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[Expatkiwi]

:roll: The Turkic states (all of them in Asia) are Turkic because the majority of the population in those states is Turkic. In Cyprus you are a minority in all parts of this island.

You can have your independence, sovereign country and everything else you want but not on OUR land. Go find your own land to have your country on because you have no right to take ours and we will NEVER give it to you.

Turkish Cypriots did own a chunk of Cyprus land, Piratis. Now, the actual percentage is still up for debate, but regardless, that hardly makes the entire island Greek now, does it?

[Paphitis]

:roll: The Turkic states (all of them in Asia) are Turkic because the majority of the population in those states is Turkic. In Cyprus you are a minority in all parts of this island.

You can have your independence, sovereign country and everything else you want but not on OUR land. Go find your own land to have your country on because you have no right to take ours and we will NEVER give it to you.

Turkish Cypriots did own a chunk of Cyprus land, Piratis. Now, the actual percentage is still up for debate, but regardless, that hardly makes the entire island Greek now, does it?

They officially owned about 13% of Cyprus according to British records which later became the Cyprus Land Registry in 1960.

They are still entitled to all that land, but what they are not entitled to is steal 37% of RoC sovereign territory which is overwhelmingly owned by Greek Cypriots, Armenian Cypriots, Latin Cypriots, Maronite Cypriots and anyone else, ethnically cleanse the population and allow Turkey and its military to occupy these lands they do not own and alter the island's demographics is illegal and will never be endorsed by the international community, which is why the "trnc" has not been recognised wince the 'UDI' in 1983.

[Piratis]

:roll: The Turkic states (all of them in Asia) are Turkic because the majority of the population in those states is Turkic. In Cyprus you are a minority in all parts of this island.

You can have your independence, sovereign country and everything else you want but not on OUR land. Go find your own land to have your country on because you have no right to take ours and we will NEVER give it to you.

Turkish Cypriots did own a chunk of Cyprus land, Piratis. Now, the actual percentage is still up for debate, but regardless, that hardly makes the entire island Greek now, does it?

The property the TCs own is spread all over Cyprus and not concentrated in any particular part of the island. Any way you divide Cyprus in 2 (East/south/west/north etc) the majority of all parts is always Greek Cypriot (by a a huge margin).

If that was not the case then Turks would not need to perform ethnic cleansing of the majority of the population in order to declare the "trnc". They would have declared it over the territory where they were already the majority. But there was no such territory.

And it is not debatable at all how much TC own, since this is something recorded since the time of the British rule. (or maybe you will claim that TCs became the big land owners of Cyprus between 1960-1974? Well, that would be contrary to your other claims about that period, wouldn't it?)

Nobody said that the entire population of Cyprus is Greek. If you know of any country that the entire population is of just one ethnic group let me know. Minorities exist everywhere, and the TCs are a classic example of one such minority.

[YFred]

:roll: The Turkic states (all of them in Asia) are Turkic because the majority of the population in those states is Turkic. In Cyprus you are a minority in all parts of this island.

You can have your independence, sovereign country and everything else you want but not on OUR land. Go find your own land to have your country on because you have no right to take ours and we will NEVER give it to you.

Turkish Cypriots did own a chunk of Cyprus land, Piratis. Now, the actual percentage is still up for debate, but regardless, that hardly makes the entire island Greek now, does it?

The property the TCs own is spread all over Cyprus and not concentrated in any particular part of the island. Any way you divide Cyprus in 2 (East/south/west/north etc) the majority of all parts is always Greek Cypriot (by a a huge margin).

If that was not the case then Turks would not need to perform ethnic cleansing of the majority of the population in order to declare the "trnc". They would have declared it over the territory where they were already the majority. But there was no such territory.

And it is not debatable at all how much TC own, since this is something recorded since the time of the British rule. (or maybe you will claim that TCs became the big land owners of Cyprus between 1960-1974? Well, that would be contrary to your other claims about that period, wouldn't it?)

Nobody said that the entire population of Cyprus is Greek. If you know of any country that the entire population is of just one ethnic group let me know. Minorities exist everywhere, and the TCs are a classic example of one such minority.

The border is drawn; it will be adjusted to the north to solve the problem. Your maths is not much to write home about, if you are valuing TC land in the south as the same as GC land in the north, donum for donum. It will balance in the end. I suspect that the TCs will sell the land in the south and buy land in the north which will correct what seems to be unfair, but in actual fact is totally fair.

You did not realise that by suffocating the TCs in actual fact you were driving the value of the GC properties down, so in a way it is a punishment to the GC government for the crimes of the last 35 years against the innocent TCs. You do accept that collective punishment of a people is against the international law.

There is always the possibility that the TCs will not sell their property in the south and simply rent it at a good premium to the GCs and in turn rent GC property in the north at the appropriate price (Cheap Cheap). So you see it is economics pure and simple.

Which is exactly what I and the rest of the YFred clan intend to do.

[Paphitis]

:roll: The Turkic states (all of them in Asia) are Turkic because the majority of the population in those states is Turkic. In Cyprus you are a minority in all parts of this island.

You can have your independence, sovereign country and everything else you want but not on OUR land. Go find your own land to have your country on because you have no right to take ours and we will NEVER give it to you.

Turkish Cypriots did own a chunk of Cyprus land, Piratis. Now, the actual percentage is still up for debate, but regardless, that hardly makes the entire island Greek now, does it?

The property the TCs own is spread all over Cyprus and not concentrated in any particular part of the island. Any way you divide Cyprus in 2 (East/south/west/north etc) the majority of all parts is always Greek Cypriot (by a a huge margin).

If that was not the case then Turks would not need to perform ethnic cleansing of the majority of the population in order to declare the "trnc". They would have declared it over the territory where they were already the majority. But there was no such territory.

And it is not debatable at all how much TC own, since this is something recorded since the time of the British rule. (or maybe you will claim that TCs became the big land owners of Cyprus between 1960-1974? Well, that would be contrary to your other claims about that period, wouldn't it?)

Nobody said that the entire population of Cyprus is Greek. If you know of any country that the entire population is of just one ethnic group let me know. Minorities exist everywhere, and the TCs are a classic example of one such minority.

The border is drawn;

What border?

it will be adjusted to the north to solve the problem.

We are not interested in a measly few % of land in exchange for second class rights!

Your maths is not much to write home about, if you are valuing TC land in the south as the same as GC land in the north, donum for donum.

I'll have you know that I'm a number crunching machine.

And no, that is not what I said.

It will balance in the end.

What will balance?

I suspect that the TCs will sell the land in the south and buy land in the north which will correct what seems to be unfair, but in actual fact is totally fair.

All the TC property in the south won't be enough to buy all the stolen GC properties in the 'north'.

You did not realise that by suffocating the TCs in actual fact you were driving the value of the GC properties down, so in a way it is a punishment to the GC government for the crimes of the last 35 years against the innocent TCs. You do accept that collective punishment of a people is against the international law.

We give you citizenship, jobs, free medical, recognize your property rights and you call this 'isolation'?

If anything, the TCs should be thankful....

There is always the possibility that the TCs will not sell their property in the south and simply rent it at a good premium to the GCs and in turn rent GC property in the north at the appropriate price (Cheap Cheap). So you see it is economics pure and simple.

So now you let the cat out of the bag.

So the TC will rent their properties in the south for a good premium and also rent all the stolen properties in the 'north'

What is your is yours, and what is mine is also yours!

Which is exactly what I and the rest of the YFred clan intend to do.

So Kikapu was right!

Yet another admission that you possess stolen property.

GOTCHA!

[Get Real!]

The border is drawn; it will be adjusted to the north to solve the problem. Your maths is not much to write home about, if you are valuing TC land in the south as the same as GC land in the north, donum for donum. It will balance in the end. I suspect that the TCs will sell the land in the south and buy land in the north which will correct what seems to be unfair, but in actual fact is totally fair.

If the "border" will be adjusted to the north what makes you think you'll also have land/properties in the south to sell?

[YFred]

The border is drawn; it will be adjusted to the north to solve the problem. Your maths is not much to write home about, if you are valuing TC land in the south as the same as GC land in the north, donum for donum. It will balance in the end. I suspect that the TCs will sell the land in the south and buy land in the north which will correct what seems to be unfair, but in actual fact is totally fair.

If the "border" will be adjusted to the north what makes you think you'll also have land/properties in the south to sell?

Ise delya bellos, ehases ulla da prilithgasu yemu.

What difference does it make to personal property ownership where the the state border is drawn, everyone will have to decide what to do with their property.

[Get Real!]

The border is drawn; it will be adjusted to the north to solve the problem. Your maths is not much to write home about, if you are valuing TC land in the south as the same as GC land in the north, donum for donum. It will balance in the end. I suspect that the TCs will sell the land in the south and buy land in the north which will correct what seems to be unfair, but in actual fact is totally fair.

If the "border" will be adjusted to the north what makes you think you'll also have land/properties in the south to sell?

Ise delya bellos, ehases ulla da prilithgasu yemu.

What difference does it make to personal property ownership where the the state border is drawn, everyone will have to decide what to do with their property.

What you were essentially saying earlier was that you’ll have to return land currently under occupation, but you also went on to claim that you’ll (somehow) have land in the south to use/sell???

You're not making any sense...

[YFred]

The border is drawn; it will be adjusted to the north to solve the problem. Your maths is not much to write home about, if you are valuing TC land in the south as the same as GC land in the north, donum for donum. It will balance in the end. I suspect that the TCs will sell the land in the south and buy land in the north which will correct what seems to be unfair, but in actual fact is totally fair.

If the "border" will be adjusted to the north what makes you think you'll also have land/properties in the south to sell?

Ise delya bellos, ehases ulla da prilithgasu yemu.

What difference does it make to personal property ownership where the the state border is drawn, everyone will have to decide what to do with their property.

What you were essentially saying earlier was that you’ll have to return land currently under occupation, but you also went on to claim that you’ll (somehow) have land in the south to use/sell???

You're not making any sense...

Back to primary school for you dear boy. So you can understand state borders and personal property and the difference. Then come back and join us so we can have a meaningfull discussion in the meantime I'll carry on posting your posts shall I?

[Get Real!]

The border is drawn; it will be adjusted to the north to solve the problem. Your maths is not much to write home about, if you are valuing TC land in the south as the same as GC land in the north, donum for donum. It will balance in the end. I suspect that the TCs will sell the land in the south and buy land in the north which will correct what seems to be unfair, but in actual fact is totally fair.

If the "border" will be adjusted to the north what makes you think you'll also have land/properties in the south to sell?

Ise delya bellos, ehases ulla da prilithgasu yemu.

What difference does it make to personal property ownership where the the state border is drawn, everyone will have to decide what to do with their property.

What you were essentially saying earlier was that you’ll have to return land currently under occupation, but you also went on to claim that you’ll (somehow) have land in the south to use/sell???

You're not making any sense...

Back to primary school for you dear boy. So you can understand state borders and personal property and the difference. Then come back and join us so we can have a meaningfull discussion in the meantime I'll carry on posting your posts shall I?

Do you know what your problem is? It’s the typical Turkish Cypriot GREED and overestimation of your intelligence!

Land under the Turkish Cypriots has sunk to rubbish levels whereas land under the Greek Cypriots has skyrocketed in value, so the “smart” Turkish Cypriot thinks…

“Hey, I want that piece I had in the south because it’s now worth 5 times more than what I looted back in 74!”

…but what Nasreddin Hodja forgets is that the Turkish Cypriots are expected to RETURN land, a LOT of land, not take!

If there is to be any exchanges then there is no reason why EVERYONE should not go back to whatever they owned in the first place!

Understand Hoja?