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[iceman]

David Haye DOES NOT own any property in north Cyprus...
He rents a villa,from a TC.

He may be "renting" whilst he builds his villa on "cheap property" ... according to the original times article from last May ...

However, he loved the climate, the quiet and that property was very cheap, and he decided to plant his flag.

They then decided to put down roots and build properly. They rebuilt it from scratch, complete with a small kitchen, two bedsits for sparring partners and three marble-floored showers that are quite possibly Haye’s favourite topic of conversation.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=448007

Well if he fancies to build his own place, then it will definitely be on a Turkish title deed property just like his Gym in Ozankoy (Kazaphani) and there is fuck all anyone can do about that!!
Plenty of Turkish title deed properties in Ozankoy..

Firstly, what are "Turkish title deeds"?

Secondly, are you suggesting the Turk-TCs have not been 'selling' GC owned land for building on?

(What is the Orams' case all about then?)

Finally, why are you so "protective" of Hayes? We don't know his precise situation; but the Times did publish what he said and nowhere did it suggest he was merely "renting" (i.e. temporary). Has he been advised of his "error"?

Turkish title deed is what we call over here for properties that belong to TC's pre 1974..

You might not know his precise situation but i do...I have known him since he arrived in Cyprus couple of years ago and he happens to be a friend of mine.
Don't believe everything you read in newspapers..

[YFred]

David Haye DOES NOT own any property in north Cyprus...
He rents a villa,from a TC.

He may be "renting" whilst he builds his villa on "cheap property" ... according to the original times article from last May ...

However, he loved the climate, the quiet and that property was very cheap, and he decided to plant his flag.

They then decided to put down roots and build properly. They rebuilt it from scratch, complete with a small kitchen, two bedsits for sparring partners and three marble-floored showers that are quite possibly Haye’s favourite topic of conversation.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=448007

Well if he fancies to build his own place, then it will definitely be on a Turkish title deed property just like his Gym in Ozankoy (Kazaphani) and there is fuck all anyone can do about that!!
Plenty of Turkish title deed properties in Ozankoy..

Firstly, what are "Turkish title deeds"?

Secondly, are you suggesting the Turk-TCs have not been 'selling' GC owned land for building on?

(What is the Orams' case all about then?)

Finally, why are you so "protective" of Hayes? We don't know his precise situation; but the Times did publish what he said and nowhere did it suggest he was merely "renting" (i.e. temporary). Has he been advised of his "error"?

Turkish title deed is what we call over here for properties that belong to TC's pre 1974..

You might not know his precise situation but i do...I have known him since he arrived in Cyprus couple of years ago and he happens to be a friend of mine.
Don't believe everything you read in newspapers..

Iceman, you just wait and see if Kickapoo comes back and how long you can stand his shitty interrogation techniques.
Where is your links to your information? How dare you speak against his gang? If Oracle says milk is black who are you to argue old chap? Now behave yourself and only speak when you are given permission by the queen of the forum.

[AWE]

The lawsuits go out against whoever is currently "enjoying" the property.

In this case if he is renting GC property then he's open to a lawsuit.

So could an expat or TC "own" according to the TRNC law a GC property and rent it out and not be liable as they are not enjoying the property?

[Sotos]

The lawsuits go out against whoever is currently "enjoying" the property.

In this case if he is renting GC property then he's open to a lawsuit.

So could an expat or TC "own" according to the TRNC law a GC property and rent it out and not be liable as they are not enjoying the property?

They can not "own" anything according to "trnc law" but they can be found accomplices in the crime committed by those who trespass

[Malapapa]

The lawsuits go out against whoever is currently "enjoying" the property.

In this case if he is renting GC property then he's open to a lawsuit.

So could an expat or TC "own" according to the TRNC law a GC property and rent it out and not be liable as they are not enjoying the property?

They can not "own" anything according to "trnc law" but they can be found accomplices in the crime committed by those who trespass

Only an unethical sadist would 'enjoy' living in someone else's stolen property.

[AWE]

The lawsuits go out against whoever is currently "enjoying" the property.

In this case if he is renting GC property then he's open to a lawsuit.

So could an expat or TC "own" according to the TRNC law a GC property and rent it out and not be liable as they are not enjoying the property?

They can not "own" anything according to "trnc law" but they can be found accomplices in the crime committed by those who trespass

Only an unethical sadist would 'enjoy' living in someone else's stolen property.

Ok let me re-phrase the questiosn.

If a TC is awarded exchange property and then lets it to another TC/expat/Company who is the liable in RoC law? The tenant or the landlord?

[Oracle]

If somebody rents out property (landlord) he is "enjoying" that property because he is making money out of it.

If somebody is living in that property (tenant), he is also "enjoying" that property!

AWE ... get out fast!

[bill cobbett]

David Haye DOES NOT own any property in north Cyprus...
He rents a villa,from a TC.

Am happy to take Iceman's word on this affair which gets across to me that the man is renting a villa from a tissy on tissy owned land. So don't have a problem with it, as long as the land is pre-74 tissy deed.

As to the boxer promoting Tnucland with a dodgy flag on his underwear, someone bigger and braver than me really ought to have a word.

[AWE]

If somebody rents out property (landlord) he is "enjoying" that property because he is making money out of it.

If somebody is living in that property (tenant), he is also "enjoying" that property!

AWE ... get out fast!

Interesting so both landlord and tenant are liable in the RoC if they are using a property without the owners permission. Except the RoC govt in the form of the Guardian of TC properties and the refugees living in them!

PS as I have said before my family property near Bellapais was bought by my father in 1968 - so no need to get out at all.

[Oracle]

If somebody rents out property (landlord) he is "enjoying" that property because he is making money out of it.

If somebody is living in that property (tenant), he is also "enjoying" that property!

AWE ... get out fast!

Interesting so both landlord and tenant are liable in the RoC if they are using a property without the owners permission. Except the RoC govt in the form of the Guardian of TC properties and the refugees living in them!

PS as I have said before my family property near Bellapais was bought by my father in 1968 - so no need to get out at all.

I never said anyone was liable ... just defined it from a Tax point of view ... since you seemed more concerned with the landlord/tenant associations.

But from an enforced occupation perspective:

Because the ~200,000 GC refugees were forcefully deprived of the enjoyment of their own homes and merely, temporarily semi-'compensated' with a roof over their heads: from a Human Rights' perspective, that looks pretty nasty and would not be deemed as voluntarily enjoying other's assets for their own pleasure/profit....

By contrast, the TCs have always had their homes available to them in the south. There are no foreign troops (43,000 ) specifically stationed to keep them away!