The Best Cyprus Community

Skip to content


So Called "Legal Property activity in the south"

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

So Called "Legal Property activity in the south"

Postby YFred » Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:09 pm

I wish we could have such wonderful laws in the TRNC too. You are such good law makers, gosh.
Property group condemns title deeds laws
By Charles Charalambous

DRAFT legislation to deal with the estimated 130,000 unissued title deeds fails to “grasp the nettle” of the issue as it does not address in any way the main issue of developer mortgages, a leading property action group said yesterday.

In a statement to be circulated today to British and Cypriot MEPs – a copy of which has been obtained by the Cyprus Mail – the Cyprus Property Action Group (CPAG) contends that the government’s proposed legislation currently before the House Legal Affairs Committee “in effect is merely an amnesty for developers who have failed to adhere to planning/building permits issued or even built illegally without these permits”.

Consequently, it fails to address the main problem of “developers taking mortgages on properties they have also sold to unsuspecting buyers”. Buyers then “wait years to obtain title deeds and stand to lose their homes should the developer go bust and if the buyers cannot then pay off ‘their’ portion of the mortgage”.

After arguing that successive governments have “totally abandoned” enforcing the Completion Certificate law “which is designed specifically to protect buyers and the integrity of the planning system”, the CPAG statement also says that by creating three categories of title deed “the proposed legislation in our view also seriously undermines the rights of the buyers who may be subjected to the effects of such provisions.”

The three new categories defined in the draft legislation are: “complete” or clean title; “imperfect” title, presenting minor irregularities in relation to the building permit; and “limited” title, presenting substantial illegalities in relation to the building permit.

In CPAG’s view, anything less than a complete or clean title deed in practice would prevent a buyer from selling a property or taking out a mortgage. Since Article 23 of the Constitution (Property Rights) guarantees every owner the right to dispose of their property, CPAG considers “this particular amendment as being totally unconstitutional”.

“The Government could appear to be colluding with dishonest developers to breach bona fide sales agreements through their ability to apply for these inadequate type 2 and 3 title deeds.”

The statement also quotes a press announcement issued by the Cyprus Bar Association a month ago, which said that “there is concern that the amendments will not solve the problem, but add to it”, and recommended opposition to the three amending bills.

CPAG accuses the Cyprus government of “consistently misleading” the UK government and the EU – which have applied pressure for a resolution to the problem – by suggesting that the proposed legislation represents “action to address the serious issues raised by these bodies.”

The statement concludes: “Sooner or later they will have no choice but to address the issue of developer mortgages. The question is: just how much damage to the economy, the image of Cyprus and people’s lives will have been caused before the Government shoulders its responsibilities?”

Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2009


Legalised illegality more likely and from the internationally recognised super roc.
User avatar
YFred
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 12100
Joined: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:22 am
Location: Lurucina-Upon-Thames

Re: So Called "Legal Property activity in the south&

Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:21 pm

YFred wrote:I wish we could have such wonderful laws in the TRNC too. You are such good law makers, gosh.

Dumb comment coming from a people who have stolen and are flogging off property that doesn't belong to them! :lol:

How the Greek Cypriots deal with their LEGAL properties and developers is THEIR problem not yours YFronts! :wink:
User avatar
Get Real!
Forum Addict
Forum Addict
 
Posts: 48333
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:25 am
Location: Nicosia

Re: So Called "Legal Property activity in the south&

Postby YFred » Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:29 pm

Get Real! wrote:
YFred wrote:I wish we could have such wonderful laws in the TRNC too. You are such good law makers, gosh.

Dumb comment coming from a people who have stolen and are flogging off property that doesn't belong to them! :lol:

How the Greek Cypriots deal with their LEGAL properties and developers is THEIR problem not yours YFronts! :wink:

Ğaro do Rizokarpazo,
I've been living in the wrong country. It is legal to borrow money on a property and then sell it to another without the knowledge of the mortgage company, in an EU country. What are you on old boy? I wish I could have some of that. Do you not appreciate the real meaning behind this state of affairs? Your democracy is controlled by crooks if you cannot change the law to stop their crooked activities. RoC what a wonderful place.
User avatar
YFred
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 12100
Joined: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:22 am
Location: Lurucina-Upon-Thames

Re: So Called "Legal Property activity in the south&

Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:37 pm

YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
YFred wrote:I wish we could have such wonderful laws in the TRNC too. You are such good law makers, gosh.

Dumb comment coming from a people who have stolen and are flogging off property that doesn't belong to them! :lol:

How the Greek Cypriots deal with their LEGAL properties and developers is THEIR problem not yours YFronts! :wink:

Ğaro do Rizokarpazo,
I've been living in the wrong country. It is legal to borrow money on a property and then sell it to another without the knowledge of the mortgage company, in an EU country. What are you on old boy? I wish I could have some of that. Do you not appreciate the real meaning behind this state of affairs? Your democracy is controlled by crooks if you cannot change the law to stop their crooked activities. RoC what a wonderful place.

Your simplification of the matter just goes to show how little you know of what’s going on. There are financial government schemes for developers from lending institutions and it’s a loophole or two from these schemes that some of these developers have exploited to create the current mess, which will be sorted out eventually now that the government has seen the problems and is going after them. All of which of course is irrelevant to the Cyprus problem!

Now back to the Turkish Cypriot usurpation of GC properties which is at the heart of the Cyprus problem! :wink:
User avatar
Get Real!
Forum Addict
Forum Addict
 
Posts: 48333
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:25 am
Location: Nicosia


Return to Cyprus Problem

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest