among their forces in order to show the world that they
believed in racial equality.

Well, the Moroccans weren't much as fighters, but they were pretty good
at cutting the throats of prisoners after the fighting was over. And
they also excelled at raping civilians -- and prisoners too,
occasionally, buggery being an established tradition among them. The
night after the Germans had withdrawn, the Moroccans -- 12,000 of them
-- left their camp and swarmed over the mountain villages around Monte
Cassino. They raped every village woman and girl they could get their
hands on, an estimated 3,000 women, ranging in age from 11 years to 86
years old. They murdered 800 village men who tried to protect their
women. They abused some of the women so badly that more than 100 of them
died. They selected the prettiest girls for gang-raping, with long lines
of dark-skinned Moroccans waiting their turn in front of each one, while
other Moroccans held the victims down. And they raped some of the young
men as well.

William Pierce

Please explain the above war crimes, if you can't then shut up!

Interesting to see your attempt to engender further racist propaganda from this selected episode from WW2. Perhaps you need to brush up on your history?

Yes, I can explain the presence of Tunisians and Moroccans (considered by you to be 'Negroes') with the Allies in Italy. WW2 was a 'world war', and yes North Africa was involved. The Allies ('Anglos' to you) were ultimately victorious in this campaign, and then launched an offensive on Italy accompanied by soldiers from North African countries. I don't doubt that some of the actions attributed to these soldiers happened - this is unfortunately a common occurence as soldiers advance during military actions.

If you chose NOT to make a racist issue of this you would acknowledge the much better known actions of Russian forces invading Germany when rape of any woman was virtually de rigeur.

In exactly the same way as the BNP attempt to make racist propaganda by selecting an area in London which happens to have a high proportion of 'non-whites' (because it is one of the poorest and most deprived areas of London?) in the video Cap posted to start this thread, you have carefully chosen your examples of WW2 war crimes (none of which I condone) in an attempt to promote the idea that only 'Negroes' from Africa would undertake rapes on civilians (or prisoners) in WW2.

Yes, I can see clearly you are a racist extremist, and would fit very easily within the BNP way of thinking. They too would wish to 'shut up' anyone who opposes their views, and you have attempted the same tactic with your final statement, 'if you can't then shut up'. So yes 'I can explain' and no, I will not 'shut up' on this issue. I intensely dislike racist extremists such as yourself who select 'facts' from history to propagate racist hatred. Of course you may just be ignorant. Which is it - racist or ignorant?

[yialousa1971]

It wasn't that long ago when, by decree of the English, schoolkids in Wales were being punished for speaking Welsh So, it just goes to show the stupidity of the typical BNP representative.....

I have no sympathy with the BNP.

But, the Brits did come and force upon us a Constitution which gave nearly half our country's power to a bunch of invaders similar to the ones they are objecting to, under their very own noses, now.

So, "Nemesis" is all I can say; and unless they help us get rid of our un-integrated belligerent "own-state"-demanding invaders; we ain't gonna help/sympathise with their problem! So there!

Thats why the Welsh and Scottish should go it alone, most Anglos are only interested in making money, it is their God. They also are the biggest Turkophiles! As for the BNP they have had a Turk don't know if hes still their. And theirs that little shit Arthur Kemp who is the biggest Greek hater. Anglos have no problem using non Whites against other Europeans ie. letting loose Negroes against Germans and Italians and Turks against Greeks and Serbs.

More ignorant, racist garbage.

But the most painful memories for the locals are the ones of the general Juin's corpse. A great number of Italian sources quote the speech, he allegedly delivered on the 14th of May, 1944, appealing to his exotic troops, which consisted mostly of Moroccans and Tunisians:

“Beyond these mountains, beyond the backs of enemy soldiers, whom you'd kill, lies the land with the rich houses, with the women and wine. If you will get over these mountains, your general swears to you, that you will be the absolute masters of all this — dames, houses, spirits, — of everything that you will find. For 50 hours. You can take, ravage and do whatever you want. Nobody will punish you for what you will do, nobody will ask you about what you will get up.”

Twelve thousands of Arabs, that broke through the German line of defense were murdering, sacking and raping everyone like the Genghis Khan army. And that lasted not for 50 hours but until the end of May, 1944. According to the most cautious estimates about five thousand of men and women aged from 5 to 85 years were raped and murdered. At the place Santa Maria di Esperia, which is not far from Monte Cassino, priest Alberto Terrilli fell victim for them, and died a few days after that. Arabs have slaughtered 90% of the cattle (and not because they were starving). When these news reached the ears of the Pope Pius XII, he appealed to general De-Gaulle, asking not to let the Arabs to enter the Rome. Expeditionary corps was brought back to its quarters. Italian historians believe that it was revenge for the Italian bombings of the civil French cities in the June of 1940. Alberto Moravia has written his story “La Ciociara”8, which familiarizes readers with the fates of the women, who were raped by Arabs. Great Italian filmmaker Vittorio de Sica has later made a screen version of the novel, with Sophia Loren in the lead role. Italian historians have even put the new term “Marrochinate” in practice, describing these remote events of 1944.

And that's how Winston Churchill describes this history in his memoirs:

French Corpse has occupied the Monte du Maio and general Juin has instantly moved his motorized division up the river Garigliano, in order to occupy San Ambrogio and San Apollinare, thus clearing the whole western bank of the river. 13th Corpse has managed to breach even deeper into the strong enemy lines of defense on the other bank of the river Rapido. On the 14th of May, having been reinforced by the 78th division, it has successfully started to push further into the enemy's territory. Frenchmen started their offensive in the Ausente Valley again and captured Ausonia. Then general Juin moved his Goumiers9 through the impassable mountains to the West from Ausonia. The American Corpse has managed to occupy the settlement of Santa Maria Infante, for which they've been fighting for a long time. Two German divisions situated on this flank had to endure the attacks of six divisions of the 5th Army. They've sustained huge casualties and the whole right wing of the German army to the South of the river Liri has fallen to pieces.

Despite the breakdown of the wing that adjoined the seashore, to the North of the river Liri enemy was fiercely clutching at the last sectors of the Gustav line. But little by little the Allied forces have been overcoming their resistance. On the 15th of May 13th Corpse has reached the road Cassino-Pignatore and general Leese10 brought up the Canadian Corpse to exploit its success. On the next day, while 78th division was advancing in the North-West direction, it has breached through enemy's defense and reached the freeway №6 and on the 17th of May Poles attempted the attack to the North from the monastery. This time their attack was successful and they have occupied the heights to the North-West from the abbey — the ones that were rising above the highway.

In the morning of 18th of May the town of Cassino was finally cleared by the 4th British division, and the Poles have solemnly raised their white-red banner above the ruins of the monastery. Though they were not the first to enter the place, they have really distinguished themselves in their first major battle in Italy. Later on, being under the command of the swift general Anders, who has been a prisoner in Russia himself, they've put up a fine show during the continuous offensive towards the river Po.

There is not a single word about the insensate savage bombings of the US Air Force, not a single word about the barbarian cruelty of the Goumiers, and even monastery was captured by the British 4th division, rather than the Poles. That's the historical truth we have. The situation with the historical justice hasn't gone far from that. General Alfons Juin has never been accused of the war crimes. After the war he has become the Head of the French General Staff having a rank of marshal and even commanded the NATO forces in Europe.

By Gregory Tinsky

In May 1944 Allied forces bombed
and shelled the sixth-century abbey of Monte Cassino to rubble, forcing
the German defenders there to withdraw. Among the Allied troops was a
division of Moroccan soldiers. Even then the Allies wanted to have
"diversity" among their forces in order to show the world that they
believed in racial equality.

Well, the Moroccans weren't much as fighters, but they were pretty good
at cutting the throats of prisoners after the fighting was over. And
they also excelled at raping civilians -- and prisoners too,
occasionally, buggery being an established tradition among them. The
night after the Germans had withdrawn, the Moroccans -- 12,000 of them
-- left their camp and swarmed over the mountain villages around Monte
Cassino. They raped every village woman and girl they could get their
hands on, an estimated 3,000 women, ranging in age from 11 years to 86
years old. They murdered 800 village men who tried to protect their
women. They abused some of the women so badly that more than 100 of them
died. They selected the prettiest girls for gang-raping, with long lines
of dark-skinned Moroccans waiting their turn in front of each one, while
other Moroccans held the victims down. And they raped some of the young
men as well.

William Pierce

Please explain the above war crimes, if you can't then shut up!

Interesting to see your attempt to engender further racist propaganda from this selected episode from WW2. Perhaps you need to brush up on your history?

Yes, I can explain the presence of Tunisians and Moroccans (considered by you to be 'Negroes') with the Allies in Italy. WW2 was a 'world war', and yes North Africa was involved. The Allies ('Anglos' to you) were ultimately victorious in this campaign, and then launched an offensive on Italy accompanied by soldiers from North African countries. I don't doubt that some of the actions attributed to these soldiers happened - this is unfortunately a common occurence as soldiers advance during military actions.

If you chose NOT to make a racist issue of this you would acknowledge the much better known actions of Russian forces invading Germany when rape of any woman was virtually de rigeur.

In exactly the same way as the BNP attempt to make racist propaganda by selecting an area in London which happens to have a high proportion of 'non-whites' (because it is one of the poorest and most deprived areas of London?) in the video Cap posted to start this thread, you have carefully chosen your examples of WW2 war crimes (none of which I condone) in an attempt to promote the idea that only 'Negroes' from Africa would undertake rapes on civilians (or prisoners) in WW2.

Yes, I can see clearly you are a racist extremist, and would fit very easily within the BNP way of thinking. They too would wish to 'shut up' anyone who opposes their views, and you have attempted the same tactic with your final statement, 'if you can't then shut up'. So yes 'I can explain' and no, I will not 'shut up' on this issue. I intensely dislike racist extremists such as yourself who select 'facts' from history to propagate racist hatred. Of course you may just be ignorant. Which is it - racist or ignorant?

Thank you very much for your kind words. It is you that sounds like the extremist thou!

[Tim Drayton]

At a time when I was quite happily living as a minority white person in a predominantly Asian area of Hounslow, I happened to hear Nick Griffin interviewed on the BBC's Newsnight programme where he outlined his glorious vision of a forcibly racially segregated Britian. By chance, I had Griffin's mobile phone number, thanks to a left-wing newspaper which had published it, so I called this gentleman and inquired whether, to achieve his vision, jack-booted thugs would turn up one day and take me away at gunpoint to resettle me in what his party had deteremined should be a white zone. He was a bit taken aback and assured me that I had misunderstood his point in the interview and that nobody would actually be forcibly resettled. I still do not understand how you can have forcible segregation without forcible resettlement. Leaving that point aside, I find it hypocritical in the extreme that a party which supports forcible segregation, i.e. the conscious creation of ghettoes, can then turn round and make a video which attempts to make political capital from the very consequences of ghettoisation. I would suggest that the failure to integrate certain immigrant communities poses one of the greatest dangers for the future of Britain.

[pissouri]

the British are now paying for their grandfathers sins.

I think the brits can now see what the Serbs were going through in Kosovo. Give it time and there will be a call for independence from England for Bradford & Birmingham.

[pissouri]

Let us hope the Brits in Peyia don't start wanting independence.

[Tim Drayton]

Let us hope the Brits in Peyia don't start wanting independence.

I wonder how hard some of the neo-fascist Brits who have taken up residence in the Paphos district are trying to intergrate with their adopted country. I had Cyprus village bread, halloumi cheese and olives for breakfast this morning. What did they have?

[pissouri]

Let us hope the Brits in Peyia don't start wanting independence.

I wonder how hard some of the neo-fascist Brits who have taken up residence in the Paphos district are trying to intergrate with their adopted country. I had Cyprus village bread, halloumi cheese and olives for breakfast this morning. What did they have?

I had English Breakfast, PG Tips Tea while watching Eastenders on my SKY satelite TV, outside on my balcony with my sandals and white socks on, with my St George's flag hung across my balcony rails, complaining how expensive everything is, why I can't be cremated in Cyprus and why the shop assitant at the local supermarket doesn't speak english.

[Tim Drayton]

Let us hope the Brits in Peyia don't start wanting independence.

I wonder how hard some of the neo-fascist Brits who have taken up residence in the Paphos district are trying to intergrate with their adopted country. I had Cyprus village bread, halloumi cheese and olives for breakfast this morning. What did they have?

I had English Breakfast, PG Tips Tea while watching Eastenders on my SKY satelite TV, outside on my balcony with my sandals and white socks on, with my St George's flag hung across my balcony rails, complaining how expensive everything is, why I can't be cremated in Cyprus and why the shop assitant at the local supermarket doesn't speak english.

You are being sarcastic, I know, but this is precisely my point. British immigrants to Cyprus are creating little Britains in places like Pissouri and Peyia, just as first generation Cypriot immigrants once created a little Cyprus along Green Lanes in Harringay or Pakistanis have done in certain mill towns in the north of England. Is it not highly hypocritical for such people, who themseleves make not the slightest effort to learn Greek let alone Cypriot Greek and integrate into local society here, to criticise others for failing to make any affort to integrate into their adopted country?