The Best Cyprus Community

Skip to content


Orams - Live Webcast !!!!

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby YFred » Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:46 pm

B25 wrote:
Acikgoz wrote:
I look at comments like B25s and Get Real and think, hey this is a crock. The GC govt and courts actually act in the same racist manner in which they, B25 and Get Real, talk, there is only disrespect and tradgedy for us going forward if we tear down the walls.


My answer to you is bollocks, Hypocisy comes only from your side. You show no respect when your lots jumps for joy and the cold blooded murders of Issac and Solomou and you want resepect.

Well you know what you can do.

As for TC land, there isn't any, it doesn't exist, it belongs to the GC as Cyprus is GC not Turkish. Entaxi malaka?

I say old chap, so how was the meeting the other day with the new rising son. Has the new dawn risen? I'd be careful if I was you because next it will be Limasol. There is a lot of TC lands in that part too.
User avatar
YFred
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 12100
Joined: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:22 am
Location: Lurucina-Upon-Thames

Postby YFred » Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:52 pm

Acikgoz wrote:Jerry,

There are finally a few TC cases arriving at the European Courts, but the process has been significantly longer given cases must 1st be tried in RoC and all documented commentary has shown that this has been very difficult and time consuming for those that have been through the process - this is where bias allows for fast track of GC cases and sit on top of the train and watch out for low bridges class for TCs.
They will be heard and in due time, but as with GC cases that now have been referred to TRNC property commission it will be interesting to see how they are remedied by EU courts.

London is full of ethnic Turkish Cypriots that have assets in the UK. There is no stretch of imagination to see the fear of TCs in the UK with assets there that by legal definition would fall into the same camp as the Orams.

I understand you have an issue with sales of property to foreigners that was original Greek title - no issue with you on that - BUT what of the land that has been taken of Turkish Cypriots - used, expropriated, not been compensated for etc. by the Greek Cypriot side. A greek, a turk, a brit, a christian, a buddist, a muslim, who care's the race the fact is someone else is using your property.

The fact is that there is no remedy in the South at present. We all know about the Turkish Property under trust in the south, it was legally expedient but practically equivalet to the North given many people are starting to believe they will never get their land back, particularly if the Orams lose the case.

Herein lies the crux of non-equality: GC remedy enforceable; equivalent not enforceable by TC as requires SC court. It is quick, simple, no need to go to EU courts for each case going forward.

In addition, any GC legal ruling can be upheld in the EU.

Regarding the TRNC Property Commission, what I do know is that if unhappy with outcome then EU courts are still open. But again, at least there is viable remedy that can be sought, again nothing so simple for TCs. It then comes back to the point that it is not equal justice for all you just have to work for it, that is a hypocracy.

I look at comments like B25s and Get Real and think, hey this is a crock. The GC govt and courts actually act in the same racist manner in which they, B25 and Get Real, talk, there is only disrespect and tradgedy for us going forward if we tear down the walls.

You will find that Sotos, B25 and a few others which I will not name are relatives of Dicuntis the famous war hero who planned to give the whole of cyprus away to the turks but was incredibly stupid at doing it.
User avatar
YFred
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 12100
Joined: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:22 am
Location: Lurucina-Upon-Thames

Postby bill cobbett » Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:22 pm

Psst .... Psst Fred ..... Psst .... Kor bleemy mate yu def or somthink? Psst ... Psst Fred . Yu want dogee videeos mate? You going looking Halilis shop in Ledras. Him aving bluey videeos jes fur you mate. Telling im Mehmeti sendin you.
User avatar
bill cobbett
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 15759
Joined: Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:20 pm
Location: Embargoed from Kyrenia by Jurkish Army and Genocided (many times) by Thieving, Brain-Washed Lordo

Postby YFred » Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:24 pm

bill cobbett wrote:Psst .... Psst Fred ..... Psst .... Kor bleemy mate yu def or somthink? Psst ... Psst Fred . Yu want dogee videeos mate? You going looking Halilis shop in Ledras. Him aving bluey videeos jes fur you mate. Telling im Mehmeti sendin you.

Bu ise reh pushdo englezzo, doggie videos, what? you think I am greek?
User avatar
YFred
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 12100
Joined: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:22 am
Location: Lurucina-Upon-Thames

Postby bill cobbett » Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:34 pm

YFred wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Psst .... Psst Fred ..... Psst .... Kor bleemy mate yu def or somthink? Psst ... Psst Fred . Yu want dogee videeos mate? You going looking Halilis shop in Ledras. Him aving bluey videeos jes fur you mate. Telling im Mehmeti sendin you.

Bu ise reh pushdo englezzo, doggie videos, what? you think I am greek?


You so funy man Fred. You not greekman mate. You thinking seely Mehmeti is seely man mate. You is tc jes lik me. Reh Billc you heering Frred mate? Im say he is greek, is so funy.
User avatar
bill cobbett
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 15759
Joined: Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:20 pm
Location: Embargoed from Kyrenia by Jurkish Army and Genocided (many times) by Thieving, Brain-Washed Lordo

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:40 pm

B25 wrote:
Acikgoz wrote:
I look at comments like B25s and Get Real and think, hey this is a crock. The GC govt and courts actually act in the same racist manner in which they, B25 and Get Real, talk, there is only disrespect and tradgedy for us going forward if we tear down the walls.


My answer to you is bollocks, Hypocisy comes only from your side. You show no respect when your lots jumps for joy and the cold blooded murders of Issac and Solomou and you want resepect.

Well you know what you can do.

As for TC land, there isn't any, it doesn't exist, it belongs to the GC as Cyprus is GC not Turkish. Entaxi malaka?


Prime example of why TCs should never unite...thank you for being so honest.
User avatar
Viewpoint
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 25214
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:48 pm
Location: Nicosia/Lefkosa

Postby EricSeans » Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:40 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
-mikkie2- wrote:Well done to Bill and Jerry for giving us a first hand account of proceedings.

It sounds like the Court has little option but to rule in favour of Apostolides. Probably wont get a judgement this side of Christmas but the sound of it.


Wouldn't have missed it for the world brother/sister.

Fear you're right on the time it takes for these things.

As to the result? Well, at the lunchtime recess, when our Jerry and Mr Candounas exchanged smiles (and I swear on my virtual life this did happen) thought it's 100%, a dead cert. At the end on the way back to the station Jerry said 75/25 and I agreed with him on that, so you never know.


Hear hear. Nice work Jerry and Bill Cobbett for covering this for the rest of us and making sense out of the proceedings as non-journalists, and this is coming from someone who does court reporting for a living.

The Press benches are sore on the @rse after a few hours, eh? :)

Here's to a good result.
User avatar
EricSeans
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 650
Joined: Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:12 pm
Location: Scotland

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:12 am

EricSeans wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
-mikkie2- wrote:Well done to Bill and Jerry for giving us a first hand account of proceedings.

It sounds like the Court has little option but to rule in favour of Apostolides. Probably wont get a judgement this side of Christmas but the sound of it.


Wouldn't have missed it for the world brother/sister.

Fear you're right on the time it takes for these things.

As to the result? Well, at the lunchtime recess, when our Jerry and Mr Candounas exchanged smiles (and I swear on my virtual life this did happen) thought it's 100%, a dead cert. At the end on the way back to the station Jerry said 75/25 and I agreed with him on that, so you never know.


Hear hear. Nice work Jerry and Bill Cobbett for covering this for the rest of us and making sense out of the proceedings as non-journalists, and this is coming from someone who does court reporting for a living.

The Press benches are sore on the @rse after a few hours, eh? :)

Here's to a good result.


Gosh, thanks Eric. Had no idea you were a court reporter. Thinking of learning a little shorthand. What system would you recommend. :lol:

Yes def had a sore bum.
User avatar
bill cobbett
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 15759
Joined: Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:20 pm
Location: Embargoed from Kyrenia by Jurkish Army and Genocided (many times) by Thieving, Brain-Washed Lordo

Postby YFred » Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:15 am

bill cobbett wrote:
EricSeans wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
-mikkie2- wrote:Well done to Bill and Jerry for giving us a first hand account of proceedings.

It sounds like the Court has little option but to rule in favour of Apostolides. Probably wont get a judgement this side of Christmas but the sound of it.


Wouldn't have missed it for the world brother/sister.

Fear you're right on the time it takes for these things.

As to the result? Well, at the lunchtime recess, when our Jerry and Mr Candounas exchanged smiles (and I swear on my virtual life this did happen) thought it's 100%, a dead cert. At the end on the way back to the station Jerry said 75/25 and I agreed with him on that, so you never know.


Hear hear. Nice work Jerry and Bill Cobbett for covering this for the rest of us and making sense out of the proceedings as non-journalists, and this is coming from someone who does court reporting for a living.

The Press benches are sore on the @rse after a few hours, eh? :)

Here's to a good result.


Gosh, thanks Eric. Had no idea you were a court reporter. Thinking of learning a little shorthand. What system would you recommend. :lol:

There is a new shorthand system called Hellenic Arsebackwards. You'll be natural and take to it like duck to water. :lol: :lol: :lol:
User avatar
YFred
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 12100
Joined: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:22 am
Location: Lurucina-Upon-Thames

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:47 am

YFred wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
EricSeans wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
-mikkie2- wrote:Well done to Bill and Jerry for giving us a first hand account of proceedings.

It sounds like the Court has little option but to rule in favour of Apostolides. Probably wont get a judgement this side of Christmas but the sound of it.


Wouldn't have missed it for the world brother/sister.

Fear you're right on the time it takes for these things.

As to the result? Well, at the lunchtime recess, when our Jerry and Mr Candounas exchanged smiles (and I swear on my virtual life this did happen) thought it's 100%, a dead cert. At the end on the way back to the station Jerry said 75/25 and I agreed with him on that, so you never know.


Hear hear. Nice work Jerry and Bill Cobbett for covering this for the rest of us and making sense out of the proceedings as non-journalists, and this is coming from someone who does court reporting for a living.

The Press benches are sore on the @rse after a few hours, eh? :)

Here's to a good result.


Gosh, thanks Eric. Had no idea you were a court reporter. Thinking of learning a little shorthand. What system would you recommend. :lol:

There is a new shorthand system called Hellenic Arsebackwards. You'll be natural and take to it like duck to water. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Hateh reh Freddie, don't be like that.

Thought it was a tremondously valuable experiment for CF in which a lot of people above were able to put in their angle, their filter on things. OK there's bound to be a bit of bias, but isn't that always present in news. Here at least members have tried to see through any minimal bias

Compare this with what will happen tomorrow at the ECHR. Tried very hard but can't see us hearing what's going on 'til we switch on RIK for a two
minute report or wait a day or two for brief on-line reports.

Where's the immediacy in debate there?
User avatar
bill cobbett
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 15759
Joined: Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:20 pm
Location: Embargoed from Kyrenia by Jurkish Army and Genocided (many times) by Thieving, Brain-Washed Lordo

PreviousNext

Return to Cyprus Problem

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests