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[YFred]

Would one of you please clarify whether the Turkish Cypriots were actually ethnically cleansed from the southern areas, did they move north of their own accord or was it a demand by the Turkish army that they be relocated to the north as part of the ceasefire agreement. A Cypriot lady who I know told me that UN trucks collected Turkish Cypriots from a Turkish village close to Peyia and took them north. She told me how a young Turkish Cypriot boy hid from the UN soldiers and was later raised by a Greek Cypriot family; he was later to become one of the wealthiest businessmen in Paphos. She also told me that the Turkish Cypriots didn't want to leave the village but were forced on to the trucks by the UN soldiers.

The TC refugees who lived in Lurucina, did not need any help from anybody to move to the north, when they were told they could they did with no hesitation.
I hope that answers your question.

What about the famous Ibrahim Aziz, the TC living in the south who successfully brought a case against the RoC at the European Court of Human Rights claiming that Turkish Cypriots were denied the right to vote. I think he was originally from Potamya or Dali. Was he not among those evacuated to Louroujina in 1964? If so, some people did not want to head north.

I think you'll find most moved north first and then few years later in the 80s, times got very hard and some plucked up the courage and moved to south, long before the crossing were opened. I think there were handfull of people but not really sure how many. Certainly I was aware of some Bodamya residence who moved back in he 80s.
There is on man from Dali who did that in the sixties that we discussed before.

[Tim Drayton]

Would one of you please clarify whether the Turkish Cypriots were actually ethnically cleansed from the southern areas, did they move north of their own accord or was it a demand by the Turkish army that they be relocated to the north as part of the ceasefire agreement. A Cypriot lady who I know told me that UN trucks collected Turkish Cypriots from a Turkish village close to Peyia and took them north. She told me how a young Turkish Cypriot boy hid from the UN soldiers and was later raised by a Greek Cypriot family; he was later to become one of the wealthiest businessmen in Paphos. She also told me that the Turkish Cypriots didn't want to leave the village but were forced on to the trucks by the UN soldiers.

The TC refugees who lived in Lurucina, did not need any help from anybody to move to the north, when they were told they could they did with no hesitation.
I hope that answers your question.

What about the famous Ibrahim Aziz, the TC living in the south who successfully brought a case against the RoC at the European Court of Human Rights claiming that Turkish Cypriots were denied the right to vote. I think he was originally from Potamya or Dali. Was he not among those evacuated to Louroujina in 1964? If so, some people did not want to head north.

I think you'll find most moved north first and then few years later in the 80s, times got very hard and some plucked up the courage and moved to south, long before the crossing were opened. I think there were handfull of people but not really sure how many. Certainly I was aware of some Bodamya residence who moved back in he 80s.
There is on man from Dali who did that in the sixties that we discussed before.

So these people presumably had to travel via the UK or some other third country?

[YFred]

Would one of you please clarify whether the Turkish Cypriots were actually ethnically cleansed from the southern areas, did they move north of their own accord or was it a demand by the Turkish army that they be relocated to the north as part of the ceasefire agreement. A Cypriot lady who I know told me that UN trucks collected Turkish Cypriots from a Turkish village close to Peyia and took them north. She told me how a young Turkish Cypriot boy hid from the UN soldiers and was later raised by a Greek Cypriot family; he was later to become one of the wealthiest businessmen in Paphos. She also told me that the Turkish Cypriots didn't want to leave the village but were forced on to the trucks by the UN soldiers.

The TC refugees who lived in Lurucina, did not need any help from anybody to move to the north, when they were told they could they did with no hesitation.
I hope that answers your question.

What about the famous Ibrahim Aziz, the TC living in the south who successfully brought a case against the RoC at the European Court of Human Rights claiming that Turkish Cypriots were denied the right to vote. I think he was originally from Potamya or Dali. Was he not among those evacuated to Louroujina in 1964? If so, some people did not want to head north.

I think you'll find most moved north first and then few years later in the 80s, times got very hard and some plucked up the courage and moved to south, long before the crossing were opened. I think there were handfull of people but not really sure how many. Certainly I was aware of some Bodamya residence who moved back in he 80s.
There is on man from Dali who did that in the sixties that we discussed before.

So these people presumably had to travel via the UK or some other third country?

There was an easier route, remember walking distance from Lurucina.

[Jimski999]

Thank you for your answer YFred. I understand why quite a number moved north of their own accord and can understand the reasoning behind their decision but was it a demand by the Greek Cypriots that the Turkish Cypriots who had stayed in their Southern villages went North or was it a demand by the Turkish Army as part of the cease fire that they left their homes. I am curious as to why the UN were involved in forcibly moving these poor people. Unfortunately I can't give you the name of the village at the moment as I'm at work and won't be back in Cyprus for a couple of weeks.

[insan]

Thank you for your answer YFred. I understand why quite a number moved north of their own accord and can understand the reasoning behind their decision but was it a demand by the Greek Cypriots that the Turkish Cypriots who had stayed in their Southern villages went North or was it a demand by the Turkish Army as part of the cease fire that they left their homes. I am curious as to why the UN were involved in forcibly moving these poor people. Unfortunately I can't give you the name of the village at the moment as I'm at work and won't be back in Cyprus for a couple of weeks.

It was the demand of then the TC leadership and Turkish government... of course supported by then the Turkish army officials. Most of the TCs who couldn't flee before, during or shortly afterwards the events of 1974, were elders, women, children and disableds. They too wish to leave South and go North because their husbands, adult males and some relatives had already fled to North and they too had security concerns.

As for UN involvement in evacuation of those people arise from the concerns that still active irregualrs of EOKA-B, other paramilitary groups and even the GCs who lost their relatives might attack to TCs for various reasons under the then hostile environment.

[Jimski999]

Thank you Insan for the information; much appreciated.