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[Paphitis]

Well my post really got you going didn't it. And Get Real, I find your language, use of the F-Word appalling. What the heck is the Moderator doing here? You'll be pleased to know this LADY is going to take herself off this forum because it seems one can't have a decent debate, just a tirade from bitter and twisted people who can't see the mess they are in was self-inflicted.
Kalinikta, Adio, Yassas.

What a shame.

I was looking forward to a good healthy debate with you, so I could perhaps highlight your arrogance in rubbing your monument in the "trnc" in our faces as if to denote your defacto recognition of the occupation regime.

Instead of having an arrogant and pompous attitude, only Brits are renowned for, you could have taken a much more respectable approach by only having normal headstones at the graves, since that is where they are buried, and then negotiate with the RoC Government to build a dignified memorial in the unoccupied territories where an Armistice Day ceremony can take place along with official RoC attendance. Perhaps a combined British and Cypriot memorial could have been possible....

You have disrespected your own dead, and their families, by doing this, and once again this is a very sad reflection on you and all those involved with this very politicised "memorial".

Kalinihta....

[Oracle]

May also say that when we've finished off the Jerkish Regime and the little matter of the Occupation, there's going to be an awful lot of people with time on their hands who can turn their attention to the remaining matter of Mr and Mrs Rhubarb Man, The Land Stealers, the Second Illegal Attempted GB Colonisation, and done so in Traditional CY Ways.

Bill, the only responsible of the on-going situation r not Turks-TCs and Brits. Don't forget that there has been no attempt by GC side on solving the peoperties issue since 1974... another fact is that, only the 7% of GC properties in North was sold to foreigners in the last 35 years. Had the properties and territory under control of each community issues been solved in the last 35 years; the properties that were sold to foreigners would have been the properties belonged to TCs... and Turks-TCs-Brits r not the only responsibles of not resolved properties issue either.

So why do u feel exaggerating the issue and lowly accuse those people as land stealers, thieves, new colonisers etc?

Do u want me to accuse ur side with a similar manner? I've told u that in such situations it's not difficult to retaliate with a similar manner.

Reh Insaini,

...back in '74 we had an unwritten agreement, 40,000 of you lot take refuge in our houses and 160,000 of us in yours.

Some of your lot have broken that agreement. Firstly by the Dodgy Icedigger Exchange Pollocks and then secondly by "selling" on
other peoples' homes to cheap-skate ex-pats.

What is your response to these scams? To frigging well support them!

Contrast this reh Insan with the situation in the Free Areas ... where (as you may know) if you walk through the crossing point at the top end of Ledras, you will find that a good grissy has set up, at his/her own expense an info point, staffed by tissies, where tissies may go and seek help, in their own language, as to where to go for passports, ids and where to go to reclaim their lands and how to set about it.

Now you stop trying to blackmail and threaten with your percentages and tell this forum who is doing the right thing for reconciliation? Who is showing the proper and due respect for the property of others?

Reh Bill I've many times stated the mistakes made by TC-Turkish side. I wish my side had made a proposal for establishment of a properties and territorial adjustment board to deal with these issues back in second half of 70s. They hadn't made such a proposel neither ur side done. Had either side proposed it most probably the properties and territorial adjustment issues would have been solved in the last 35 years.

Together with the TC refugees of 1963-1974 period there r abt 75.000 TC refugees not 40.000 as u cited. The events of 1963-1974 deprived these people right to their property and our refugees r more disadvantaged when compared to ur refugees because of isolations.

Yes, there is a corruption in North but not all cases which covers sale of so-called exchanged land/property to foreigners can be considered as a part of corruption in North. There r refugees who needs cash for various reasons and they have no options other than selling their so-called exchanged land/property to anyone that offers the price they ask.

Reh Insan, we're in danger of going around in the usual circles.

Come back to the Ex-pat Land Stealers who have set up this memorial. Have they done right or wrong when they take advantage of the misery of others when they knowingly buy other people's land at bargain prices. Will you condemn what they've done?

(Tell you something mate, could probably live quite comfortably next to you in CY but couldn't put up with that Scabby Lot. We have to get them packed and out of CY.)

Reh Billy mate, of course it is unacceptable to the legal owner of the land/property the sale of his/her land without his/her permission. It is unacceptable to me too but it is neither the fault of the seller nor the fault of the buyer. The responsibles of this situation to blame r the 2 sides leadership who r not capable, who r self-seeker politicians that were/are not able to solve the Cyprus problem...

Stop insulting every-one's intelligence. They can see through your excuses for what is nothing but opportunistic pure greed.

While for the last 35 years you guys in the south have been getting rich fat and ugly whilst starving the TC population out of Cyprus, but we are the greedy ones. Keci guldu koyuna - The goat laughed at the sheep.

You made your bed now lie in it you lazy scumbag! You'll soon be tossed out with the dirty linen ...

[Gregory]

You've shot yourselves in the foot basically. Instead of a monument that honours your fallen, you've now created a focus point for 850,000 Cypriots to vent their curses at. Had a request been placed to the GOvernment of Cyprus it would have been considered and probably granted. (As confirmed by one of our Euro MP's Eleni Theocharous)

You've managed to entangle the memories of your dead into a political blackhole and will pay the consequences for it.

Peter Millet will find it a very difficult year to remain in Cyprus.

[YFred]

May also say that when we've finished off the Jerkish Regime and the little matter of the Occupation, there's going to be an awful lot of people with time on their hands who can turn their attention to the remaining matter of Mr and Mrs Rhubarb Man, The Land Stealers, the Second Illegal Attempted GB Colonisation, and done so in Traditional CY Ways.

Bill, the only responsible of the on-going situation r not Turks-TCs and Brits. Don't forget that there has been no attempt by GC side on solving the peoperties issue since 1974... another fact is that, only the 7% of GC properties in North was sold to foreigners in the last 35 years. Had the properties and territory under control of each community issues been solved in the last 35 years; the properties that were sold to foreigners would have been the properties belonged to TCs... and Turks-TCs-Brits r not the only responsibles of not resolved properties issue either.

So why do u feel exaggerating the issue and lowly accuse those people as land stealers, thieves, new colonisers etc?

Do u want me to accuse ur side with a similar manner? I've told u that in such situations it's not difficult to retaliate with a similar manner.

Reh Insaini,

...back in '74 we had an unwritten agreement, 40,000 of you lot take refuge in our houses and 160,000 of us in yours.

Some of your lot have broken that agreement. Firstly by the Dodgy Icedigger Exchange Pollocks and then secondly by "selling" on
other peoples' homes to cheap-skate ex-pats.

What is your response to these scams? To frigging well support them!

Contrast this reh Insan with the situation in the Free Areas ... where (as you may know) if you walk through the crossing point at the top end of Ledras, you will find that a good grissy has set up, at his/her own expense an info point, staffed by tissies, where tissies may go and seek help, in their own language, as to where to go for passports, ids and where to go to reclaim their lands and how to set about it.

Now you stop trying to blackmail and threaten with your percentages and tell this forum who is doing the right thing for reconciliation? Who is showing the proper and due respect for the property of others?

Reh Bill I've many times stated the mistakes made by TC-Turkish side. I wish my side had made a proposal for establishment of a properties and territorial adjustment board to deal with these issues back in second half of 70s. They hadn't made such a proposel neither ur side done. Had either side proposed it most probably the properties and territorial adjustment issues would have been solved in the last 35 years.

Together with the TC refugees of 1963-1974 period there r abt 75.000 TC refugees not 40.000 as u cited. The events of 1963-1974 deprived these people right to their property and our refugees r more disadvantaged when compared to ur refugees because of isolations.

Yes, there is a corruption in North but not all cases which covers sale of so-called exchanged land/property to foreigners can be considered as a part of corruption in North. There r refugees who needs cash for various reasons and they have no options other than selling their so-called exchanged land/property to anyone that offers the price they ask.

Reh Insan, we're in danger of going around in the usual circles.

Come back to the Ex-pat Land Stealers who have set up this memorial. Have they done right or wrong when they take advantage of the misery of others when they knowingly buy other people's land at bargain prices. Will you condemn what they've done?

(Tell you something mate, could probably live quite comfortably next to you in CY but couldn't put up with that Scabby Lot. We have to get them packed and out of CY.)

Reh Billy mate, of course it is unacceptable to the legal owner of the land/property the sale of his/her land without his/her permission. It is unacceptable to me too but it is neither the fault of the seller nor the fault of the buyer. The responsibles of this situation to blame r the 2 sides leadership who r not capable, who r self-seeker politicians that were/are not able to solve the Cyprus problem...

Stop insulting every-one's intelligence. They can see through your excuses for what is nothing but opportunistic pure greed.

While for the last 35 years you guys in the south have been getting rich fat and ugly whilst starving the TC population out of Cyprus, but we are the greedy ones. Keci guldu koyuna - The goat laughed at the sheep.

You made your bed now lie in it you lazy scumbag! You'll soon be tossed out with the dirty linen ...

I was tossed out in 72, remember? Travelled 2500 miles to find hope and make a living and produce the next generation of the YFred clan (rather successfully I thought) whilst you have stolen my lands and you have the audacity to call me lazy scumbag. Madam it's not just conscience you lack it is also a brain.

[Jimski999]

I believe Waynes Keep is in the Buffer Zone of the Green Line though access to it is restricted and controlled by the Turkish Army; that being the reasoning to place the memorial in Kyrenia. My opinion is that it would have been a more magnaminous gesture to open up unfettered access to Waynes Keep and allow the relations of the fallen to visit their loved ones any time they want to.

[Oracle]

I believe Waynes Keep is in the Buffer Zone of the Green Line though access to it is restricted and controlled by the Turkish Army; that being the reasoning to place the memorial in Kyrenia. My opinion is that it would have been a more magnaminous gesture to open up unfettered access to Waynes Keep and allow the relations of the fallen to visit their loved ones any time they want to.

I wonder why these fools chose to erect another "monument" under the auspices of those who restrict access to their first memorial?

[Get Real!]

I was tossed out in 72, remember? Travelled 2500 miles to find hope and make a living and produce the next generation of the YFred clan

You know one of these days you’re just going to have to make your mind up…

Were you “tossed out” in 1972 or ducking bullets in 1974?

Can't have both worlds... old boy!

[YFred]

I was tossed out in 72, remember? Travelled 2500 miles to find hope and make a living and produce the next generation of the YFred clan

You know one of these days you’re just going to have to make your mind up…

Were you “tossed out” in 1972 or ducking bullets in 1974?

Can't have both worlds... old boy!

Stop playing games, the bullets were being ducked in 63,64 and 67 and you know it.

Stop playing the simple simon old boy.

[Oracle]

I was tossed out in 72, remember? Travelled 2500 miles to find hope and make a living and produce the next generation of the YFred clan (rather successfully I thought) whilst you have stolen my lands and you have the audacity to call me lazy scumbag. Madam it's not just conscience you lack it is also a brain.

.... when all you had to do to "escape" from GCs was go ~50 miles towards Turkey!

Something doesn't quite ring true.

[YFred]

I was tossed out in 72, remember? Travelled 2500 miles to find hope and make a living and produce the next generation of the YFred clan (rather successfully I thought) whilst you have stolen my lands and you have the audacity to call me lazy scumbag. Madam it's not just conscience you lack it is also a brain.

.... when all you had to do to "escape" from GCs was go ~50 miles towards Turkey!

Something doesn't quite ring true.

You've been standing near those church gambanellis for too long. It has affected your hearing and your eyes as well as your brains.
How many people left between 1963 and 1974 and went to Turkey? Are you as stupid as you pretend or are you just playing dumb.