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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:58 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Is wanting a say in our own country wrong or against democracy or freedom? is not wanting to put at risk against democracy or freedom? is wanting to tell you to stop when you are doing something that will effect us more negativly against democracy or freedom?

That’s not just asking for “a say”, it’s asking for “a say plus a bit of the other’s say”!

I’m also VERY weary of Turkish Cypriot intentions to enter as a “community” as opposed to “as citizens” of a democratic republic.

Community based politics is very dirty and thus extremely dangerous! Definitely not what we have in mind for our future… :?


Is it more dangerous than putting our future 100% in the hands of GCs taking into account our history? you are trying to place the risk totally on the TC side thats why a balance is being negotiated and supported by the world. How do you expect us to capitulate to a community we do not trust today? who knows how things will develop in 30 40 years time some of the safeguards and guarantees will hopefully become redeundent when we see that both sides adhere to all the rules as ingrained in a new solution.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:38 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Is wanting a say in our own country wrong or against democracy or freedom? is not wanting to put at risk against democracy or freedom? is wanting to tell you to stop when you are doing something that will effect us more negativly against democracy or freedom?

That’s not just asking for “a say”, it’s asking for “a say plus a bit of the other’s say”!

I’m also VERY weary of Turkish Cypriot intentions to enter as a “community” as opposed to “as citizens” of a democratic republic.

Community based politics is very dirty and thus extremely dangerous! Definitely not what we have in mind for our future… :?


Is it more dangerous than putting our future 100% in the hands of GCs taking into account our history? you are trying to place the risk totally on the TC side thats why a balance is being negotiated and supported by the world. How do you expect us to capitulate to a community we do not trust today? who knows how things will develop in 30 40 years time some of the safeguards and guarantees will hopefully become redeundent when we see that both sides adhere to all the rules as ingrained in a new solution.


I don't think anyone cares for your excuses and fake fears anymore! Certainly the Russians have been involved in Cyprus' affairs long enough to know whether you are telling the truth or lying ... and it looks like such "fears" have received zero consideration because they are foundation-less and irrelevant to any solution based on Interternational Law and UN resolutions. You cannot steal the property of others and demand to make it your own on the pretext of "fear" of the original owners.
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Postby insan » Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:55 pm

Oracle wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Is wanting a say in our own country wrong or against democracy or freedom? is not wanting to put at risk against democracy or freedom? is wanting to tell you to stop when you are doing something that will effect us more negativly against democracy or freedom?

That’s not just asking for “a say”, it’s asking for “a say plus a bit of the other’s say”!

I’m also VERY weary of Turkish Cypriot intentions to enter as a “community” as opposed to “as citizens” of a democratic republic.

Community based politics is very dirty and thus extremely dangerous! Definitely not what we have in mind for our future… :?


Is it more dangerous than putting our future 100% in the hands of GCs taking into account our history? you are trying to place the risk totally on the TC side thats why a balance is being negotiated and supported by the world. How do you expect us to capitulate to a community we do not trust today? who knows how things will develop in 30 40 years time some of the safeguards and guarantees will hopefully become redeundent when we see that both sides adhere to all the rules as ingrained in a new solution.


I don't think anyone cares for your excuses and fake fears anymore! Certainly the Russians have been involved in Cyprus' affairs long enough to know whether you are telling the truth or lying ... and it looks like such "fears" have received zero consideration because they are foundation-less and irrelevant to any solution based on Interternational Law and UN resolutions. You cannot steal the property of others and demand to make it your own on the pretext of "fear" of the original owners.



What Russians have been doing? :lol: :lol: They don't even respect the property rights of their own people so how come...? :lol:

http://www.globalpropertyguide.com/Euro ... ghts-index
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Postby YFred » Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:00 pm

insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Is wanting a say in our own country wrong or against democracy or freedom? is not wanting to put at risk against democracy or freedom? is wanting to tell you to stop when you are doing something that will effect us more negativly against democracy or freedom?

That’s not just asking for “a say”, it’s asking for “a say plus a bit of the other’s say”!

I’m also VERY weary of Turkish Cypriot intentions to enter as a “community” as opposed to “as citizens” of a democratic republic.

Community based politics is very dirty and thus extremely dangerous! Definitely not what we have in mind for our future… :?


Is it more dangerous than putting our future 100% in the hands of GCs taking into account our history? you are trying to place the risk totally on the TC side thats why a balance is being negotiated and supported by the world. How do you expect us to capitulate to a community we do not trust today? who knows how things will develop in 30 40 years time some of the safeguards and guarantees will hopefully become redeundent when we see that both sides adhere to all the rules as ingrained in a new solution.


I don't think anyone cares for your excuses and fake fears anymore! Certainly the Russians have been involved in Cyprus' affairs long enough to know whether you are telling the truth or lying ... and it looks like such "fears" have received zero consideration because they are foundation-less and irrelevant to any solution based on Interternational Law and UN resolutions. You cannot steal the property of others and demand to make it your own on the pretext of "fear" of the original owners.



What Russians have been doing? :lol: :lol: They don't even respect the property rights of their own people so how come...? :lol:

http://www.globalpropertyguide.com/Euro ... ghts-index

Don't forget the Chechens and the Georgians. Russia is in the forefront of International law and its application.
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Postby runaway » Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:20 am

Oracle wrote:
runaway wrote:The final formula should be in the interest of both the Greek Cypriots and the Turkish Cypriots.

From Russia with love :lol: :lol: :lol:


Isn't this what Makarios tried to do? To find a formula which was" in the interests of BOTH the GCs and TCs"?



A christian priest cannot work for the interests of a Muslim society. If this christian priest is south cypriot, then expect bloodshed. Now fuck away grandma.
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Postby Oracle » Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:56 am

runaway wrote:
Oracle wrote:
runaway wrote:The final formula should be in the interest of both the Greek Cypriots and the Turkish Cypriots.

From Russia with love :lol: :lol: :lol:


Isn't this what Makarios tried to do? To find a formula which was" in the interests of BOTH the GCs and TCs"?



A christian priest cannot work for the interests of a Muslim society. If this christian priest is south cypriot, then expect bloodshed. Now fuck away grandma.


Maybe he wasn't working as a priest, but a democratic leader; and whether you are Muslim or not gives you no extra privileges in our country! So, why don't you fuck off back to your Islamic states!
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Postby GeorgeV97qaue » Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:51 am

runaway wrote:
Oracle wrote:
runaway wrote:The final formula should be in the interest of both the Greek Cypriots and the Turkish Cypriots.

From Russia with love :lol: :lol: :lol:


Isn't this what Makarios tried to do? To find a formula which was" in the interests of BOTH the GCs and TCs"?



A christian priest cannot work for the interests of a Muslim society. If this christian priest is south cypriot, then expect bloodshed. Now fuck away grandma.


You are complete fu%king idiot.
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Postby Expatkiwi » Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:43 am

GeorgeV97qaue wrote:
You are complete fu%king idiot.


A lot of people are fu%king idiots. If they weren't, then there wouldn't be any Cyprus Problem. Idiots are great at causing problems, but not so good at solving them.
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Postby runaway » Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:32 am

Oracle wrote:
runaway wrote:
Oracle wrote:
runaway wrote:The final formula should be in the interest of both the Greek Cypriots and the Turkish Cypriots.

From Russia with love :lol: :lol: :lol:


Isn't this what Makarios tried to do? To find a formula which was" in the interests of BOTH the GCs and TCs"?



A christian priest cannot work for the interests of a Muslim society. If this christian priest is south cypriot, then expect bloodshed. Now fuck away grandma.


Maybe he wasn't working as a priest, but a democratic leader; and whether you are Muslim or not gives you no extra privileges in our country! So, why don't you fuck off back to your Islamic states!


democratic leader my ass. Cross of Makarios will never shine in KKTC land, country of the TURKISH Cypriots.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:26 pm

runaway wrote:Cross of Makarios will never shine in KKTC land, country of the TURKISH Cypriots.

Well that's bloody obvious given he's been dead for over 30 years! :lol:
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