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"The final formula should be in the interest of both the Greek Cypriots and the Turkish Cypriots,"

In other words in the interest of CYPRIOTS, not Turkey or Greece!

But here comes the most important part...

...and the international community must play a facilitating role, it cannot impose any prescriptions or formulas, and it cannot impose artificial timeframes,” the Russian Foreign Minister said.

This is the bit that Turkish Cypriots should pay special attention to because it’s what I’ve been telling you (and proving with credible evidence) for years…

…that NOBODY can ever force the (1) recognition, (2) annexation, (3) Taiwanisation, or even (4) Cucumberisation, of Cyprus’ occupied territory!

You are over estimating your international worth..when the big players are ready they will scarifice you for their own benefit...never say never.

And you underestimate international law which thankfully LOCKS countries into behaving themselves or utter chaos would reign supreme!

Tell that to the big guys which you GCs are not. If their is anything to benefit for the big boys they will bypass any laws you wish to throw at them...there are so many examples.

[Get Real!]

"The final formula should be in the interest of both the Greek Cypriots and the Turkish Cypriots,"

In other words in the interest of CYPRIOTS, not Turkey or Greece!

But here comes the most important part...

...and the international community must play a facilitating role, it cannot impose any prescriptions or formulas, and it cannot impose artificial timeframes,” the Russian Foreign Minister said.

This is the bit that Turkish Cypriots should pay special attention to because it’s what I’ve been telling you (and proving with credible evidence) for years…

…that NOBODY can ever force the (1) recognition, (2) annexation, (3) Taiwanisation, or even (4) Cucumberisation, of Cyprus’ occupied territory!

... but they have some methods that can "democratically" force u to feel the need of voluntary acceptance at least some of the options u have put forth above...

That there are some stupid politicians that can fall for Anglo-American tricks is an old story, but can they also get past the PEOPLE?

Democratic referendums will always have the final word in such important issues and that’s when myself, and hundreds of others who cannot be fooled, will work hard to inform the public of what they’re getting into.

[Get Real!]

You are over estimating your international worth..when the big players are ready they will scarifice you for their own benefit...never say never.

That is a Turkish Cypriot speaking without a trace of irony.

Our might is Turkeys support and understanding.

A viable direction is what the Turkish Cypriots need and not “support & understanding”! You are not in an old people’s home so look for a bright and prosperous future for your youth among the Greek Cypriots who now know the way. Put your trust in a people that have made it against all odds and forget the past mistakes.

[Viewpoint]

You are over estimating your international worth..when the big players are ready they will scarifice you for their own benefit...never say never.

That is a Turkish Cypriot speaking without a trace of irony.

Our might is Turkeys support and understanding.

A viable direction is what the Turkish Cypriots need and not “support & understanding”! You are not in an old people’s home so look for a bright and prosperous future for your youth among the Greek Cypriots who now know the way. Put your trust in a people that have made it against all odds and forget the past mistakes.

This is only viable with safeguards and guarantees as people that have forgotten thier past mistakes have obviously not learnt enough so as not to repeat them in future. This is why we are at the negotiating table to ensure both sides know exactly how to act in a future union. Otherwise the Turkish root is 1000 times more preferred than becoming a minority in a GC state run by GCs.

[Get Real!]

You are over estimating your international worth..when the big players are ready they will scarifice you for their own benefit...never say never.

That is a Turkish Cypriot speaking without a trace of irony.

Our might is Turkeys support and understanding.

A viable direction is what the Turkish Cypriots need and not “support & understanding”! You are not in an old people’s home so look for a bright and prosperous future for your youth among the Greek Cypriots who now know the way. Put your trust in a people that have made it against all odds and forget the past mistakes.

This is only viable with safeguards and guarantees as people that have forgotten thier past mistakes have obviously not learnt enough so as not to repeat them in future. This is why we are at the negotiating table to ensure both sides know exactly how to act in a future union. Otherwise the Turkish root is 1000 times more preferred than becoming a minority in a GC state run by GCs.

I was going to correct you with "route" but then I thought he's not wrong!

[Viewpoint]

You are over estimating your international worth..when the big players are ready they will scarifice you for their own benefit...never say never.

That is a Turkish Cypriot speaking without a trace of irony.

Our might is Turkeys support and understanding.

A viable direction is what the Turkish Cypriots need and not “support & understanding”! You are not in an old people’s home so look for a bright and prosperous future for your youth among the Greek Cypriots who now know the way. Put your trust in a people that have made it against all odds and forget the past mistakes.

This is only viable with safeguards and guarantees as people that have forgotten thier past mistakes have obviously not learnt enough so as not to repeat them in future. This is why we are at the negotiating table to ensure both sides know exactly how to act in a future union. Otherwise the Turkish root is 1000 times more preferred than becoming a minority in a GC state run by GCs.

I was going to correct you with "route" but then I thought he's not wrong!

We accept the realities before us now try addressing the content of my post for a change.

[Get Real!]

You are over estimating your international worth..when the big players are ready they will scarifice you for their own benefit...never say never.

That is a Turkish Cypriot speaking without a trace of irony.

Our might is Turkeys support and understanding.

A viable direction is what the Turkish Cypriots need and not “support & understanding”! You are not in an old people’s home so look for a bright and prosperous future for your youth among the Greek Cypriots who now know the way. Put your trust in a people that have made it against all odds and forget the past mistakes.

This is only viable with safeguards and guarantees as people that have forgotten thier past mistakes have obviously not learnt enough so as not to repeat them in future. This is why we are at the negotiating table to ensure both sides know exactly how to act in a future union. Otherwise the Turkish root is 1000 times more preferred than becoming a minority in a GC state run by GCs.

I was going to correct you with "route" but then I thought he's not wrong!

We accept the realities before us now try addressing the content of my post for a change.

Well, what you want equates to stepping all over the rights of Greek Cypriots (80%) to facilitate special privileges for the Turkish Cypriots (18%) so it’s a dual stab to freedom & Democracy and I don’t know who is going to vote in favor of that other than the TCs…

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Is wanting a say in our own country wrong or against democracy or freedom? is not wanting to put at risk against democracy or freedom? is wanting to tell you to stop when you are doing something that will effect us more negativly against democracy or freedom?

[Expatkiwi]

GR,

If I thought that there would be a remote chance of your vision for Cyprus being realized, I would totally support it! But we got to look at the cold facts: International Law doesn't mean squat to the big nations, and Cyprus' position in the Eastern Mediterranian means that it will never be left alone by outsiders. Idealism aside, what can realistically be done?

[Get Real!]

Is wanting a say in our own country wrong or against democracy or freedom? is not wanting to put at risk against democracy or freedom? is wanting to tell you to stop when you are doing something that will effect us more negativly against democracy or freedom?

That’s not just asking for “a say”, it’s asking for “a say plus a bit of the other’s say”!

I’m also VERY weary of Turkish Cypriot intentions to enter as a “community” as opposed to “as citizens” of a democratic republic.

Community based politics is very dirty and thus extremely dangerous! Definitely not what we have in mind for our future…