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[Tim Drayton]

http://news.pseka.net/index.php?module=article&id=3988

"Turkish Cypriot properties Management Service"? It seems they had just established it but it never worked.

This story is from 6 years ago. Why don't you follow it up and post the latest?

The point is not when it was revealed but sale of TC properties to GCs and even foreigners.

What's that point again?

The law specifies that Turkish Cypriot land can only be used for public projects. But Mustafa's land was subsequently sold as building plots going for between £9,000 and £13,000 a piece " though one sold for as high as £34,000 " not only to locals but also foreigners.

"Where was the public interest? Would any Greek Cypriot have accepted this; to appropriate their land for nothing?" a friend of the Turkish Cypriots told the Sunday Mail.

I have read this article and agree with the sentiment expressed in the headline:

This land is theirs - so give it back.

[insan]

http://news.pseka.net/index.php?module=article&id=3988

"Turkish Cypriot properties Management Service"? It seems they had just established it but it never worked.

This story is from 6 years ago. Why don't you follow it up and post the latest?

The point is not when it was revealed but sale of TC properties to GCs and even foreigners.

What's that point again?

The law specifies that Turkish Cypriot land can only be used for public projects. But Mustafa's land was subsequently sold as building plots going for between £9,000 and £13,000 a piece " though one sold for as high as £34,000 " not only to locals but also foreigners.

"Where was the public interest? Would any Greek Cypriot have accepted this; to appropriate their land for nothing?" a friend of the Turkish Cypriots told the Sunday Mail.

I have read this article and agree with the sentiment expressed in the headline:

This land is theirs - so give it back.

That's good, I agree with it too... but GCs should stop telling us the fairy tales that TC properties weren't sold to foreigners...

[Tim Drayton]

http://news.pseka.net/index.php?module=article&id=3988

"Turkish Cypriot properties Management Service"? It seems they had just established it but it never worked.

This story is from 6 years ago. Why don't you follow it up and post the latest?

The point is not when it was revealed but sale of TC properties to GCs and even foreigners.

What's that point again?

The law specifies that Turkish Cypriot land can only be used for public projects. But Mustafa's land was subsequently sold as building plots going for between £9,000 and £13,000 a piece " though one sold for as high as £34,000 " not only to locals but also foreigners.

"Where was the public interest? Would any Greek Cypriot have accepted this; to appropriate their land for nothing?" a friend of the Turkish Cypriots told the Sunday Mail.

I have read this article and agree with the sentiment expressed in the headline:

This land is theirs - so give it back.

That's good, I agree with it too... but GCs should stop telling us the fairy tales that TC properties weren't sold to foreigners...

... but I see nobody here defending the sale of TC property to foreigners without their owners' permission, just denying that it has happened.

[insan]

http://news.pseka.net/index.php?module=article&id=3988

"Turkish Cypriot properties Management Service"? It seems they had just established it but it never worked.

This story is from 6 years ago. Why don't you follow it up and post the latest?

The point is not when it was revealed but sale of TC properties to GCs and even foreigners.

What's that point again?

The law specifies that Turkish Cypriot land can only be used for public projects. But Mustafa's land was subsequently sold as building plots going for between £9,000 and £13,000 a piece " though one sold for as high as £34,000 " not only to locals but also foreigners.

"Where was the public interest? Would any Greek Cypriot have accepted this; to appropriate their land for nothing?" a friend of the Turkish Cypriots told the Sunday Mail.

I have read this article and agree with the sentiment expressed in the headline:

This land is theirs - so give it back.

That's good, I agree with it too... but GCs should stop telling us the fairy tales that TC properties weren't sold to foreigners...

... but I see nobody here defending the sale of TC property to foreigners without their owners' permission, just denying that it has happened.

Did I say anybody here defend the sale of TC properties to foreigners? No. I too meant they deny it has happened.

[Bananiot]

The Cyprus Energy Centre, near the Vasiliko Power Station is such a case Tim. GC lawyers who represent TC's in RoC courts reckon there are many such case.

[Piratis]

The Cyprus Energy Centre, near the Vasiliko Power Station is such a case Tim. GC lawyers who represent TC's in RoC courts reckon there are many such case.

Bananiot, a while ago I told you to check your maths. Did you?

I will tell you again: TC stole 3 times as much than what the left behind. Republic of Cyprus does use some TC properties for airports, roads and infrastructure in general, but that is a tiny fraction of what the TCs did to our properties in the occupied areas.

So I will tell you again: We have no problem to compensate to the last cent those TCs whose properties were used by the state for infrastructure (something which the state had every right to do), as long as we get all our properties back which worth 100s of times more.

To put it simply: We will pay something but we will get a lot more. Do you have a problem with this???

[YFred]

http://news.pseka.net/index.php?module=article&id=3988

"Turkish Cypriot properties Management Service"? It seems they had just established it but it never worked.

This story is from 6 years ago. Why don't you follow it up and post the latest?

The point is not when it was revealed but sale of TC properties to GCs and even foreigners.

What's that point again?

The law specifies that Turkish Cypriot land can only be used for public projects. But Mustafa's land was subsequently sold as building plots going for between £9,000 and £13,000 a piece " though one sold for as high as £34,000 " not only to locals but also foreigners.

"Where was the public interest? Would any Greek Cypriot have accepted this; to appropriate their land for nothing?" a friend of the Turkish Cypriots told the Sunday Mail.

I have read this article and agree with the sentiment expressed in the headline:

This land is theirs - so give it back.

That's good, I agree with it too... but GCs should stop telling us the fairy tales that TC properties weren't sold to foreigners...

... but I see nobody here defending the sale of TC property to foreigners without their owners' permission, just denying that it has happened.

So for not knowing what is going on in their country does that make them Just Thick, More Thicker or Most Thickest .
I think not. They know what is going on and just think that if they say it is not often enough, then the thick ones will believe it.

[Bananiot]

Piratis, all I said is that the property issue, unlike what we think, touches both communities. You should really give up with the stupid % issue you bring up in all your posts. Here we are talking about the tackling of the properties issue within the framework of an agreement for the solution of the Cyprus issue. When you negotiate for an agreed solution you do not foolishly accuse the other side of stealing your land. Especially if you are the minnow in the equation. And more especially if you are really interested in a solution (compromise solution) that will end the occupation of the country and stem the influx of settlers.

As Markides pointed out, we cannot be dogmatic on this because if we keep repeating what Piratis comes up with every ten minutes, we can whistle good bye to solution. Of course, Piratis is not really interested in solution and, as he has stated on numerous occasions, he would rather we stay as we are and wait until the balance of power tilts to our side and then of course we can enforce the solution we want.

Even political infants can see that this is a sure prescription to disaster but Piratis and his likes would rather see Cyprus destroyed for good than share this island with our Turkish Cypriot compatriots.

[YFred]

The Cyprus Energy Centre, near the Vasiliko Power Station is such a case Tim. GC lawyers who represent TC's in RoC courts reckon there are many such case.

Bananiot, a while ago I told you to check your maths. Did you?

I will tell you again: TC stole 3 times as much than what the left behind. Republic of Cyprus does use some TC properties for airports, roads and infrastructure in general, but that is a tiny fraction of what the TCs did to our properties in the occupied areas.

So I will tell you again: We have no problem to compensate to the last cent those TCs whose properties were used by the state for infrastructure (something which the state had every right to do), as long as we get all our properties back which worth 100s of times more.

To put it simply: We will pay something but we will get a lot more. Do you have a problem with this???

If it's 3 times as much and the land values are 10 times as much, surely you need to give us land back Piratis. Do you maths, I thought the greeks were good at maths.

[Tony-4497]

Piratis, all I said is that the property issue, unlike what we think, touches both communities. You should really give up with the stupid % issue you bring up in all your posts. Here we are talking about the tackling of the properties issue within the framework of an agreement for the solution of the Cyprus issue. When you negotiate for an agreed solution you do not foolishly accuse the other side of stealing your land. Especially if you are the minnow in the equation. And more especially if you are really interested in a solution (compromise solution) that will end the occupation of the country and stem the influx of settlers.

As Markides pointed out, we cannot be dogmatic on this because if we keep repeating what Piratis comes up with every ten minutes, we can whistle good bye to solution. Of course, Piratis is not really interested in solution and, as he has stated on numerous occasions, he would rather we stay as we are and wait until the balance of power tilts to our side and then of course we can enforce the solution we want.

Even political infants can see that this is a sure prescription to disaster but Piratis and his likes would rather see Cyprus destroyed for good than share this island with our Turkish Cypriot compatriots.

Bananiot

You really don't get, do you?

NO solution that does not grant property owners the "first option" on their property (i.e. their choice of renstitution, exchange and compensation) can pass a GC referendum.

Even Christofias has this as his stated position - this was also in his CONTRACT with those who voted for him, including DIKO & EDEK who gave him the presidency (note he came second in the first round).

Markides, instead of trying to support a plan that can pass a referendum in both sides (and hence contributing towards a solution in a realistic way), is obsessed with proving he was right when he fought hard for the Annan plan to pass and that 76% of GCs were wrong.

Re substance: Any country in the world can take citizen's land for PUBLIC PROJECTS (such as roads, airports etc) and pay fair compensation. If proper compensation was not paid to any TCs by the RoC, they are able to sue at European courts to get this.

No country in the world can take land for purposes such as private developments i.e. houses etc.. if such cases exist, then TC WILL be able to take back their land as per Orams case.

Same should be applied in the north for GC property.

FULLSTOP