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[insan]

President of Sudan - Cyprus' Ambassador - Credentials
Nicosia, Dec 10 (CNA) -- President of Sudan Omar Hasan El Bashir expressed his full support to UN efforts in finding a solution to the Cyprus question based on UN resolutions.
Receiving the credentials of Cyprus' Ambassador in Khartum, Dimitris Drousiotis, who is based in Cairo, President Bashir pointed out the need to respect and implement all relevant UN resolutions on Cyprus, adding that Sudan supports a just solution to the Cyprus issue, which will ensure the unity and territorial integrity of Cyprus and respect for the human rights of all Cypriots. CNA/RM/MM)

http://www.hri.org/news/cyprus/cna/2000 ... na.html#02

Ohhh funny people of the funny world! Play the game as how it suits, never care abt how ridiculous u look.

Insan,surely even you should question the validity of your quote here. A news peiece from nearly 10 years ago. Come on. Please use something more up to date if you wish to make a valid point mate.

Ohh yeah.. 8 years ago things were different in Sudan though Bashir was then the president... Bashir today exists tomorrow not but relations and agreements established with Sudan will remain as long as this world turns around. That's what not suits u to understand... sorry but it's a kind of zealousy.

The big difference to all of that my friend is that in 2008 Bashir was charged by the ICC for crimes against humanity and war crimes. I do not think he would come to the RoC as he would be arrested. However it will be interesting to see if this happens in Turkey.

What relations and and agreements are you on about mate?

Mate, Turkey and also some other countries believe that arrestment of Bashir would worsen the situation in Sudan; so that Turkey several months ago asked for postponement the arrestment issue of Bashir. Do u believe the arrestment of Bashir would help improvements of state affairs in Sudan? No. The ICC decision abt the arrestment of Bashir is completely political and that's why most of the muslim countries r against it.

In this context, there's nothing wrong of inviting Bashir to Turkey and talk, make agreements that would contribute to national and international common interests of Sudan and Turkey.

As for what kind of relations they r on; trade, banking and a strategic partnership.

[B25]

Turkey put on defensive as al Bashir’s planned visit invites controversy

Thomas Seibert, Foreign Correspondent

* Last Updated: November 05. 2009 10:52PM UAE / November 5. 2009 6:52PM GMT

http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll ... /1002/NEWS

ISTANBUL // A planned visit by Sudan’s president, Omar al Bashir, to Istanbul next week has put the Turkish government on the defensive, with critics accusing Ankara of undermining its own commitment to the rule of law by hosting a man accused of crimes against humanity.

“We do not want him to come,” Ozlem Altiparmak, co-ordinator of the Coalition for the International Criminal Court, a pressure group made up of 16 Turkish human rights organisations that want Turkey to submit to the court’s jurisdiction, said yesterday. “He is a fugitive from international justice.” Although Turkey is not part of the International Criminal Court (ICC), Turkish laws are enough to arrest Mr al Bashir when he lands in Istanbul next Monday, she said.

The ICC issued an arrest warrant for Mr al Bashir in March for crimes committed in Sudan’s Darfur region. The Sudanese president visited Turkey twice before the warrant was issued, in January and August 2008. Next Monday, he is expected to take part in a meeting of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference, or OIC, in Istanbul. “For a country on the way to EU membership, this is unacceptable,” Ms Altiparmak said about the invitation to Mr Bashir.

Don't worry Turkey you've no chance of getting into the EU, just go join your little war criminal as you also committed the same crimes in Cyprus and still do, bloody cheek!
Turkey has strengthened its ties with Sudan in recent months. Earlier this year, Sudan lifted visa requirements for Turks and said Turkish investors in the country would be exempt from tax. Mr al Bashir’s expected visit comes shortly after Turkey, the only Muslim member of Nato, raised eyebrows in the West for calling off a joint military exercise with long-time partner Israel while simultaneously boosting ties with Syria and Iran, sworn enemies of Israel.

At least officially, Turkey says all it wants is to strengthen peace and prosperity in the region. During a lecture at a think tank in Ankara this week, Abdullah Gul, the president, listed “democratic values, the rule of law, respect for human rights, transparency, accountability” as his country’s guiding principles. Mr Gul also denied that Turkey was turning away from the West and towards the Muslim east. “Turkey goes east as well as west, north and south, in every direction,” the president said.

But public commitments to democratic principles are undermined when Turkey rolls out the red carpet for a politician like Mr Bashir, Ms Altiparmak said. “How can Erdogan criticise Israel for the Gaza operation and then talk to Bashir? It is a double standard.”

Ms Altiparmak said human rights groups tried to get Mr al Bashir arrested during his latest visit to Turkey last year. Article 13 of the Turkish penal code says crimes like genocide and crimes against humanity can be prosecuted in Turkey even if they have been committed by foreigners or in foreign countries. But the demand to have Mr Bashir arrested was rejected by authorities, Ms Altiparmak said.

It is doubtful whether it will be different this time. “Turkey will not touch al Bashir,” the news channel Haberturk reported yesterday. The daily Radikal newspaper quoted foreign ministry officials in Ankara as saying that although the OIC meeting will take place in Istanbul, Turkey was not the host of the conference and not responsible for who would be invited.

As an example, the officials pointed to the fact that representatives of the Greek republic of Cyprus, a country not recognised by Ankara, had taken part in international meetings on Turkish territory. They also said Turkey was not bound by ICC arrest warrants because it had not ratified the Rome Statute of 2002, which set up the international court.

That line of argument is unlikely to calm critics. Gungor Mengi, editor of the Vatan newspaper, called on non-governmental organisations in Turkey to take action in order to prevent Mr Bashir from travelling to Turkey.

Lit, I would like to ask you to post your jokes in the jokes section.

I can't stop after reading the highlighted above.

My god these people have some real cheek a??

They commit the same crimes as this man yet are trying to arrest him??

F jokers if you as me.

[B25]

Turkey put on defensive as al Bashir’s planned visit invites controversy

Thomas Seibert, Foreign Correspondent

* Last Updated: November 05. 2009 10:52PM UAE / November 5. 2009 6:52PM GMT

http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll ... /1002/NEWS

ISTANBUL // A planned visit by Sudan’s president, Omar al Bashir, to Istanbul next week has put the Turkish government on the defensive, with critics accusing Ankara of undermining its own commitment to the rule of law by hosting a man accused of crimes against humanity.

“We do not want him to come,” Ozlem Altiparmak, co-ordinator of the Coalition for the International Criminal Court, a pressure group made up of 16 Turkish human rights organisations that want Turkey to submit to the court’s jurisdiction, said yesterday. “He is a fugitive from international justice.” Although Turkey is not part of the International Criminal Court (ICC), Turkish laws are enough to arrest Mr al Bashir when he lands in Istanbul next Monday, she said.

The ICC issued an arrest warrant for Mr al Bashir in March for crimes committed in Sudan’s Darfur region. The Sudanese president visited Turkey twice before the warrant was issued, in January and August 2008. Next Monday, he is expected to take part in a meeting of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference, or OIC, in Istanbul. “For a country on the way to EU membership, this is unacceptable,” Ms Altiparmak said about the invitation to Mr Bashir.

Don't worry Turkey you've no chance of getting into the EU, just go join your little war criminal as you also committed the same crimes in Cyprus and still do, bloody cheek!
Turkey has strengthened its ties with Sudan in recent months. Earlier this year, Sudan lifted visa requirements for Turks and said Turkish investors in the country would be exempt from tax. Mr al Bashir’s expected visit comes shortly after Turkey, the only Muslim member of Nato, raised eyebrows in the West for calling off a joint military exercise with long-time partner Israel while simultaneously boosting ties with Syria and Iran, sworn enemies of Israel.

At least officially, Turkey says all it wants is to strengthen peace and prosperity in the region. During a lecture at a think tank in Ankara this week, Abdullah Gul, the president, listed “democratic values, the rule of law, respect for human rights, transparency, accountability” as his country’s guiding principles. Mr Gul also denied that Turkey was turning away from the West and towards the Muslim east. “Turkey goes east as well as west, north and south, in every direction,” the president said.

But public commitments to democratic principles are undermined when Turkey rolls out the red carpet for a politician like Mr Bashir, Ms Altiparmak said. “How can Erdogan criticise Israel for the Gaza operation and then talk to Bashir? It is a double standard.”

Ms Altiparmak said human rights groups tried to get Mr al Bashir arrested during his latest visit to Turkey last year. Article 13 of the Turkish penal code says crimes like genocide and crimes against humanity can be prosecuted in Turkey even if they have been committed by foreigners or in foreign countries. But the demand to have Mr Bashir arrested was rejected by authorities, Ms Altiparmak said.

It is doubtful whether it will be different this time. “Turkey will not touch al Bashir,” the news channel Haberturk reported yesterday. The daily Radikal newspaper quoted foreign ministry officials in Ankara as saying that although the OIC meeting will take place in Istanbul, Turkey was not the host of the conference and not responsible for who would be invited.

As an example, the officials pointed to the fact that representatives of the Greek republic of Cyprus, a country not recognised by Ankara, had taken part in international meetings on Turkish territory. They also said Turkey was not bound by ICC arrest warrants because it had not ratified the Rome Statute of 2002, which set up the international court.

That line of argument is unlikely to calm critics. Gungor Mengi, editor of the Vatan newspaper, called on non-governmental organisations in Turkey to take action in order to prevent Mr Bashir from travelling to Turkey.

Lit, I would like to ask you to post your jokes in the jokes section.

I can't stop after reading the highlighted above.

My god these people have some real cheek a??

They commit the same crimes as this man yet are trying to arrest him??

F jokers if you as me.

[AmericanGC]

Why wouldn't Turkey meet with a genocidal coward like this, Turkey celebrates genocide as brave military victories. Every military victory against women and children and unarmed men is considered a military victory in Turkey. This two countries share the same values and morals: Genocide, Denial, Hypocrisy, Victimizing civilians, Avoiding a real fight, Delusional lies, Suppression, Corrupt and twisted and perverse religious ideals. They should welcome him with open arms.

[insan]

ICC and Africa: selective justice

There must be something more to Africa’s indignation than simply not liking Bashir’s indictment. Perhaps Millius Palayiwa comes close to resolving it when he reveals in his aforementioned article on pp. 16–20 that: “By October 2007, the ICC prosecutor, Luis Moreno-Ocampo, had received 2,889 communications about alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity in at least 139 countries, and yet by March 2009, the prosecutor had opened investigations into just four cases: Uganda, DRCongo, the Central African Republic, and Sudan/Darfur. All of them in Africa! Thirteen public warrants of arrest have been issued, all against Africans.”

http://www.africasia.com/newafrican/na. ... _month=093

International justice should not be open to political abuse and selective standards
by the Muslim Association of Britain, 10 March 2009

"The Muslim Association of Britain (MAB) expresses its profound rejection of the ICC position, regarding its decision to level charges against the Sudanese president, Omar Hassan Al-Bashir, in issuing a warrant for his arrest; a step that reflects mismanagement on the part of the international order in dealing with the Darfur crisis and its repercussions ... "

http://mabonline.net/?p=898

Security Council Resolution

Sudan, the Arab League, the African Union, Russia and China all hope the Security Council will use its prerogative to suspend al-Bashir's indictment in the interest of peace. But three of the five permanent members of the Security Council -- the US, France and Britain -- are likely to oppose any such move.

"It would look pretty bad," says Sluiter, "if the Security Council referred a case to the ICC only to stop prosecution once it reaches the president. An arrest warrant is very important. There are malicious and complex politics being played out in the case."

http://www.spiegel.de/international/wor ... 14,00.html

Why the UN Security Council should stop the ICC’s efforts to indict al-Bashir

The International Criminal Court’s recent fumbled attempt to try Congolese rebel leader Thomas Lubanga Dyilo is the latest addition to a series of reasons why an ICC indictment of Sudanese president Omar Hassan Ahmad al-Bashir would be unwise.

http://jackfruity.blogspot.com/2009/02/save-darfur.html


So, u better put aside ur traditional bad habits of abusing matters to supposedly gain a political point. This bad habit can't contribute even just an inch to improvment of those matters into a positive way neither our virtual realtions on this forum.

[Lit]

Darfur groups press US to get tough with Turkey over Bashir trip

http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/1107/p02s08-usfp.html

President Bashir of Sudan, who faces an international arrest warrant for war crimes in Darfur, is scheduled to arrive Sunday in Turkey for an Islamic conference. Darfur groups want Bashir arrested.

By Howard LaFranchi | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

from the November 7, 2009 edition

Washington - Turkey's plans to host Sudan's President Omar al-Bashir – who faces an international arrest warrant for war crimes in Darfur – at an Islamic conference is intensifying the critical light already shining on Turkey and Sudan.

It is also prompting calls for President Obama to get tough with Turkey and with other international partners, including China, that have disregarded the criminal charges against Mr. Bashir and maintained close economic ties to Sudan.

Bashir is scheduled to arrive Sunday in Turkey for a Monday summit of the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC). The planned visit has prompted the European Union to ask Turkey to revoke its invitation to Bashir, who was indicted in March by the International Criminal Court (ICC) on charges of crimes against humanity and war crimes in Sudan's Darfur region.

Human rights and Darfur advocacy groups in the United States are pressing the Obama administration to encourage Turkey, a US ally in NATO, to arrest Bashir if he carries through with his trip. The Save Darfur Coalition is planning a protest Monday outside the Turkish Embassy in Washington, at which the coalition will try to deliver to the embassy a pair of handcuffs with which to arrest Bashir.

Turkey "should align itself with its European friends" and those in other parts of the world "and dissuade Bashir from coming," says Jerry Fowler, president of the Save Darfur Coalition. "If he insists on coming, Turkey should arrest him."

That seems unlikely to happen. Turkey's president, Abdullah Gul, responded to the EU's request by telling his European neighbors to mind their own business. "What are they interfering for?" Mr. Gul told reporters, according to Reuters. "This is a meeting [of the OIC]; it is not a bilateral meeting."

The tone underscores the rising tensions between Turkey and the EU over Turkey's drawn-out candidacy for EU membership. With the EU sending few encouraging signs to Ankara about its membership prospects, Turkey's government has turned increasingly to other partners for political and economic ties, including Iran and Sudan.

Mr. Obama hailed Turkey as a modern Muslim country and as a bridge between East and West in a speech in Ankara in April. But Turkey has taken other steps recently that have alarmed US officials and others, prompting speculation that Turkey is turning its back on the West.

The Turkish prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, was all smiles during an October trip to Iran, during which he promoted stronger economic ties between the two countries and chided the West for pressuring Tehran on what the Iranians claim is a peaceful nuclear program. Turkey has also thrown its once close ties to Israel into deep freeze over last winter's Israeli offensive into Gaza.

Now some countries and human rights organizations are questioning Turkey's willingness to receive an alleged war criminal on its soil. But the planned visit is also raising fresh concerns about the Obama administration's determination to be tough with Sudan over Darfur.

"President Bashir's trip to Turkey tests the administration's resolve on Sudan," says Mr. Fowler of Save Darfur. "If top officials do nothing, Khartoum will get the message that the US is not serious about multilateral leadership."

The Obama administration recently outlined a new Sudan policy of "carrots and sticks" in which the US would play a leading international role to press Sudan on the dire conditions in Darfur and other parts of the country.

Another test of Obama's Sudan policy, rights groups say, will come later in the month when Obama visits China – another major Khartoum client.

[Lit]

Turkey defends Sudan leader visit

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8347419.stm

Turkish President Abdullah Gul has accused the EU of interfering after Ankara was asked to reconsider an invitation to the president of Sudan.

Omar al-Bashir has been indicted for war crimes by the International Criminal Court (ICC).

But Mr Gul said he was invited to a summit of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC), not for bilateral talks with Turkish officials.

Turkey, which has applied for EU membership, does not recognise the ICC.

It says it has no plans to arrest Mr Bashir, who is due to attend an OIC economic summit in Istanbul on Sunday and Monday.

Turkey insists it is not shifting away from its traditionally close ties to the West.

But the BBC's Jonathan Head, in Istanbul, says the country is certainly choosing some controversial new partnerships.

The visit by the Sudanese president comes fresh on the heels of the Turkish prime minister's groundbreaking state visit to Iran in October, when Recep Tayyip Erdogan declared that country's nuclear programme to be entirely peaceful.

Mr Bashir's visit to Turkey will be his third in the past 18 months, but his first since the ICC arrest warrant was issued in March.

A coalition of Turkish human rights groups is protesting against the visit, our correspondent says.

They have accused the government of double standards for condemning Israel over its actions in Gaza, and then hosting a president who is blamed for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of civilians in Darfur.

[Lit]

Turkey defends invitation to Bashir

By Delphine Strauss in Ankara

Published: November 7 2009 02:00 | Last updated: November 7 2009 02:00

Abdullah Gul, president of Turkey, accused the European Union yesterday of "interfering" by asking Ankara to withdraw an invitation for Omar Hassan al-Bashir, Sudan's indicted president, to attend an Islamic summit in Istanbul.

full article here:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4ff44f0c-cb3c ... abdc0.html

[Lit]

Turkey criticized over Sudan president
By CHRISTOPHER TORCHIA

Associated Press
2009-11-07 03:10 AM

http://www.etaiwannews.com/etn/news_con ... g=eng_news


Turkey should arrest Sudan's president if he visits Istanbul because of an international warrant against him for atrocities in Darfur, human rights groups said Friday.

Turkey, however, has indicated that it would welcome President Omar al-Bashir, who will reportedly arrive in Istanbul on Monday for a meeting of the Organization of Islamic Conference, a bloc of Muslim countries.

"It would be a disgrace for Turkey to offer him safe haven," Amnesty International senior legal adviser Christopher Keith Hall said. Human Rights Watch said Turkey's international image will suffer if it welcomes al-Bashir.

The Hague-based International Criminal Court issued a warrant against al-Bashir in March, accusing him of orchestrating atrocities in Sudan's western Darfur region.

Turkey is not a state party to the court and is not legally bound to arrest al-Bashir. It is a non-permanent member of the U.N. Security Council, which urges states to assist the court.

Turkish authorities have responded to questions about al-Bashir's visit by noting that visitors to the Islamic conference will attend an international event, not a bilateral one.

On Friday, Turkey's Hurriyet newspaper quoted President Abdullah Gul as saying al-Bashir was coming for a "special meeting" and that outside interference in the matter was inappropriate.

Turkey is engaged in a struggling effort to join the European Union, which would oppose a visit by al-Bashir. It is expanding its contacts with other Muslim and regional countries, carving out a foreign policy that is distinct from its Cold War-era loyalty to the West.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, whose country is locked in a dispute with the West over its nuclear activities, is also expected to attend the Islamic forum in Istanbul.

[insan]

yeah.. yeah.. yeah... working for the black gas...