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[B25]

This case is not about what Mr A will get, never has been and never will be. This case is about stopping the theiving crooks from selling GC properties to lowlife carpet baggers and their ilks.

This will be the final nail the the coffin for the crooks and the construction industry. We ought to be thankful to Mr A for pursuing this case, infact we should all be contributing to any costs he has incurred.

he is a national hero. Bravo Mr apostolides and I hope many will follow in your footsteps to oust the theives.

Good luck and may god be with you.

[GeorgeV97qaue]

when do the bulldozers move across the green line?

Don't know about bulldozers but Mr Apostolides will be the proud owner of an English country home soon.

So, couple of donums of land for an English country house, that's fair isn't it. If the judge goes for it, he should be strung up, quartered and then hanged till dead.

don't be upset, thats how the law works.

Turks dnt follow rule of law. They only follow one rule. What we want we take.

[Gregory]

when do the bulldozers move across the green line?

Don't know about bulldozers but Mr Apostolides will be the proud owner of an English country home soon.

So, couple of donums of land for an English country house, that's fair isn't it. If the judge goes for it, he should be strung up, quartered and then hanged till dead.

don't be upset, thats how the law works.

Turks dnt follow rule of law. They only follow one rule. What we want we take.

Would you be angry at a tribe in the Amazon if they didn't know how to flush a modern toilet? You need to be patient with these people.

[RAFAELLA]

Turkish Cypriots critical of Brown over Orams case

LONDON based human rights group Embargoed! and other British Turkish Cypriot groups criticised Prime Minister Gordon Brown for meeeting Greek Cypriot President Christofias yesterday (11 November) with the Orams property case hearing due at the Court of Appeal this week.

The case, which involves British couple David and Linda Orams being sued by a Greek Cypriot over their TRNC property, has huge significance for both Cyprus and tens of thousands of British citizens.

The groups wrote to the Prime Minister asking for the meeting with Mr Christofias to be cancelled, urging the British Government to act with more sensitivity on the issue.

Embargoed! chair Fevzi Hussein said, “To say we are disappointed with Gordon Brown is an understatement. Just what does the British PM think he is playing at by meeting Mr Christofias on the first day of the Orams hearing? It smacks of political interference by the Greek Cypriot side and sends out all the wrong messages.

“Time and again we see the hypocrisy of the Greek Cypriot side. They are happy to develop on Turkish Cypriot property in the South, such as the land on which Larnaca and Paphos airports are built on, yet they bully anyone seeking to invest in North Cyprus. The case against the Orams is yet another example”.

Greek Cypriot plaintiff Meletis Apostolides is suing the British couple for acquiring and developing land in North Cyprus he formerly owned.Mr Apostolides wants the Orams’ house demolished and compensation paid and as he cannot enforce the decision in the Turkish Republic of North Cyprus (TRNC), Mr. Apostolides wants it enforced in the UK where the Orams have another property.

In April this year, a panel of the European Court of Justice (ECJ) headed by a Greek judge ruled in favour of the plaintiff. The ECJ judgment must now be applied throughout the European Union, including the UK. However, EU States can opt out of the ruling on reasons of ‘public policy’.

Cetin Ramadan, the UK head of the Association of Turkish Cypriots Abroad (ATCA) said, “If Mr Brown and the other EU leaders want to help Cyprus, then they need to avoid actions that suggest they support one camp over the other. Both sides have suffered, both have rights and needs, and it’s about time Europe recognised that.”

http://www.londragazete.com/haber_detay ... berID=5378

...I guess some minds are really Embargoed!

[B25]

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"Embargoed! chair Fevzi Hussein said, “To say we are disappointed with Gordon Brown is an understatement. Just what does the British PM think he is playing at by meeting Mr Christofias on the first day of the Orams hearing? It smacks of political interference by the Greek Cypriot side and sends out all the wrong messages.

“Time and again we see the hypocrisy of the Greek Cypriot side. They are happy to develop on Turkish Cypriot property in the South, such as the land on which Larnaca and Paphos airports are built on"

Err1, wasn't it the British PM wife that represented the orams initially??? This is political interference. My god the audacity of these people. Why should the British PM put off his engagements for a bunch of criminals of a pseudo state, I mean come on.

Then he claims TC developed in the South, utter b*ll*cks. the airports were not on TC land (bar 3000m2) in one small section of Larnaca Airport. These people will spread any lies and propoganda to suit their theiving behaviour.

The TCs have embargoed themselves into a corner, a minority amongst a minority and soon to disappear and they think Turkey has done them a favour In the words on the famous Insan and Yjocks, imbecilles old boy.


Go Mr Apostolide, may the force be with you.

[CopperLine]

Can I just say two things to the Harems and others in their predicament ... the best of luck to them..... they're going to need a shedfull of it and ...

It may not be too late to go and see Mr A and admit that they've been found out and to make over to Mr A an acknowledgement the land is his and to agree to start paying some rent.

This would be the dignified and decent thing to do. Of course it will not happen.

[YFred]

Can I just say two things to the Harems and others in their predicament ... the best of luck to them..... they're going to need a shedfull of it and ...

It may not be too late to go and see Mr A and admit that they've been found out and to make over to Mr A an acknowledgement the land is his and to agree to start paying some rent.

This would be the dignified and decent thing to do. Of course it will not happen.

Only if RoC pays TCs the rent they have not collected. And what's the chance of that.

[CopperLine]

Can I just say two things to the Harems and others in their predicament ... the best of luck to them..... they're going to need a shedfull of it and ...

It may not be too late to go and see Mr A and admit that they've been found out and to make over to Mr A an acknowledgement the land is his and to agree to start paying some rent.

This would be the dignified and decent thing to do. Of course it will not happen.

Only if RoC pays TCs the rent they have not collected. And what's the chance of that.

In the scale of things the paying of rent would not break the bank and, if it meant a big step towards some kind of reconciliation or settlement, it would be a small price to pay. RoC should try it.

[YFred]

Can I just say two things to the Harems and others in their predicament ... the best of luck to them..... they're going to need a shedfull of it and ...

It may not be too late to go and see Mr A and admit that they've been found out and to make over to Mr A an acknowledgement the land is his and to agree to start paying some rent.

This would be the dignified and decent thing to do. Of course it will not happen.

Only if RoC pays TCs the rent they have not collected. And what's the chance of that.

In the scale of things the paying of rent would not break the bank and, if it meant a big step towards some kind of reconciliation or settlement, it would be a small price to pay. RoC should try it.

Instead they collect the tax from the TCs and hang on to the rent and the land too. RoC should try it indeed. Pigs will also fly.
Stick around Copperline, we need you around. Can you explain who the other unmentioned party was in the Orams case. Was it roc by any chance?

[Gregory]

Can I just say two things to the Harems and others in their predicament ... the best of luck to them..... they're going to need a shedfull of it and ...

It may not be too late to go and see Mr A and admit that they've been found out and to make over to Mr A an acknowledgement the land is his and to agree to start paying some rent.

This would be the dignified and decent thing to do. Of course it will not happen.

Only if RoC pays TCs the rent they have not collected. And what's the chance of that.

In the scale of things the paying of rent would not break the bank and, if it meant a big step towards some kind of reconciliation or settlement, it would be a small price to pay. RoC should try it.

Instead they collect the tax from the TCs and hang on to the rent and the land too. RoC should try it indeed. Pigs will also fly.
Stick around Copperline, we need you around. Can you explain who the other unmentioned party was in the Orams case. Was it roc by any chance?

YOu want the balance of payment between the ROC and TC's?

I am a GC and am not entitled to free healthcare. My uncle went the other day to the General Hospital after his operation and was given his bill. When he complained about how high it was he was told that if he were a TC it would have been free.

A little odd that the only group of people entitled to free healthcare in Cyprus are the only people that do not pay any taxes in Cyprus, sell GC property and serve a millitary stationed here to stop GC's from reclaiming their homes.