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[Dumblonde]

Historical monuments should transcend politics, but no matter whether it be the ROC or the TRNC we get the same old shit.
This memorial commemorates the British forces who died during the period 1955-59.The cemetery is British.
I am sorry I cannot be at the ceremony tomorrow, but I will be thinking of the families of the men and the civilian women who were murdered- shot in the back.
What really sickens me is the blame game, the lies that are coming out of this in Cyprus. The invective from the Chairman of the EOKA Veterans Association beggars belief; he likens it to England allowing a monument to Germans who died there in WW2. In fact the UK is mature enough to do just that; there is a monument for the Germans in UK. Unfortunately Cyprus is way off the maturity league, being under 50 years independent and having become divided after only 14 years and blaming all outsiders ever since for the CYProb.
The correspondent in today's Cyprus Weekly, Philippos Stylianou, suggests the monument is mainly the initiative of the Brits who settled in "illegal"" properties in the North. Well are you??? I'd be interested to hear about this and why don't you email Fil Ippos and tell him so. [email protected]
You will find his article under features in Cyprus weekly on-line.

Whatever the British politicians' motives, at that time, the men in the forces were serving their country and fighting terrorists (heroes here), so
I would like to say that this monument is solely to honour and respect the sacrifice that the young men made for their country.

[Oracle]

Will anyone from the UK government be there?

I got the feeling they were rather ashamed of you and your pseudo-monument.

[Get Real!]

Historical monuments should transcend politics, but no matter whether it be the ROC or the TRNC we get the same old shit.
This memorial commemorates the British forces who died during the period 1955-59.The cemetery is British.

The British should’ve never come here in the first place, just as the Turks should’ve never come here either!

Don’t come here, die, and then cry wolf!

And btw, when do you plan to return all the stolen ancient Cypriot artifacts you’ve got stashed at the British museum?

Now take their bones or whatever’s left of your invaders and get the fuck out of Cyprus!

[Malapapa]

I would like to say that this monument is solely to honour and respect the sacrifice that the young men made for their country.

Sacrifice for their country? I don't recall Cypriot military forces threatening to invade Britain's shores.

Their country shouldn't have been occupying a foreign land. These unfortunate young men died because their country wanted to keep Cyprus enslaved. Their country wasn't worth the sacrifice.

[Paphitis]

Historical monuments should transcend politics, but no matter whether it be the ROC or the TRNC we get the same old shit.

This is true. Monuments should indeed transcend politics.

So I feel very sorry that you have politicised your fallen by erecting a monument on occupied land.

Dumblonde wrote:

This memorial commemorates the British forces who died during the period 1955-59.The cemetery is British.

The fact that the monument is British and commemorates the fallen of the Cyprus crisis is not important.

What is important is the sad politicising of this monument as you have built it on land you own legally but within the territories of the occupied north, and this alone is a very big slap in the face to the long suffering Cypriot people, because it highlights your de facto recognition of the "trnc" regime.

This is very sad...

Dumblonde wrote:

I am sorry I cannot be at the ceremony tomorrow, but I will be thinking of the families of the men and the civilian women who were murdered- shot in the back.

It is extremely disrespectful to your fallen and to their families to have hijacked and politicised their sacrifice by erecting a monument on lands which were stolen from the RoC and which were ethnically cleansed of some 180,000 indigenous Cypriots. I am certain, that your fallen would not want to be remembered like this...

Dumblonde wrote:

What really sickens me is the blame game, the lies that are coming out of this in Cyprus. The invective from the Chairman of the EOKA Veterans Association beggars belief; he likens it to England allowing a monument to Germans who died there in WW2. In fact the UK is mature enough to do just that; there is a monument for the Germans in UK. Unfortunately Cyprus is way off the maturity league, being under 50 years independent and having become divided after only 14 years and blaming all outsiders ever since for the CYProb.

I find the above very insulting.

Cypriots are a very forgiving people, and if you had taken the correct approach with the RoC Government, then I am certain that they would have granted you a small plot to build a proper and dignified memorial within the unoccupied territories, in order to foster better relations if nothing else.

Furthermore, you still refuse to acknowledge the sacrifice of the EOKA fallen between 55-59, as legal combatants fighting for self determination. Whilst the British respect the fallen of Luftwaffe Airmen in WW2, you still refuse to respect the sacrifice of the EOKA fallen. This is far more telling of your own maturity.

I had suggested to your committee that this memorial should be relocated to the unoccupied sector, and that another memorial be built which commemorates the fallen of all combatants, both British and Cypriot, but your committee declined. You are far too conservative to be forgiving, because to you, EOKA marked the destruction of colonialism in Cyprus and hence your refusal to acknowledge those valiant EOKA men who were fighting for their own freedom on their own lands.

I cant describe my sadness to your attitude and mentality which still belongs in the 1950s...

Dumblonde wrote:

The correspondent in today's Cyprus Weekly, Philippos Stylianou, suggests the monument is mainly the initiative of the Brits who settled in "illegal"" properties in the North. Well are you??? I'd be interested to hear about this and why don't you email Fil Ippos and tell him so. [email protected]
You will find his article under features in Cyprus weekly on-line.

I have no comment to make on the above other than the fact that their are some Brits who do reside on stolen properties, and some of them might also be involved with this monument, which compromises the integrity of the monument even further.

The saddest thing of all, is that your fallen have been tarnished by your own doing, and so you should all be ashamed of yourselves...

Dumblonde wrote:

Whatever the British politicians' motives, at that time, the men in the forces were serving their country and fighting terrorists (heroes here), so
I would like to say that this monument is solely to honour and respect the sacrifice that the young men made for their country.

It is true that these men were serving their country at the time, and their sacrifice should be acknowledged, just like the EOKA men were also serving their nation and fighting for self determination. and whose sacrifice should also be acknowledged by Britain as combatants fighting for a higher cause, and not as terrorists.

I feel it is you who lacks the maturity to understand...

[bill cobbett]

May the Lord Have Mercy on those commerated.

... It's an outrageous insult to the memory of anyone's dead that the organisers of this memorial felt the need to sneak this in under the cover of the Occupation.

Underhanded. Disgraceful. Contemptible.

This is not "remembering the fallen", this is pissing on them.

[Paphitis]

Admin,

Can you relocate this thread to the Cyprus Problem section?

I have a feeling that David Carter will be joinging us any second...

[halil]

did u ever think during 1958 TC were also get killed by British soldiers.
Did u ever think how those TC's families are felt today ?

u are only talking about how GC's felt about it. Memorial opened in Kyrenia also British soldiers who lost their lives in Cyprus were remembered with a ceremony at the British Cemetery in Famagusta today.

how things are strange !






The ceremony was attended by representatives of United Nations Peace Keeping Force in Cyprus and British Residents Society.

Two minutes silence was observed, poems were read and speeches were delivered during the ceremony.

Delivering a speech on behalf of the Famagusta (Magosa) British Cemetery Committee, Marion Stuart said that the people lying in the cemetery have lost their lives for their homeland and added that those people who lost their lives for our future should never be forgotten.

[Malapapa]

Their homeland's still got a lot to answer for in Cyprus. Some future Britain and its divide and rule policies bequeathed the island.

[CBBB]

His/her username says it all!