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Postby Acikgoz » Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:47 pm

Sorry Jerry, but the European Courts are where the Greek Cypriots have gone and are now refered to the TRNC Property Commission.

Also Greek Cypriots are getting compensation for proeprty in North via the Property Commission set up there! Note, to date it has been the most successful method to date.

Fact remains, this course of legal method is not open to Turkish Cypriots.

The Orams case is about enforcing the Greek Cypriot law externally.

"Turkish guns enforce the “laws” of the north; in the ROC the EU is the final arbiter." Please that denigrates your response.

Stick to the point, is this avenue open to Turkish Cypriots in the real world? NO!
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:56 pm

Acikgoz wrote:Stick to the point, is this avenue open to Turkish Cypriots in the real world? NO!

That's because Turkish Cypriots DO NOT NEED such an avenue because their properties are already secure!
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Postby insan » Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:01 pm

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Acikgoz wrote:Stick to the point, is this avenue open to Turkish Cypriots in the real world? NO!

That's because Turkish Cypriots DO NOT NEED such an avenue because their properties are already secure!


In abt 6 GC villages and 3 towns considerable amount of TC properties that were invested by GC refugees(abt 13.500 GCs) given title deeds of so-called RoC.

There r several revealed cases that TC properties even illegally were sold to foreigners.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:09 pm

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Get Real! wrote:
Acikgoz wrote:Stick to the point, is this avenue open to Turkish Cypriots in the real world? NO!

That's because Turkish Cypriots DO NOT NEED such an avenue because their properties are already secure!


In abt 6 GC villages and 3 towns considerable amount of TC properties that were invested by GC refugees(abt 13.500 GCs) given title deeds of so-called RoC.

There r several revealed cases that TC properties even illegally were sold to foreigners.

Insan, without CREDIBLE EVIDENCE I never accept anything as fact so throwing figures around doesn't do it for me. I need to read it from a CREDIBLE SOURCE to accept as evidence.

However, the word "several" you've used, is very funny when compared to ALL of the Greek Cypriot properties being used and abused by Turkish Cypriots!

You have no legs to stand on and to be honest, I'm ashamed of you!
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Postby Acikgoz » Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:10 pm

Funny coming from a handle such as "get real"

Why has the dude with the Larnaca airport land or Energy Centre or Varosha being told compensation or restitution after C problem is solved?

If the GC courts believe it is legal to force compensation/restitution now i.e. Orams before a comprehensive settlement.... then how does politics trump law in your country and yet you cannot agree to call it what it is.

I call it blurring the truth, manipulating the law for your own gains and amazingly with the lack of moral fortitude to to even question your actions.

Don't try to pretend it is something it is not. If the hypocrites were not so evil I would say they are pathetic.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:15 pm

Acikgoz wrote:Funny coming from a handle such as "get real"

Why has the dude with the Larnaca airport land or Energy Centre or Varosha being told compensation or restitution after C problem is solved?

If the GC courts believe it is legal to force compensation/restitution now i.e. Orams before a comprehensive settlement.... then how does politics trump law in your country and yet you cannot agree to call it what it is.

I call it blurring the truth, manipulating the law for your own gains and amazingly with the lack of moral fortitude to to even question your actions.

Don't try to pretend it is something it is not. If the hypocrites were not so evil I would say they are pathetic.

You’ll have to supply credible evidence of everything you write about this “dude” in Larnaca to build your case… forget the C44 “forum” where even you earn respect! :lol:

Do your REASEARCH and THEN come back with your arguments. :wink:
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Postby Jerry » Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:16 pm

Acikgoz wrote:Sorry Jerry, but the European Courts are where the Greek Cypriots have gone and are now refered to the TRNC Property Commission.

Also Greek Cypriots are getting compensation for proeprty in North via the Property Commission set up there! Note, to date it has been the most successful method to date.

Fact remains, this course of legal method is not open to Turkish Cypriots.

The Orams case is about enforcing the Greek Cypriot law externally.

"Turkish guns enforce the “laws” of the north; in the ROC the EU is the final arbiter." Please that denigrates your response.

Stick to the point, is this avenue open to Turkish Cypriots in the real world? NO!


You are wrong about the Property Commission. I made initial enquiries to the commission and was not at all impressed with the response. I complained to the ECHR about the incompetence of the commission who readily sent me the documents I needed to make the claim. The commission is not capable of processing large numbers of claims, it takes two months for them to pay even if agreement is reached.

Why would a Turkish Cypriot need recourse to law if he has already been given GC by Turkey in the north? Is he double dipping?

You denigrate your own response by making up facts. It has yet to be confirmed that the commission is a legal method.
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Postby insan » Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:18 pm

Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Acikgoz wrote:Stick to the point, is this avenue open to Turkish Cypriots in the real world? NO!

That's because Turkish Cypriots DO NOT NEED such an avenue because their properties are already secure!


In abt 6 GC villages and 3 towns considerable amount of TC properties that were invested by GC refugees(abt 13.500 GCs) given title deeds of so-called RoC.

There r several revealed cases that TC properties even illegally were sold to foreigners.

Insan, without CREDIBLE EVIDENCE I never accept anything as fact so throwing figures around doesn't do it for me. I need to read it from a CREDIBLE SOURCE to accept as evidence.

However, the word "several" you've used, is very funny when compared to ALL of the Greek Cypriot properties being used and abused by Turkish Cypriots!

You have no legs to stand on and to be honest, I'm ashamed of you!


Cyprus in brief October 10
(archive article - Friday, October 9, 2009)
‘All refugees will get title deeds’

THE GOVERNMENT’S aim is to provide all refugees with title deeds and all efforts are being made in that direction, Interior Minister Neoklis Silikiotis said yesterday.

In mid 2010, procedures will start to offer 2,500 plots to refugees living in Turkish Cypriot properties,” Silikiotis explained. “The aim is to provide refugees living in houses or estates built on Turkish Cypriot land with 8,500 title deeds.”

The minister didn’t exclude the possibility of expropriating the land by securing the consent of the Turkish Cypriot owners.



http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... &archive=1

It's u that living in South Cyprus and speak Greek, u should have informed abt this issue.

I didn't claim that TCs didn't use/abuse the GC properties but u claimed that all TC property has been secured by the so-called government of RoC.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:20 pm

insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Acikgoz wrote:Stick to the point, is this avenue open to Turkish Cypriots in the real world? NO!

That's because Turkish Cypriots DO NOT NEED such an avenue because their properties are already secure!


In abt 6 GC villages and 3 towns considerable amount of TC properties that were invested by GC refugees(abt 13.500 GCs) given title deeds of so-called RoC.

There r several revealed cases that TC properties even illegally were sold to foreigners.

Insan, without CREDIBLE EVIDENCE I never accept anything as fact so throwing figures around doesn't do it for me. I need to read it from a CREDIBLE SOURCE to accept as evidence.

However, the word "several" you've used, is very funny when compared to ALL of the Greek Cypriot properties being used and abused by Turkish Cypriots!

You have no legs to stand on and to be honest, I'm ashamed of you!


Cyprus in brief October 10
(archive article - Friday, October 9, 2009)
‘All refugees will get title deeds’

THE GOVERNMENT’S aim is to provide all refugees with title deeds and all efforts are being made in that direction, Interior Minister Neoklis Silikiotis said yesterday.

In mid 2010, procedures will start to offer 2,500 plots to refugees living in Turkish Cypriot properties,” Silikiotis explained. “The aim is to provide refugees living in houses or estates built on Turkish Cypriot land with 8,500 title deeds.”

The minister didn’t exclude the possibility of expropriating the land by securing the consent of the Turkish Cypriot owners.



http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... &archive=1

It's u that living in South Cyprus and speak Greek, u should have informed abt this issue.

I didn't claim that TCs didn't use/abuse the GC properties but u claimed that all TC property has been secured by the so-called government of RoC.

Two points you've missed...

1. This hasn't happened yet. :roll:

2. "The minister didn’t exclude the possibility of expropriating the land by securing the consent of the Turkish Cypriot owners."

You still have no legs to stand on Insan!
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Postby insan » Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:26 pm

Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Acikgoz wrote:Stick to the point, is this avenue open to Turkish Cypriots in the real world? NO!

That's because Turkish Cypriots DO NOT NEED such an avenue because their properties are already secure!


In abt 6 GC villages and 3 towns considerable amount of TC properties that were invested by GC refugees(abt 13.500 GCs) given title deeds of so-called RoC.

There r several revealed cases that TC properties even illegally were sold to foreigners.

Insan, without CREDIBLE EVIDENCE I never accept anything as fact so throwing figures around doesn't do it for me. I need to read it from a CREDIBLE SOURCE to accept as evidence.

However, the word "several" you've used, is very funny when compared to ALL of the Greek Cypriot properties being used and abused by Turkish Cypriots!

You have no legs to stand on and to be honest, I'm ashamed of you!


Cyprus in brief October 10
(archive article - Friday, October 9, 2009)
‘All refugees will get title deeds’

THE GOVERNMENT’S aim is to provide all refugees with title deeds and all efforts are being made in that direction, Interior Minister Neoklis Silikiotis said yesterday.

In mid 2010, procedures will start to offer 2,500 plots to refugees living in Turkish Cypriot properties,” Silikiotis explained. “The aim is to provide refugees living in houses or estates built on Turkish Cypriot land with 8,500 title deeds.”

The minister didn’t exclude the possibility of expropriating the land by securing the consent of the Turkish Cypriot owners.



http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... &archive=1

It's u that living in South Cyprus and speak Greek, u should have informed abt this issue.

I didn't claim that TCs didn't use/abuse the GC properties but u claimed that all TC property has been secured by the so-called government of RoC.

Two points you've missed...

1. This hasn't happened yet. :roll:

2. "The minister didn’t exclude the possibility of expropriating the land by securing the consent of the Turkish Cypriot owners."

You still have no legs to stand on Insan!


The action of building on TC land happened! That's the most significant point!

Regarding the solution of properties issue; I neither approbate the policies of GC leadership nor the TC leadership. They r all illiterate, incompetent self-seekers; like U and some others!
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