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[Expatkiwi]

Nothing will happen on dec. Türkiye will not recognize the south cypriot greek administration. And Eroglu as the new president of KKTC in may will stop the so-called "negotiations".

About time too! Only the rule of (international) law can solve the Cyprus problem.

GR, you and I both know that International law is cheerfully ignored by a lot of nations - not least the permanent members of the UNSC - when it suits them...

[Get Real!]

Nothing will happen on dec. Türkiye will not recognize the south cypriot greek administration. And Eroglu as the new president of KKTC in may will stop the so-called "negotiations".

About time too! Only the rule of (international) law can solve the Cyprus problem.

GR, you and I both know that International law is cheerfully ignored by a lot of nations - not least the permanent members of the UNSC - when it suits them...

Strangely enough though, it’s international law that has kept Turkey from completing her ambitions on Cyprus.

International law is also enabling refugees pursue compensation, etc, so we can't declare that it’s a total failure.

Imagine what would've happened without it...

[Tim Drayton]

PM EROGLU SAYS BRITISH OFFER TO CEDE BASES LAND HAS NO MEANING FOR TALKS

He must be getting frustrated that no one's listening to him. Eroglu is now talking in capitals

He must have sent halil an urgent 'telegram' to counter his last stupid remark.

But notice he is now talking in bold!

[BOF]

If this is true;

"The Foreign Office said the base areas, which are entirely military, would be able to function as normal within the reduced land area. "

Then why don't they just give it back anyway????

These bargaining chips are falling from the sky, someone is getting very desperate. Roll on Dec then the Turks will be trully buggered.

Nothing will happen on dec. Türkiye will not recognize the south cypriot greek administration. And Eroglu as the new president of KKTC in may will stop the so-called "negotiations".

Why dot you f off you turkish twat. You wait an see the Turks will buckle when the time comes if they really want to get into the EU other wise you can become friends with the rest of the 3rd world.

Turkey seems quite popular at present - Putin has been there recently,
and they had a conference at which a lot of their "third world friends"attended - mainly the ones owning the first worlds oil supplies...

[BOF]

I happen to think the offer of relinquishing Some of the SBA territory is quite useful in bargaining terms as UK being one guarentor prepared to partially withdraw puts pressure on Turkey as another guarentor to do likewise...and leaves it in a bad light if it doesnt.
Maybe thats why so much hot air is being expended by the Turkish side?
So many statements about a little SBA land????

[B25]

I happen to think the offer of relinquishing Some of the SBA territory is quite useful in bargaining terms as UK being one guarentor prepared to partially withdraw puts pressure on Turkey as another guarentor to do likewise...and leaves it in a bad light if it doesnt.
Maybe thats why so much hot air is being expended by the Turkish side?
So many statements about a little SBA land????

The only real reason the UK has offered to withdraw is that it is costing them too much to maintain. They couldn't give a rats arse about the GCs. This is further interference from external forces.

Like I said, if they don't need all that land they should just be good boys and give it back and never mind all this bribary bollocks, seriously!

[Expatkiwi]

I happen to think the offer of relinquishing Some of the SBA territory is quite useful in bargaining terms as UK being one guarentor prepared to partially withdraw puts pressure on Turkey as another guarentor to do likewise...and leaves it in a bad light if it doesnt.
Maybe thats why so much hot air is being expended by the Turkish side?
So many statements about a little SBA land????

The only real reason the UK has offered to withdraw is that it is costing them too much to maintain. They couldn't give a rats arse about the GCs. This is further interference from external forces.

Like I said, if they don't need all that land they should just be good boys and give it back and never mind all this bribary bollocks, seriously!

I think you actually make a good point here, Mitchell.

[Oracle]

I happen to think the offer of relinquishing Some of the SBA territory is quite useful in bargaining terms as UK being one guarentor prepared to partially withdraw puts pressure on Turkey as another guarentor to do likewise...and leaves it in a bad light if it doesnt.
Maybe thats why so much hot air is being expended by the Turkish side?
So many statements about a little SBA land????

The only real reason the UK has offered to withdraw is that it is costing them too much to maintain. They couldn't give a rats arse about the GCs. This is further interference from external forces.

Like I said, if they don't need all that land they should just be good boys and give it back and never mind all this bribary bollocks, seriously!

There never was any justification for holding on to the Bases, RoC land, in the first place. Now, as our "equal" EU partners, the UK are fast looking like the imperialist old guards ... an image Brown would probably like to dispel.

So, the Bases can very swiftly be re-militarised with an expanded CNG, Hellenic Forces, French Forces, German Forces ... all those in fact who are willing to keep Turkey out of Europe and remove her from EU territory, once and for all ... a practicality the UK was impotent to undertake when necessary in 1974.

Cyprus is no longer a bargaining chip ... it's time it called the shots (and Brown, for once, is thinking ahead ).

[insan]

I happen to think the offer of relinquishing Some of the SBA territory is quite useful in bargaining terms as UK being one guarentor prepared to partially withdraw puts pressure on Turkey as another guarentor to do likewise...and leaves it in a bad light if it doesnt.
Maybe thats why so much hot air is being expended by the Turkish side?
So many statements about a little SBA land????

Actually this is not a newly put forth offer. It was put on agenda again on the right time for just to neutralize/reduce the negative effects caused by the memorial monument erected in North... Instead of one, now there r 2 issues r being talked abt Brits and Britain. One of them is (-) and other is (+) = ~0

In this context, i predict a court verdict for Oram's case that will be constructive and satisfasctory to all concerned parties to solve the problem peacefully.

[Oracle]

I happen to think the offer of relinquishing Some of the SBA territory is quite useful in bargaining terms as UK being one guarentor prepared to partially withdraw puts pressure on Turkey as another guarentor to do likewise...and leaves it in a bad light if it doesnt.
Maybe thats why so much hot air is being expended by the Turkish side?
So many statements about a little SBA land????

Actually this is not a newly put forth offer. It was put on agenda again on the right time for just to neutralize/reduce the negative effects caused by the memorial monument erected in North... Instead of one, now there r 2 issues r being talked abt Brits and Britain. One of them is (-) and other is (+) = ~0

In this context, i predict a court verdict for Oram's case that will be constructive and satisfasctory to all concerned parties to solve the problem peacefully.

The "memorial" in the occupied north has NEVER had the approval/backing of the UK government, nor the MOD ... So why should Brown care about some idiot Brits who collaborated with the criminal Turks to carry out a ridiculous charade?

You have given that "memorial" too much credence and all it has done is turn every sane Brit against the Turks and the carpetbaggers, even more!